liberty_222
psychotic
- Nov 28, 2021
- 361
I think you quoted the wrong person because they just said that this is the right place for the discussion of the topic at hand
Most people who ctb have doubts about it, there are doubts all over this site- it's a tough decision, and it's often tough for people to tell if it's the right decision.
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Considering the audacity that the government thinks giving that useless number will help with even veterans who have ptsd and are suicidal it's ridiculous. Like none of their solutions help whatsoever.
Simba
Missunderstood Potato
- Dec 9, 2018
- 751
The last one apparently is a psychiatrist..
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eternalmelancholy
waiting for the bus
- Mar 24, 2021
- 1,169
How is this website 'encouraging' suicide? This is just an excuse to shut down free speech. We are not the bad guys here. We are just desperate people looking for a way out.
liberty_222
psychotic
- Nov 28, 2021
- 361
Simba
Missunderstood Potato
- Dec 9, 2018
- 751
The site will become harder to find than others via search engines. It will go further underground and be buried in detritus but I think it will stay up for now. That said, mirrors should be implimented asap and it would be wise to get and onion site started at the least. We need somewhere to go if shit hits the fan suddenly.
The numbers they talk of are so low in comparison to the amount of suicides that don't likely ever find this site. Let bare in mind also that that their are other suicide forums. They however charge a fee for their info and memberships and have the trappings of being shrewdly businesslike in their actions by comaprrison to this site. We don't encourage dying people to leave money too us in their will. Nore do we create a paywall to acess the sources many come in search of.
The amount of disgusting sites on the internet is insane. Even porn has people being strangled for like 10mins. Fake as it is, it's teaching some weird shit to vulnerable minds. As is pop culture. Like, go pump a load of shit into your lips and ass, act like a twat, hold yourself in high esteem regardless of you actions because you're 'perfect' and dont listen to haters. Instead consider yourself wonderful without any real self reflection and certainly not honest self reflection and that's just to touch on the tip of an ever growing iceberg.
We're small fry in the laws remit. If the media creates a blizzard of it all it may turn harmful to forum short term but it will take some work to take it down depending on where the site is hosted. Some opsec needs reviewing behind the scenes I think but it would be good if admin could update us somehow to put our minds at ease or give us the low down on what to expect.
The numbers they talk of are so low in comparison to the amount of suicides that don't likely ever find this site. Let bare in mind also that that their are other suicide forums. They however charge a fee for their info and memberships and have the trappings of being shrewdly businesslike in their actions by comaprrison to this site. We don't encourage dying people to leave money too us in their will. Nore do we create a paywall to acess the sources many come in search of.
The amount of disgusting sites on the internet is insane. Even porn has people being strangled for like 10mins. Fake as it is, it's teaching some weird shit to vulnerable minds. As is pop culture. Like, go pump a load of shit into your lips and ass, act like a twat, hold yourself in high esteem regardless of you actions because you're 'perfect' and dont listen to haters. Instead consider yourself wonderful without any real self reflection and certainly not honest self reflection and that's just to touch on the tip of an ever growing iceberg.
We're small fry in the laws remit. If the media creates a blizzard of it all it may turn harmful to forum short term but it will take some work to take it down depending on where the site is hosted. Some opsec needs reviewing behind the scenes I think but it would be good if admin could update us somehow to put our minds at ease or give us the low down on what to expect.
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liberty_222
psychotic
- Nov 28, 2021
- 361
Grieving my foot. She can't even respect her son's decision to ctb. Dragging his soul everywhere for her own selfish motives. Why do mothers always believe someone else is involved? Why can't they fucking realise that they screwed up??
eternalmelancholy
waiting for the bus
- Mar 24, 2021
- 1,169
The internet is filled with disgusting shit and yet talking about suicide is taboo even amongst all that filth. You can't even express your desire to die online without being shunned into a far corner of the internet. Talk about this stuff in real life and you will find yourself forcibly detained 'for your own good'. Life is one sick joke.
Lost Magic
Illuminated
- May 5, 2020
- 3,142
Yep, I think it is time to have that backup site made ASAP. This isn't just about defending our own autonomy this is about defending our right to talk about taboo subjects like suicide freely. The more they push us away, the more desperate we will become. Fuck Politicians, Fuck the PC Brigade and Fuck Big Brother.
The USG doesn't fall under the influence of NYT unlike in
The Bee Gees song.
Trust me , this site has been on the radar for far longer than that
The Bee Gees song.
Trust me , this site has been on the radar for far longer than that
A king (the government) has to have peasants (the population) to rule over in order to be powerful, so it seems like they just want us to keep living with no regard for our circumstances, just to continue having us as tax cattle. They are truly authoritarian.
If only they were more understanding of the fact that there may be as many reasons for not wanting to contiue to live, as there are people on this planet, and the people who criticize this community seem to refuse to blame themselves for their relatives' passing - it's always someone else's fault....
In the end
We may feel a strong sense of depression, - but our words will be interpreted as aggression
We may have broken our bones - but they refuse to hear our tones
We may seek love - but our cries they away shove
We may suffer from PTSD - but ignored we may be
We may be the victim of trauma - but they don't want to hear our drama
We may wish to express ourselves - but they stow away our complaints on dusty shelves
If only they were more understanding of the fact that there may be as many reasons for not wanting to contiue to live, as there are people on this planet, and the people who criticize this community seem to refuse to blame themselves for their relatives' passing - it's always someone else's fault....
In the end
We may feel a strong sense of depression, - but our words will be interpreted as aggression
We may have broken our bones - but they refuse to hear our tones
We may seek love - but our cries they away shove
We may suffer from PTSD - but ignored we may be
We may be the victim of trauma - but they don't want to hear our drama
We may wish to express ourselves - but they stow away our complaints on dusty shelves
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cambrai33
Traveller
- Nov 3, 2021
- 386
Invalidating someone's grief is a pretty low blow
We may not agree with what she's doing or the way she's representing what happens here but to say she isn't grieving seems harsh, I didn't know her son or what contribution she may have had in his decision to ctb, you may know more than me but how did she screw up?
Rational man
Enlightened
- Oct 19, 2021
- 1,451
I have other sites to visit to discuss assisted dying but It would be a sad day to see this site closed. I've met some wonderful souls here. People with integrity, with a deep sense of understanding and compassion. People who suffer so much. Very different to the coffee sipping word crunchers.
Ch92921
The call of the void
- Dec 29, 2018
- 909
liberty_222
psychotic
- Nov 28, 2021
- 361
Believing that her son was killed rather than ctb is definitely screwing up. I get mothers like her. My mother is like that. They're narcissistic and controlling. They don't understand how they contribute to their children's mental health and when they ctb they are BOUND to find conspiracy theories. My mom finds new conspiracy theories everyday and she is fed by other such people who refuse to do anything about the mental health system but want to blame everyone around them.
I'm so clueless. When people say look for it on the dark web, where is that or how do I get there? And how is the dark web safer than a regular website? I'm seriously clueless.
catdaddy2601
Member
- Aug 6, 2021
- 89
Same ... If I'm honest, SS has helped me mentally keep going knowing that the resources are there if I need to go... If this resource is taken away, I will defo lose the plot
cambrai33
Traveller
- Nov 3, 2021
- 386
I completely agree about the mental health system, it is a sticking plaster on a gaping wound. The current mental state of all around me has dropped (it could be me making them depressed) due to COVID and lockdowns, loss of control and freedom, I think most importantly lack of hope.
Anyway I respect how you feel about this and we probably differ in our view which is fine.
I don't comment on goodbye threads unless I know someone but wish you well however things pan out
LilBird
Member
- Mar 16, 2020
- 94
Mashedout
Student
- Nov 25, 2020
- 126
Not surprising. It's against the interests of the powers that be for the wage slaves to check out early out of their servitude. The many must suffer so the few can prosper. How else with they live their lives of luxury...
WrongPlaceWrongTime
Better never to have been
- Jul 4, 2021
- 695
If Pirate Bay can evade the government's grasp for years, we can too.
It is sad that out of all the problems in the world, the US government feels the need to go after a small internet forum that isn't even doing anything illegal.
It is sad that out of all the problems in the world, the US government feels the need to go after a small internet forum that isn't even doing anything illegal.
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Ch92921
The call of the void
- Dec 29, 2018
- 909
RainAndSadness
Administrator
- Jun 12, 2018
- 2,144
I don't even know where to start with this one. What is she talking about? Minors aren't tolerated at all. They're actually banned on sight - that's a very strict policy and we're enforcing this rule without exception. It's amazing how confidently she spreads her lies now after the NYT affirmed her willfully ignorant narrative about this forum. I wonder if she really believes this is going her way. Her posts are absurd on so many levels.
Literally nobody has encouraged members to attack grieving parents either. You won't find one single post of staff members doing that. It's also interesting how she twist the actual situation considering her entire social media presence was created to smear and slander us into oblivion. Who is attacking who exactly? Seriously though, considering her purposely misleading narrative she shouldn't be surprised if members of this community use their voice to counter her lies - voices which she ignored and walked over for the last few years by the way. I think the outrage of this community is justified considering we've been dragged through the dirt for the last ~3 years.
Here is the deal. It's not that complicated. We are consenting and autonomous adults. We have a right to discuss strongly neglected human rights such as the right to die - an issue that's been brushed under the rug for decades despite the public opinion which supports legislation to change the current situation in many countries all around the world by the way. And that's one part of the forum. Another important part of this forum is the overhelming support and compassion that struggling people experience in this community, myself included. There is a reason why people want to use this forum, it gives them a space to discuss subjects that are considered taboo out there. It's why the NYT article has led so many new members to this forum in the first place. Every time you mention that there is a place out there, in the distant corners of the internet, that allows people to talk about deeply personal struggles without censorship and the moralising undertone, a platform that recognises individual autonomy and the right to decide what happens with your own life (which you essentially treat like the forbidden fruit of the 21th century by the way) you will increase the member count of this forum - deal with it. You can't ban these ideas. And all members that engage in this community do so voluntarily. There is no encouragement, there is no hidden agenda, there is no profiting, this is about principles. And as others already pointed out in this thread, this community and the discussions related to this website deserve to exist. You're not gonna silence us, period.
Sherri
Archangel
- Sep 28, 2020
- 13,794
This woman has a big imagination, and she hates us so much. Wise words like always Rain. Providing sellers, lol.
Was I the only one who saw her limousine live interview about her was her page was open. She was all dolled up, make up, hair done. Looked like a congress woman .lol this was prob a year ago. Was hilarious. Her and the beard guy.
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EraseRewind
Circling the drain
- May 13, 2020
- 225
Sometimes I have to laugh at the comments by those who oppose any form of pro choice website, they really do believe that if they take away the support resource then the problem of suicide will simply disappear.
I'd like to see some real progress on the elimination of suicide rather than sweeping forums that aren't scared to offer a genuine platform for discussion under the carpet. Banning the forums will not eliminate the problem.
If you have lost a loved one to suicide it must be devastating, but I can tell you that same devastation is true for those of us who suffer with the crippling loneliness of depression and mental illness that bring us here in the first place. Here we can discuss with others who understand and don't judge.
I for one can tell you that without this site I would not be here today and my family would have suffered the loss of their son/husband. Before you condemn please just think why people are here and how many would have departed this world without the ability to vent, rant or just feel connected.
I won't beg for SS but I will plead it's case from my experience, when you are isolated by society because you don't fit the norm, a place such as this is as necessary as any support group I've needed.
I'd like to see some real progress on the elimination of suicide rather than sweeping forums that aren't scared to offer a genuine platform for discussion under the carpet. Banning the forums will not eliminate the problem.
If you have lost a loved one to suicide it must be devastating, but I can tell you that same devastation is true for those of us who suffer with the crippling loneliness of depression and mental illness that bring us here in the first place. Here we can discuss with others who understand and don't judge.
I for one can tell you that without this site I would not be here today and my family would have suffered the loss of their son/husband. Before you condemn please just think why people are here and how many would have departed this world without the ability to vent, rant or just feel connected.
I won't beg for SS but I will plead it's case from my experience, when you are isolated by society because you don't fit the norm, a place such as this is as necessary as any support group I've needed.
Quinlor
The stranger
- Feb 21, 2019
- 1,058
Folks, the site is still working let's not succumb to paranoia
Sherri
Archangel
- Sep 28, 2020
- 13,794
I sincerely hope she doesn't know Marquis is gone.
Not paranoia,is just the fixers telling lies and absurd things like always.
Ch92921
The call of the void
- Dec 29, 2018
- 909
No really earlier I could just typ sanctioned suicide in google. Now I have to typ the full adress above.
Google doesnt want this site to show anymore!