I am sorry. I don't agree with you and you need to move this thread off of the suicide discussion. It doesn't belong here. Not everyone agrees with you.
Interesting take. "I do not agree with you, so this does not belong in suicide discussion." Can you see the error in your reasoning yourself, or should I help you?
I'm not sure too many people would be considering CTB on purely patriotic grounds. I think a lot of the stress and misery is a byproduct of Hyper capitalism… Most people I know have gotten super rich in the past few years leaving the rest of us behind…
I have not yet met anybody who would actually ctb for plain patriotism. But this is not about "politics", as in some far away people in a far away world doing something very removed, for a part of the population this is about invading into our very own bodies. So the problem is not "my country is going to shit, I should ctb", but "I lost power over the very little sphere that was mine, my own body, and ctb is my way out." Banning abortions does not decrease the number of dead babies, it increases the number of dead would-be-mothers. Some take the coat hanger-sepsis-route, or something similarily painful, others go straight to killing themselves and do not even try to kill the baby alone. Similar problem going on with the restriction of LGBT+ rights. For the latter, I have no numbers and little experience, but it is also invading the last bit of the world that used to be yours to form as you need it, either your own body, or who you have sex with.
I agree. I want to live in a world where some decisions are mine to make, which must include all medical decisions, as well as who I do not have sex with. As far as I am aware, the US has not (yet) banned anything I have ever done, but it is still very distressing and I think it is important to scream about it, everywhere, to hinder the spreading of the plague of anti-choice. Bonus points to screaming for making it easier to breathe.
A lot of the stuff involving LGBTQ rights and abortion Is political theater… It's basically creating huge hassles for people who can't afford to travel out of state…The pulverization of the middle class creates far more misery…
I very much agree. This is a fact that pro-lifers tend to either conveniently ignore or simply don't care about. I know for a fact that, for myself, if I become pregnant and cannot get an abortion, that will certainly be the end of the line for me. Because I refuse to bring another human being into this world and subject them to the same things that have made me want to end my life for as long as I can remember. Anyways, I seriously doubt the pro-lifers would care if I died along with the child inside me, and that alone is a good enough reason to CTB any other time.
How you feeling any the supreme court and gay marriage now. They're going to take them all away except loving bc of Clarence
The Supreme Court might take away a federal guarantee but individual states will certainly be able to pass whatever legislation they choose… In other words the Supreme Court is not going to be able to stop gay marriage or abortion rights… But they may stop a federal guarantee of those rights… This will be extremely unfortunate to people living in Alabama and other backwards places… I'm sincerely sorry for those people - it really really sucks - but they'll just have to vote themselves the laws that they want… That's how a representative democracy works… They are free to elect different state legislatures, different governors …
Have you not seen the televangelists scresmng don't say gay? The governor's and state Congress passed to prevent teaching of gay or civil rights or or segregation Have you not seen the video of women screaming baby killer and murderer at women just holding signs? Do you not realize we don't have a functioning democracy anymore? And those states will never have Democratic representation bc of the gerrymandering set by the Confederate states? And how are all the poor paycheck to paycheck women to travel 800 miles to a clinic that may be the only one in the state that is now booked for weeks in advance and you may then miss the legal cutoff.
The US and Saudi Arabia, a better love story than Twilight
In red states like Alabama limiting gay rights and abortion is certainly the Democratic process in action - the vast majority of voters are Republican. Representative democracy seems to be working quite well there.
I guess you're right if your want to take away all the rightz realized federally and make states responsible. But they're making life decisions, without having medical degrees, Abt medical issues. I guess if you think making women second to corpses is your idea of a democratic solution, your right. Human rights be damned... Let's let them enforce their religion on everyone else.
If people in Alabama want to make life miserable for themselves it's not my business to tell them what to do… We should've let the red states go when we had the chance (the civil war).I guess you're right if your want to take away all the rightz realized federally and make states responsible. But they're making life decisions, without having medical degrees, Abt medical issues. I guess if you think making women second to corpses is your idea of a democratic solution, your right. Human rights be damned... Let's let them enforce their religion on everyone else.
I guess that's what you think is ok. I guess you're a white cisgender make bc all of this affects every other person's rights. But sure. Old white men and women ruling by force and against any other believe system is fine. Just fine.
If you have anything other than wasp on your they'll come for you somehow.
But yeah. Sure. It's all Democratic for sure.
What you're not seeming to understand is there's a good number of ppl who DON'T believe the way the gerrymandered districts make it seem to everyone they want that. I'm sure it's very close to a tie to how many ppl actually want this and who don't, but they have absolutely no hope of having THEIR civil rights protected bc a close or maybe no majority rules law and order there. Don't think most black ppl don't see this as a real threat to their lives, but they have no way to move anywhere else, have no hope of winning an election, and are stuck with confederate rule. It's not representative government. It's fascism.
'LGBTQ rights' is too complicated to be just one thing. Gay marriage isn't in the same category as experimental hormonal treatments on kids without parental consent and child bodily mutilation, but 'LGBTQ rights' implies it is.
You're absolutely right… Something like 80% of even Republicans favor gay marriage… Child bodily mutilation is more complicated …
at the time, under nazi law, the medical experiments that were being done on prisoners were technically legal, but a vast majority of us agree that despite that, what they were doing was criminal - I think it's the same with a lot of this 'transitioning' stuff - it may be legal, but the state some of these young people are left in, is beyond disgraceful - and it's the US, so of course it's all about money - an industry worth billions and growing
I read the other day about someone left with a hairy 'vagina', and when I say vagina I mean that using proper English, rather than American English, where they use the word vagina to mean vulva - I mean the passage they had made from forearm skin, but for some reason they hadn't stopped the hair growth, so you can imagine the mess this person was in - it may be legal, but so was the shit they were doing in the nazi camps, under the, then, current nazi law
