The USA is such a fucked up country and "experts" wonder why suicides have gone up

[Wayfaerer]

Saying they suicide more doesn't mean they have a worse life. There are lot of factors that contribute to successful suicide. Making more money makes people pay more taxes until they hit that sweet spot where people make so much money that people get out of paying taxes.

There is nothing stopping someone from getting educated and working. You need to be educated or trained in order to make it. Minimum wage McShit jobs and the like were never intended for fully grown adults. There is no "glass ceiling" in either the public or private sector anymore and to be successful it doesn't matter whether you're brown or female or gay, institutions do not discriminate. White people are just used as a convenient scapegoat for people's problems and as a way for the media can make money.

 

[VivaldiBR]

Comparative analysis of death by suicide in Brazil and in the United States: descriptive, cross-sectional time series study

ABSTRACT CONTEXT AND OBJECTIVE: The World Health Organization recognizes suicide as a public...

www.scielo.br

Based on the fact that Brazil and the US have converging Gini coefficients, with reduction of inequality in Brazil and slightly increased inequality in the US, this study hypothesized that this reduction of income inequality would extend to reduction of suicide rates. However, despite convergent Gini coefficients, suicide rates are growing in both countries. The supposition that reduction of income inequality would be accompanied by reduction of suicide rates was not verified.

I think cultural factors about "success" and "failure", and not necessarily inequality, as this article shows. People do not see inequality. They experience it.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

A portion of the population being more successful doesn't mean the other portions of the population are more happy or try less. It just means that one portion is more successful.

Then it's not true that life is easier for white men as a group, regardless of class, than it is for other groups. Fun fact: the highest paid CEO in America is an Indian, the third one an Asian woman: https://aflcio.org/paywatch/highest-paid-ceos

 

[VivaldiBR]

There is nothing stopping someone from getting educated and working. You need to be educated or trained in order to make it. Minimum wage McShit jobs and the like were never intended for fully grown adults. There is no "glass ceiling" in either the public or private sector anymore and to be successful it doesn't matter whether you're brown or female or gay, institutions do not discriminate. White people are just used as a convenient scapegoat for people's problems and as a way for the media can make money.

Yes, white men are killed asphyxiated by the police.

This vague speech of meritocracy in countries like Brazil and the USA is a joke. You don't live in Scandinavia where the rich and the poor get the same education.

 

[Meditation guide]

We are being taxed to death in the U.S. and it takes at least an income of $50,000 for minimum subsistence living.

A single person earning $50,000 only has $40,000 left after paying taxes which is barely enough to live on based on the insane rise in housing costs and food costs. It is hard to keep a roof over one's head on only $40,000 a year.

If you want to see why suicide rates are climbing just look at the cost of housing.

 

[Ghost2211]

Then it's not true that life is easier for white men as a group, regardless of class, than it is for other groups. Fun fact: the highest paid CEO in America is an Indian, the third one an Asian woman: https://aflcio.org/paywatch/highest-paid-ceos

Focusing on the small portion of successful population doesn't reflect on how the average person lives.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Yes, white men are killed asphyxiated by the police.

This vague speech of meritocracy in countries like Brazil and the USA is a joke. You don't live in Scandinavia where the rich and the poor get the same education.

More white men are killed by the police than black men: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Focusing on the small portion of successful population doesn't reflect on how the average person lives.

So you admit that your focusing on a small minority of white men who are wealthy does not reflect on how the rest of white men live?

Btw nobody rioted or gave a damn about Daniel Shaver's death: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver American cops are trigger happy, regardless of the race of their victims.

 

[Wayfaerer]

Yes, white men are killed asphyxiated by the police.

This vague speech of meritocracy in countries like Brazil and the USA is a joke. You don't live in Scandinavia where the rich and the poor get the same education.

These situations wouldn't occur if they wouldn't stop resisting arrest. What that cop did was standard procedure and because of floyd's chronic drug abuse, he had a weak heart which the cop did not know about. As well white men are more often shot by police than black men.

 

[Ghost2211]

So you admit that your focusing on a small minority of white men who are wealthy does not reflect on how the rest of white men live?

I never said any of that. You up guys went down that path. There are many elements of quality of life. You all just only saw money. So, no.

 

[Wayfaerer]

Focusing on the small portion of successful population doesn't reflect on how the average person lives.

So you admit that focusing on a small proportion of white people who have "made it" is also false?

 

[Ghost2211]

So you admit that focusing on a small proportion of white people who have "made it" is also false?

You guys brought up that portion as your examples, not me.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

You guys brought up that portion as your examples, not me.

You said that white men have it easier than women and brown people.

 

[Ghost2211]

You said that white men have it easier than women and brown people.

Easier doesn't mean they have it good. I get you're itching for a debate. I'm clearly not taking the bait

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

These situations wouldn't occur if they wouldn't stop resisting arrest. What that cop did was standard procedure and because of floyd's chronic drug abuse, he had a weak heart which the cop did not know about. As well white men are more often shot by police than black men.

Nobody burned their cities down for Justine Damond. If she was black, we know how things would have played out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond

 

[Wayfaerer]

You guys brought up that portion as your examples, not me.

Well let's see...

Making more money makes people pay more taxes until they hit that sweet spot where people make so much money that people get out of paying taxes.

I think you were the one who made that argument.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Easier doesn't mean they have it good. I get you're itching for a debate. I'm clearly not taking the bait

When you post something on a public forum, you should expect that your statements are going to be challenged and not accepted as an absolute truth. I respect that you do not want to debate further.

 

[Wayfaerer]

Nobody burned their cities down for Justine Damond. If she was black, we know how things would have played out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond

Of course you wouldn't hear about that, that goes against the media (liberal IDpol) narrative.

 

[VivaldiBR]

More white men are killed by the police than black men: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Of course, in US, black people are 10% of population.

In Brazil, we can see this reality. Black People are 50%-55%.

Brazil: 80% Killed by Police in Rio de Janeiro in 2019 Were Black

Eighty percent of those killed by police in Rio de Janeiro in the first half of 2019 were Black and Brown, according to a survey.

www.telesurenglish.net

 

[Wayfaerer]

Of course, in US, black people are 10% of population.

They also commit a disproportional amount of crime. Do you acknowledge that as well?

Table 21

ucr.fbi.gov

 

[Smellanie]

Y'all we're all suicidal here is it that hard to believe that all countries are kinda shit? Usa is not the worst country but it has many many problems and you're perfectly reasonable to hate it here. Stop gatekeeping sadness. Oh I'm sorry rule change unless you're an orphan who is starving and is beaten within an inch of your life daily, have every known debilitating disease, and you work 30 hours a day you're not allowed to be suicidal anymore, delete your account now.

 

[Wayfaerer]

Btw nobody rioted or gave a damn about Daniel Shaver's death: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver American cops are trigger happy, regardless of the race of their victims.

I remember seeing the bodycam video of that when it happened. It's such a sad story, it makes it really hard to sympathize with the police.

 

[VivaldiBR]

They also commit a disproportional amount of crime. Do you acknowledge that as well?

Where i saw this exactly same speech? Oh, yes. From AMERICAN HISTORY X.
And from KKK too.

Have you ever heard of dark figure of crime? In criminal selectivity? The penal system works more against blacks and hispanics than against whites. It is a structural state policy. It is a racist structural choice.

Whites commit even more crimes (against the financial and tax systems or corporate crimes and corruption), but they rarely reach state agencies. The same is true in Brazil. Two highly racist countries, each with its own particularities. Of course, both had slavery.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Where i saw this exactly same speech? Oh, yes. From AMERICAN HISTORY X.
And from KKK too.

The truth is the truth, regardless who tells it.

Have you ever heard of hidden figures? In criminal selectivity? The penal system works more against blacks and hispanics than against whites. It is a structural state policy. It is a racist structural choice.

Do you have any evidence that this is the case?

 

[Wayfaerer]

Where i saw this exactly same speech? Oh, yes. From AMERICAN HISTORY X.
And from KKK too.

Because it's true and coincidentally it also fits their agenda. Of course they would use statistics that just so happen to align with their view, anyone would. I've never seen that movie btw.

Have you ever heard of hidden figures? In criminal selectivity? The penal system works more against blacks and hispanics than against whites. It is a structural state policy. It is a racist structural choice.

Oh really, how is that so? I mean on a national level, not local. If they let white people get away with crime, then those are arrests that they're not making. The state doesn't give a ratfuck about white people, they only care about M-O-N-E-Y. It would make no economic sense at all for the police to let off white criminals when they can benefit from arresting them. As far as these high-profile cases of black men dying by police, all they have to do is to cooporate with the authorities and these police killings would shrink substantially. I'm not saying a black person is never unfairly killed by police because that certainly happens but it doesn't happen as often as the media portrays. For the vast majority of the cases reported by the news, they either tried to fight the police, run away, or reach for a gun.

Whites commit even more crimes (against the financial and tax systems or corporate crimes and corruption), but they rarely reach state agencies. The same is true in Brazil. Two highly racist countries, each with its own particularities. Of course, both had slavery.

Well that's white-collar crime and a different beast all together.

 

[VivaldiBR]

The truth is the truth, regardless who tells it.
Do you have any evidence that this is the case?

It is not the truth when only a small proportion of crimes reach state agencies. Most of these are precisely because the State makes a choice to monitor and punish almost exclusively blacks and the poor.

This book, as well as several others on criminology, deal with these subjects.

Amazon.com.br

 

[Nyxtus]

More white men are killed by the police than black men: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

So you admit that your focusing on a small minority of white men who are wealthy does not reflect on how the rest of white men live?

Btw nobody rioted or gave a damn about Daniel Shaver's death: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver American cops are trigger happy, regardless of the race of their victims.

Dallas Police Bodycam Footage Reveals Officers Killed Tony Timpa, A Man With Mental Illness Who Called Them for Help - Fair360

Recently-released bodycam footage revealed the Dallas police that were supposed to be there to help Tony Timpa, who had mental illness, killed him.

www.diversityinc.com

It's not just him. In this video, there's a guy who called the police ON HIS SELF. He suffered from schizophrenia and knew he was about to have a mental breakdown, so he pre-emptively called the police on himself after he told them of the situation. They kill him, and they LAUGH while doing so while making jokes about it. You don't hear a lot of these stories because they don't fit the agendas of the people trying to push certain political policies into place, and it doesn't fit or support their narrative, and that's so fucking sad for people like Daniel Shaver or Tony Timpa.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

It is not the truth when only a small proportion of crimes reach state agencies. Most of these are precisely because the State makes a choice to monitor and punish almost exclusively blacks and the poor.

This book, as well as several others on criminology, deal with these subjects.

Amazon.com.br

Are you trying to say that crimes the poor whites commit do not reach state agencies? How so? State makes a choice to monitor and punish only blacks and the poor? Really? Maybe blacks and the poor commit more crimes, hence they get arrested more?

 

[Wayfaerer]

It is not the truth when only a small proportion of crimes reach state agencies. Most of these are precisely because the State makes a choice to monitor and punish almost exclusively blacks and the poor.

This book, as well as several others on criminology, deal with these subjects.

Amazon.com.br

Okay but where are the hard stats? And don't say there aren't any because whitey's gestapo is hiding them all from the public because it doesn't work that way.

 

[Symbiote]

Poverty makes people desperate regardless of race. They're willing to do anything they can to survive if it means doing something illegal.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Dallas Police Bodycam Footage Reveals Officers Killed Tony Timpa, A Man With Mental Illness Who Called Them for Help - Fair360

Recently-released bodycam footage revealed the Dallas police that were supposed to be there to help Tony Timpa, who had mental illness, killed him.

www.diversityinc.com

It's not just him. In this video, there's a guy who called the police ON HIS SELF. He suffered from schizophrenia and knew he was about to have a mental breakdown, so he pre-emptively called the police on himself after he told them of the situation. They kill him, and they LAUGH while doing so while making jokes about it. You don't hear a lot of these stories because they don't fit the agendas of the people trying to push certain political policies into place, and it doesn't fit or support their narrative, and that's so fucking sad for people like Daniel Shaver or Tony Timpa.

Yes, these tragic stories do not fit the narrative about police exclusively targeting and shooting blacks. Observing and interpreting all society's ills through lenses of race and gender is extremely toxic and counterproductive for society as a whole, but I see this current trend getting even worse in the future.