the world is getting more right wing.

[Pessimist]

i stand by my initial comment i am afraid, nothing i initially said is wrong and can easily be found on wikipedia if you can be bothered to read up on modern China in the last 30 years

According to ProleWiki (the communist version of Wikipedia), China is a "one of only five socialist states in the world today".

Sweden, for example, is much closer to those socialist standards than any of the states listed to be "communist", and yet they don't call themselves like that.

Sweden is very social democratic, but has nothing to do with Marxism–Leninism.

 

[unabletocope]

According to ProleWiki (the communist version of Wikipedia), China is a "one of only five socialist states in ....

don't claim to be an expert on China as i have a lot on my plate in life but it is a country that has changed since the 70s, kind of how Russia changed when the USSR collapsed, China embraced capitalism more openly in the 90s and has been embracing it more and more to the point where calling it a communist country is outdated, it's more of a hybrid of communism and capitalism these days than just a pure communist country

 

[Chinaski]

Just looked up "capitalism" on Wikipedia, sounds bad, idk

 

[Pessimist]

don't claim to be an expert on China as i have a lot on my plate in life but it is a country that has changed since the 70s, kind of how Russia changed when the USSR collapsed, China embraced capitalism more openly in the 90s and has been embracing it more and more to the point where calling it a communist country is outdated, it's more of a hybrid of communism and capitalism these days than just a pure communist country

Just because Chinese policy no longer causes a famine that kills 50 million people in three years, doesn't make it capitalist.

Just looked up "capitalism" on Wikipedia, sounds bad, idk

Communism doesn't sound great either.

Cannibalism under Communism – The Skeptical Libertarian

blog.skepticallibertarian.com

 

[unabletocope]

Just because Chinese policy no longer causes a famine that kills 50 million people in three years, doesn't make it capitalist.

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how many foreign and illegal wars have western capitalist countries waged and invaded to impose their versions of ideology and democracy on, killing millions as they go? China is an authoritarian state which confuses legitimate discussion of ideology, how many people die, kill themselves on the back of modern work culture? its worth pointing out that i am not a communist but neither am i saying pure free market capitalism has improved the world or makes life work, people are caught up in free market capitalism now, we are literally on the brink of going for it beyond the 1980s and i don't know, i think it could cause a fucking world war if we're not careful, for all it's faults i don't recall world wars breaking out on the back of communism

 

[Pessimist]

how many foreign and illegal wars have western capitalist countries waged and invaded to impose their versions of ideology and democracy on, killing millions as they go?

This isn't directly related to economic systems, unlike famines under communist regimes. If you're talking about crimes in general, then some of the most horrific crimes have occured under communist regimes as well: the Great Purge in the Soviet Union, the Cultural Revolution in China, the Cambodian genocide in Kampuchea, etc.

 

[unabletocope]

This isn't directly related to economic systems, unlike famines under communist regimes. If you're talking about crimes in general, then some of the most horrific crimes have occured under communist regimes as well: the Great Purge in the Soviet Union, the Cultural Revolution in China, the Cambodian genocide in Kampuchea, etc.

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you used the term chinese policy and i'm running with that, economic policy and ideology can go hand in hand and both can be imposed as a form of authoritarianism or a way of destroying a democracy or killing millions regardless of whether its communism or capitalism, China is generally a communist country and i do accept that but a famine, while terrible and unimaginable, isn't as damaging as a world war and you know which ideology tends to push for world wars? capitalism

 

[Pessimist]

you used the term chinese policy and i'm running with that, economic policy and ideology can go hand in hand and both can be imposed as a form of authoritarianism or a way of destroying a democracy or killing millions regardless of whether its communism or capitalism, China is generally a communist country and i do accept that but a famine, while terrible and unimaginable, isn't as damaging as a world war and you know which ideology tends to push for world wars? capitalism

Capitalism can really suck sometimes, but I hate the left-wing populist idea idea that capitalism is the most abhorrent thing while communism is acceptable. National Socialists also hated capitalism, so the deadliest ideologies are actually anti-capitalist.

 

[unabletocope]

Capitalism can really suck sometimes, but I hate the left-wing populist idea idea that capitalism is the most abhorrent thing while communism is acceptable. National Socialists also hated capitalism, so the deadliest ideologies are actually anti-capitalist.

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i never said capitalism is abhorrent, just pointing out it's flaws. you mean the nazis, who hated communism?

 

[Placo]

UK, US, France, Italy, Israel, Russia. i tend not to make political comments on here but the world is going more and more right wing and i genuinely wonder how it is going to play out, things will continue to get more dangerous i guess

Modi was also re-elected in India and soon there will be a far-right government in France too. In the American elections I believe Trump will win so the USA will also turn to the right.

The only consolation for the global left recently was the fact that the Bolivian coup was overturned, the European elections demonstrated a clear turn to the right even if the left still claims victory, I don't know why.

For us it's not a good thing because we know that the right is prolife, therefore against abortion and assisted suicide, I wouldn't be surprised if we went back to criminalizing suicide itself.

 

[Pessimist]

you mean the nazis, who hated communism?

Nazis and communists hate each other, but both are anti-capitalists for different reasons. Communists are responsible for more murder, by the way. At the end of the day, these are two sides of the same totalitarian coin.

 

[unabletocope]

Nazis and communists hate each other, but both are anti-capitalists for different reasons. Communists are responsible for more murder, by the way. At the end of the day, these are two sides of the same totalitarian coin.

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the nazis were keen on capitalism more than communism, why else do you think they are known as right wing

 

[Chinaski]

the nazis were keen on capitalism more than communism, why else do you think they are known as right wing

*Wikipedia link pointing out how the nazis were actually called National Socialists don't you know, checkmate fucko!!!!* incoming in 5...4...3...

 

[sensitiveguy]

dangerous

Wife them up

Pussies


This is genuinely the reason why.