NSFW The reality of CTB impact on others. Important! (Video)

[Dark Window]

BEFORE ANYONE GETS PISSED OFF -

I AM FOR YOUR RIGHT TO END YOUR OWN LIFE.....

....but if you're going to do it, consider making sure that your family aren't the ones that find you!

Don't let your parents find your dead body. Don't let anyone who loves you find your corpse.

It's one thing a random stranger who doesn't give a shit about you, but your parents reaction may be dreadful.

Seriously triggering video. Don't watch if you are sensitive. I think it's important you fully understand how your death will feel to others. If you are brave enough to watch the below video, you will see.

This video involves a mother witnessing her sons CTB. You may say "my family wont see me ACTUALLY committing suicide", but finding your dead body isn't much better. I've seen videos of parents reactions to finding their children's bodies, and it's dreadful.

The below video is one of the worst videos I've ever seen. There isn't really any gore/blood, it's a low quality video, but it's the reaction of the people that is the worst.

Spoiler: Warning triggering material

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/139720/horrified-mother-witnesses-son-leap-from

P.S. Before anyone calls for me to be banned, I've seen plenty of threads with gore/death/suicide videos and pictures being posted before. So talk to me in DM Mods if you have an issue because you've allowed it plenty of times before.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Not gonna watch it, videos like this is just guilt tripping suffering people to stay alive, I feel guilty enough over how it will ruin my parents life I don´t need explicit details about it.

 

[Dark Window]

Not gonna watch it, videos like this is just guilt tripping suffering people to stay alive, I feel guilty enough over how it will ruin my parents life I don´t need explicit details about it.

I'm not guilt tripping you to stay alive, I'm telling you to please not let your family find your body!

If you're going to hang yourself/SN make sure you have time and send a time release email to the police so they find your body, or leave a note outside your door.

Don't let them see you like that.

 

[LifeIsCrazyNemb]

BEFORE ANYONE GETS PISSED OFF -

I AM FOR YOUR RIGHT TO END YOUR OWN LIFE.....

....but if you're going to do it, consider making sure that your family aren't the ones that find you!

Don't let your parents find your dead body. Don't let anyone who loves you find your corpse.

It's one thing a random stranger who doesn't give a shit about you, but your parents reaction may be dreadful.

Seriously triggering video. Don't watch if you are sensitive. I think it's important you fully understand how your death will feel to others. If you are brave enough to watch the below video, you will see.

This video involves a mother witnessing her sons CTB. You may say "my family wont see me ACTUALLY committing suicide", but finding your dead body isn't much better. I've seen videos of parents reactions to finding their children's bodies, and it's dreadful.

The below video is one of the worst videos I've ever seen. There isn't really any gore/blood, it's a low quality video, but it's the reaction of the people that is the worst.

Spoiler: Warning triggering material

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/139720/horrified-mother-witnesses-son-leap-from

P.S. Before anyone calls for me to be banned, I've seen plenty of threads with gore/death/suicide videos and pictures being posted before. So talk to me in DM Mods if you have an issue because you've allowed it plenty of times before.

Thats why the best place to CTB is in a big hotel chain room. Very impersonal, staff "prepared" for this kind of event, an ambulance is called and, most important, your parents will be the last one to see your corpse.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I'm not guilt tripping you to stay alive, I'm telling you to please not let your family find your body!

If you're going to hang yourself/SN make sure you have time and send a time release email to the police so they find your body, or leave a note outside your door.

Don't let them see you like that.

Sounds dangerous to contact the police and of course I wouldn´t do it a place where my family would find my body.

 

[Dark Window]

Sounds dangerous to contact the police and of course I wouldn´t do it a place where my family would find my body.

I said "time release", meaning you can create an email that doesn't send immediately and only hours after you're dead.

 

[FuneralCry]

So why do they procreate if they are so anti-death and are so upset by death, I don't get it. They literally caused the person to die in the first place and everyone's going to die somewhere, someday. Those who procreate are the problem and are responsible for creating all the suffering as they forced life here, if one never existed they wouldn't have to die. And people are already suffering enough without being guilt tripped, if someone wants to die on their own terms then that's their personal decision, it's not about other people.

 

[bed]

Don't let your parents find your dead body. Don't let anyone who loves you find your corpse.

either way someone you're close with generally has to ID your body and see your corpse. Yes it is a bit different seeing it right after the act is committed, ill say that but they're going to see it regardless.
not everyone has the opportunity to ctb somewhere where a family member won't be able to see them until after this matter. Also you could argue that letting a random person see your dead body first just creates even more suffering because it'd involve an extra member.

 

[F@#$]

I've found two friends that had died. One was suicide for sure (shotgun blast) the second was and overdose. It sucks really hard to see someone you knew all clammy and dead.

 

[casual_existence]

You didn't have to make your thread so reactionary. People die all the time and in much worse ways. I certainly wouldn't make myself so publicly known but whether people die in spectacular fashion or in their room someone will probably see your body and that person will be affected. Mother or random passerby it doesn't matter the person won't be around to see it either way.

This seems to play on power dynamics. Who matters more? The mother who is suffering right now or the person who has been suffering for a long time? The choice is there and it's cruel to place it on someone who is considerate but also suffering.

 

[deathslament]

I'm not guilt tripping you to stay alive, I'm telling you to please not let your family find your body!

If you're going to hang yourself/SN make sure you have time and send a time release email to the police so they find your body, or leave a note outside your door.

Don't let them see you like that.

What family? Why assume like everyday has anybody.

 

[strangelife]

Of course, it is very difficult for loved ones, especially when in this way and in front of them

 

[rozeske]

I think it can easily be assumed no one thinks their ctb doesn't have an effect on loved ones especially if they witness it or find your body(or any person finding your body for that matter). You need to understand that people make due with what they've got. The same way someone without access to assisted suicide is forced to choose other gruesome and painful or less effective methods, people without the luxury of choosing places die wherever they can.

 

[strangelife]

I found my father dead in bed, he died of natural causes at a decent age, it was hard, I lay down next to him and lay down for a while until they took him to the morgue. But I wasn't panicking or going crazy about it, maybe because I was preparing for it gradually.

 

[LittleCupcake]

This might be an unpopular opinion, my parents deserve to see that. they've collectivly abused me both physically and mentally. It'll be the last fuck you too type thing, tbh I hope spirites exist so I can watch them cry and see them giving apploigies to my body.

 

[RainAndSadness]

I recognise your thread comes with good intentions but not everyone has the privilege to ctb in a hotel room or alert non-family members that they're going to die. Let's not blame those who can't follow your advice. I agree that harm reduction is important - that's literally why we have method talk - but not everyone has the luxury to make such arrangements. And taking your own life is a human right even if you hurt loved ones in that process.

 

[Oliver]

The least someone can do is to make sure that the loved ones isn't going to discover the death body.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

B

Literally can't see the first two sentences on default light mode.

In any case, what's with the font, all caps, colour, clickbait title and sensationalism? Your opinion isn't more important than anyone elses. I find this really disrespectful and tone-deaf personally. Your post is obviously going to upset some people the way it's worded, so much for the harm reduction you're attempting. Have you considered treating people like this might ruin someone's day or make them feel worse? Where's the empathy?

I feel bad for the people that don't have family or loved ones. I feel bad for the people that don't have a lot of choice in how and where they ctb. A lot of people feel there is risk inherent in contacting the police and they want to ensure their method is successful. Dying isn't easy, sometimes it's a slow, painful process.

I have a friend myself who wants to die right now. If you want to make people feel better, how about helping suicidal people instead? At least so they don't suffer as much, or they have someone they can talk to before they ctb, or they're well-informed about their methods. Not everyone even has a good relationship with their family, and they brought us into the world without our consent in any case. Instead of this potential guilt-tripping and prolonging suffering. Suicidal people are still people, and people deserve better.

I'm going to miss my friend, but I would be okay with finding their body. If I was a parent, I would feel bad either way, but if I wasn't there for them when they needed me, then I would feel worse. I think there are worse things. Like suffering, every day, being completely hopeless, never being happy, not being able to feel anything, being tortured, living in an unpleasant environment, being a wage-slave, not feeling adequate, many things, everyday. A death is going to be a shock, it's more of a shock if you had no idea.

Everyone is so scared of feeling guilty, but I think, sometimes people should.

 

[Dot]

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[vak]

Such a bad post, starting with a conclusion that's supposedly everyone's reaction, which isn't the case. I reckon we know our parents or those close to us well enough to not have to look up shocking videos on fetish gore sites. And it's almost certainly on everyone's mind already. I don't see how this is supposed to enrich me, apart from attempting to incite guilt.

 

[DreamEnd]

You aren't gonna get a lot of positive comments due to the nature of the site but I agree with you. Suicide is a tragic and horrifying event for everyone involved including close relatives and friends. People who say you are just guilt tripping them don't really understand the weight of their actions on others. Suicide can and most of the time will completely destroy the life of close partners or family members and if they don't ctb after you, they will have to live with that weight for the rest of their lives.

So why do they procreate if they are so anti-death and are so upset by death, I don't get it. They literally caused the person to die in the first place and everyone's going to die somewhere, someday. Those who procreate are the problem and are responsible for creating all the suffering as they forced life here, if one never existed they wouldn't have to die. And people are already suffering enough without being guilt tripped, if someone wants to die on their own terms then that's their personal decision, it's not about other people.

This kind of thinking is completely devoid of any sort of emotion, compassion or empathy or even the bare minimum of responsibility. "Why is this mother grieving she gave birth to her child she should know he's gonna die". Yeah most parents don't want their kids to die before them.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

People who say you are just guilt tripping them don't really understand the weight of their actions on others. Suicide can and most of the time will completely destroy the life of close partners or family members and if they don't ctb after you, they will have to live with that weight for the rest of their lives.

I don't know about that, I think this is a perfectly valid example of guilt-tripping. People full well know the consequences of their actions. It just seems like a tone-deaf thing to say. You have to realise that in some cases, close partners or family members are the direct cause of the suffering for some people here and can have made the suicidal person suffer their entire life up to this point. The suicidal people probably care more about their family, than the family cares about them already, Stockholms/Trauma-Bonding and all. I think it's hard enough for some people. If you put yourself in those shoes, this comes across as victim blaming. Even the worst parents don't want their kids to die before them, for talking about lack of empathy, I'm seeing some.

Just my opinion but I'm seeing a total disconnect in the lack of and acknowledgement of real-life experience of others. Not everyone is blessed with loving parents, family, partners, friends, etc. Even if you direct this only at those people that have a completely loving support network, well, I think you'll find that it's a smaller subset of suicidal people. And when people are brought up by loving families, there's a higher incidence of them learning the positives and self-sustaining behaviours in life, and they should have the example already from family/peers to know how their ctb will have consequences on their family. So it's preaching to the choir.

How can you even append with things like "Suicide can and most of the time will completely destroy the life of close partners or family members and if they don't ctb after you, they will have to live with that weight for the rest of their lives." and come to the conclusion that it's not guilt-tripping, I do not understand. That's the definition of guilt-tripping, implying that their life will be "completely destroyed" and that's only if they don't ctb afterwards, do you not see that as manipulative? The truth is, having a suicide only increases pre-existing suicidal thoughts, there's a specific chance increase but it's not a probable event at all, and is statistically recorded if anyone wants to look it up. And then people get on with their lives. That's what non-suicidal people do. How many of us, being actually suicidal, are still here despite losing friends, family, loved ones? Think about it.

"Guilt-tripping is a manipulative tactic used to make someone feel guilty or responsible for something, often in order to control their behavior or actions. It typically involves highlighting past actions or situations in a way that evokes feelings of guilt or shame, whether warranted or not. Guilt-tripping can be subtle or overt, and it may involve emotional manipulation, passive-aggressive behavior, or even explicit statements intended to induce guilt."

 

[lemonbunny]

can someone tldr this video. im scared to click on the link, is it really just a mother freaking out about her child

 

[Malaria]

Not gonna lie OP, it feels like you're exploiting someone else's suicide, and the trauma of a mother, to make a point. Maybe that's not your intention, but that's how it appears to me. Honestly, not a very good look, this feels very disrespectful.

 

[DreamEnd]

I don't know about that, I think this is a perfectly valid example of guilt-tripping. People full well know the consequences of their actions. It just seems like a tone-deaf thing to say.

Guilt tripping is a catch all term to describe having no responsibility. Think of your family isn't really telling person to feel guilty for ctb. It means thinking about whether they truly understand what they are doing and what they are going to do and how it will affect others. Surprisingly, not everyone seems to truly understand what can happen.

You have to realise that in some cases, close partners or family members are the direct cause of the suffering for some people here and can have made the suicidal person suffer their entire life up to this point. The suicidal people probably care more about their family, than the family cares about them already, Stockholms/Trauma-Bonding and all. I think it's hard enough for some people. If you put yourself in those shoes, this comes across as victim blaming. Even the worst parents don't want their kids to die before them, for talking about lack of empathy, I'm seeing some.

Yes of course there are individual cases where the broad generalisation wouldn't apply. But it wouldn t apply for guilt tripping as well: every situation is different.
So saying you should think about others is lack of empathy but saying you shouldn't and you should only care about what's good for you is? Ok gotcha. Empathy is when you are capable of reflecting on how your actions and words are going to impact others as well as yourself.
And understanding others feelings. It means weighing it all together and proceeding with the action that minimises potential suffering. It's not a one way street it is a two way street. Being empathetic towards a suicidal person does not mean allowing them to do whatever they feel like doing. It means helping them if you can and informing them about the decision they are going to make:

Just my opinion but I'm seeing a total disconnect in the lack of and acknowledgement of real-life experience of others. Not everyone is blessed with loving parents, family, partners, friends, etc. Even if you direct this only at those people that have a completely loving support network, well, I think you'll find that it's a smaller subset of suicidal people. And when people are brought up by loving families, there's a higher incidence of them learning the positives and self-sustaining behaviours in life, and they should have the example already from family/peers to know how their ctb will have consequences on their family. So it's preaching to the choir.

Saying that thinking of others isn't guilt tripping is not not acknowledging life experience of others. Those who don't have a loving family would think about it and act accordingly. So would those who have a loving family.

And regarding your supposed claim. I'm pretty sure most suicidal people have someone they know close to them. Doesn't have to be a family member, it can be a friend or even a partner

 

[LevUwU]

God, I can't watch. I've read similar and all of it is so harrowing. Everyone, please, if your family does matter to you, spare them the pain.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

can someone tldr this video. im scared to click on the link, is it really just a mother freaking out about her child

I can check it for you.

Ok, it's 1 minute long, graphic and with unedited, graphic audio. Public live jump ctb to street level in front of a crowd, they fall after about 10 seconds. Then there is loud wailing from one individual you can't see for most of the remainder of the video., I assume it's the mother, but it's unclear. There are no other details in the videos that indicate any other familial involvement at all. A police officer appears to be present. There is no gore, besides audio gore.

So to sum, public live jump, unedited audio, loud wailing.

I'll just add since nobody responded to it yet but to this statement
"I've seen plenty of threads with gore/death/suicide videos and pictures being posted before."

Unspoilered gore and anything else that is potentially inappropriate or triggering is reportable and has been moderated before as well. I can't make any comments about the specific link of the video but it's probably something one of the moderators should check before deciding whether it's appropriate, so don't think that just because something has been posted before, means that it is appropriate and allowed.

@Dream, at least two obvious strawman fallacies in your argument right there. Rewriting the argument/misrepresenting what was actually said, to make you right isn't the gotcha you think it is.
1. "So saying you should think about others is lack of empathy but saying you shouldn't and you should only care about what's good for you is? Ok gotcha. "
- Nobody said that
2. "Saying that thinking of others isn't guilt tripping is not not acknowledging life experience of others."
- Nobody said that
Read back on what you actually said that I said was guilt-tripping. I quoted you, so you deliberately misheard, which is disingenuous and frankly a disgusting way to try to argue your point. This is all in text, so you have no excuse to fall back on "vocal mishearing/gaslighting" when you can literally go back and read what I quoted.

 

[RosesFlourish]

This is very shallow and judgmental. The presentation with bold letters certainly doesn't help and makes it sensational. There's no nuance or exploration of the morality of who finds you. It's just a blanket statement that doesn't encourage discussion. You have freedom of expression, and this probably won't be taken down, but it's still in poor taste.

 

[mtoro998]

It is his right to commit suicide. However doing it in front of his Mother is messed up. We dont know if she did anything to him I guess.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I've seen the entirety of the 1 minute and 1 second video and my opinions after watching the video are the same as my opinions before watching the video. It's just pointless guilt tripping to me. If my parents don't want to see me die, they shouldn't have gave birth to me in the first place. I don't care what my parents reactions are. I'm actually glad that I'm not burdened with sentimental things like this otherwise my life would be far more exhausting than it actually is. I will prioritise my desire for permanent peace over other people's desires to keep me alive to function as a wage slave.

Besides, everybody dies anyway so, in the end, a reaction like this is inevitable even if they weren't going to kill themselves. The only difference would be as to who reacts with grief first depending on whether the mother dies first by natural death or not. I see this as a closed system and hence I see grief caused by suicide as it merely bringing the inevitable closer