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YourNeighbor

Arcanist
Jul 22, 2021
423
it is a waste of everyone time. the product is legal.

it reminds me of gun control arguments: Access to gun increases suicide risk. The respond is usually: if someone wants to suicide they will find a way.

Limiting peaceful methods is barbaric. It will result in more gruesome/violent suicides
Access to guns in the US is protected by the constitution. Access to SN is not, so it can theoretically be restricted or abolished outright.
 
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Nightmare Painting

Student
Dec 16, 2021
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,391
Good thing I already got mine but sucks for anyone in the future who has a hard time getting it.
 
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orange

Experienced
Nov 19, 2021
243
Jesus. Already ordered mine, but my asshole is gonna stay clenched until it arrives and I test it.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
3,413
Ban firearms
Ban pesticides
Ban scarves
Ban scissors (even the plastic ones)
Ban prescription narcotics
Ban all high rises and tall structures
Ban inert gas
Ban bridges
Fuck it, let ban every structure that a rope can be tied to like trees, faucets, beds, closets, doorknobs because we're all babies apparently.
Those controlling NYT bastards don't even know science .
They don't know that burning wood or charcoal and many other substances in a tent, or car, any enclosed space creates deadly levels of carbon monoxide. I'll delete this post to not give the NYT bastards ideas to ban more items.

Just 1 percent co in an enclosed space kills fast.

Even if they get companies to restrict SN I know several other ways of creating massive levels of co . So the bastards will never stop me from ctb ing away from this hell world.

These NYT bastards are destroying the Earth: human population is skyrocketing going to 8 billion soon . They r stopping those of us that want to leave life and so they r making overpopulation worse
 
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Onthe29th

Onthe29th

Experienced
Dec 28, 2021
255
Those controlling NYT bastards don't even know science .
They don't know that burning wood or charcoal and many other substances in a tent, or car etc creates deadly levels of carbon monoxide. So I'll delete this post so as to not give the NYT bastards ideas to ban more items.

Just 1 percent co in an enclosed space kills fast
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They're not psych experts at all so I don't know if they realize how stupid they look trying to weigh in on something they know nothing about 🤷🏽‍♀️
 
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Intelligent_Panic99

Intelligent_Panic99

Student
Jan 4, 2022
114
Jesus. Already ordered mine, but my asshole is gonna stay clenched until it arrives and I test it.
Same same. I just ordered mine from a very popular website. It supposedly shipped a few days ago but tracking only that only the label was created. If anyone has any other sources… can you pm???
 
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demuic

Life was a mistake
Sep 12, 2020
1,383
I knew this would happen. This is why all the attention on this site is nothing but negative. I already bought my SN but I may buy another brand as well as I haven't gotten to test this one yet. I've always wished people would stop mentioning sources but the damage has already been long since done.

I agree with the other posts, buy SN now if you ever have even the slightest intention of using it because it will become very hard to access soon.

Fuck these dumbass Karens and moral crusaders. I don't see them trying to ban rope or destroy every tall building on earth which were used in far more deaths than SN ever has. They're doing nothing but forcing people to result to more painful methods. These kinds of people and their fake "help" are one of the reasons why people commit suicide.
 
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Kristicide

Kristicide

I am a prisoner locked up behind xanax bars
Dec 16, 2021
330
I bought mine a few weeks ago because I was afraid that it could become impossible to get soon. I'm still waiting for it to come but they gave me advanced notice it would take about a month. It's in transit so hopefully all goes well. Honestly most people in the US commit suicide with guns so I don't know why they clamp down on these other means.
 
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waitingforrest

Elementalist
Dec 27, 2021
842
The amount of inconsistencies in their argument is astounding. Banning less gruesome methods does increase the chances of someone using more dangerous methods. It doesn't take much logic to see why.

There are numerous articles and data on methods used. Obviously the US has more gun suicides while the UK has more hangings. It really does matter what is available. Even with banning one method, people are still going to resort to others. It may sound like I'm using the slippery slope logic, but that really is the truth. If people have a will, they will find a way.

Here is a article from a reputable source. Unlike actual journalists, I don't just make claims without citing my sources. Even kids in school know to cite their sources.
(Sorry for the anger, I just really dislike what has become of journalism)

I really hope I do not need to explain why guns are less prone to failure and why they are more traumatizing.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2649482/
 
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Meretlein

Meretlein

Moderator
Feb 15, 2019
1,199
Worldwide 700,000 people die of suicide according to the WHO, a tiny fraction of those deaths are SN. Those who operate from a perspective of obligatory life surely know this, yet they do not care about those other deaths. They want to make it as hard as possible to opt out and they do that by restricting the amount of peaceful methods.

No one chose to be born and have the harms and costs of life forced upon them, so why can we not chose to leave?
 
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Wrennie

Wrennie

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Dec 18, 2019
1,546
I just want to "congratulate" the NYT. 😒

Because of their "journalism", people that otherwise wouldn't have felt the need to purchase SN until now are suddenly feeling pressured into stocking up on it just in the event that they'll ever come to need it.

I wonder how many suicidal people across the globe have now discovered that such a substance exists because of a "reputable" news outlet with widespread outreach reporting on its existence & present availability? It's like a promotion.

(Unlike, say, a 'formerly' obscure suicide forum that someone had to actively seek out in order to find).
 
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thesighofleaves

thesighofleaves

Member
Aug 19, 2019
20
What gets me about all this, especially the woman in the article.

You're damn kid was going to die anyway! If you're so mad, why even have a kid? You have a kid committing to death and guaranteeing it to pain in some kind of way. Now you want everyone else to continue suffering? Absolutely retarded.

You don't want people to kill themselves? Don't make people. You make a person, it has free enough will to do what it wants. You make a person, it might decide living in this world is too painful. You make a person, because of natural law, it will die anyway. Can't deal with this reality? Don't make a person.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,802
When people are grieving, it's common to speculate if you had performed xyz action, that your loved one wouldn't have passed away in the end. Searching for blame, or justice, is a means of coping for many who have lost people they love due to accidents- overdoses, car crashes, etc- and suicide.

We all know banning suicide methods won't bring the deceased back, but often times people think taking these actions will bring them closure, accompanied by the belief that they righted the wrongs leading to the death of someone they cherished.

When one of my parents died early in my childhood, my relatives ferverently went looking for blame in a futile attempt to quell their grief and anger.

Even then, I knew that banning alcohol completely, or invisioning a fantastical paradigm where not a single intoxicated driver could access a roadway, was not going to bring my father back from the grave. When someone is gone, they're gone for good. They aren't coming back. Substance bans won't change that.

Many studies they cite, making bold claims like restricting access to methods decreases the number of completed suicides, don't follow up the participants in the long term. We can't quantify whether or not an alcoholic who drank himself to death at age 50 had his suicide successfully prevented, because at the end of the day, many people will make self destructive decisions leading to an early death in the wake of restricted access to suicide methods.

The NYT continues to profit from bereaving families' grief by exploiting their stories for sensationalised clicks. You can tell by the saccharine, pristine countenance displayed by that reporter while she shamelessly plugs the link to purchase her autobiography, a heroic tale where she rakes in millions as a lawyer defending against heinous cybercrimes.

If preventing suicide were this team's modus operandi, they wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon when a convenient opportunity for their law firm presented itself. They are well aware that this method is incredibly obscure, but exaggerating the impact and scope of this matter garners more attention for their newspaper.
 
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Julgran

Enlightened
Dec 15, 2021
1,427
I must say, thinking from grieving parents' point of view for a second, this article, firstly, names the substance by name - and secondly, mentions that it can be purchased online easily - and thirdly, undeniably confirms that it's an effective end-of-life method.

What were they thinking...?
 
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LastFlowers

LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
I don't want to cause alarm, but if you want Sodium Nitrite, before the PC brigade take it away, try get a hold of some ASAP. Sadly, this will be restricted for sale in most places and may even become like Nembutal to get a hold of. They would be as well as just saying to people, hey why not jump in front of a train or jump from a building instead because we are taking away your rights to a relatively peaceful death. Fucking bastards!
Do you know SN's shelf life? I knew it at one point but now I've forgotten, jw if anyone has a quick answer.
 
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Circles

Visionary
Sep 3, 2018
2,297
Do you know SN's shelf life? I knew it at one point but now I've forgotten, jw if anyone has a quick answer.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stop-spreading-misinformation-about-the-storage-of-sn.69105/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/can-sn-expire.41324/
 
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Ironweed

Ironweed

Nauseated.
Nov 9, 2019
327
Nt abl 2 rd artcle - cn n.e.1 cpy & pste it
Sometimes sites can get in trouble if you post the full text of a news article. But here's a link to an archive:

I must say, thinking from grieving parents' point of view for a second, this article, firstly, names the substance by name - and secondly, mentions that it can be purchased online easily - and thirdly, undeniably confirms that it's an effective end-of-life method.

What were they thinking...?
Clickbaiting the outrage brigade, of course.
 
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Julgran

Enlightened
Dec 15, 2021
1,427
Clickbaiting the outrage brigade, of course.

What do you mean? All I said is that the article doesn't make any sense from the perspective of the grieving parents.

Maybe you meant to say that the article writer was clickbaiting the outrage brigade - that makes sense.
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
433
funny how they want this banned, but don't say shit about guns and how they are a choice in many suicides. Why not ban them too?
funny how they want this banned, but don't say shit about guns and how they are a choice in many suicides. Why not ban them too?
 
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Hope:-)

Enlightened
Jul 3, 2022
1,120
I'm buying the sn now for future use if need be. Still praying that i can get my hands on some n, but being realistic. By cracking down on the n they've already left me with a less peaceful method with the sn, what's next if that goes?
 
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watchingthewheels

Enlightened
Jan 23, 2021
1,415
"Rabid pro-choice" vs. "genocidal pro-death":

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...man-species-suddenly-died.57316/#post-1055043
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,256
All humans will die someday eventually, so to me it is cruel to try and force people to live all for the sake of it. Life has no purpose, meaning or value so if someone wants to leave then their wishes should be respected. I do not see any point in suffering until old age when I could be peacefully not existing. Wanting to take away the SN is selfish and unfair, it is unfair on the suicidal people as they will have to resort to leaving by painful and risky methods. Dying should be accepted in society, death is what all humans are intended for anyway. Even the journalist could become suicidal and then they would want SN.
 
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