Method The "night-night" method mega thread.

[eerie peer]

Omg I never considerate this as a possibility. In retrospect it makes sense, depriving myself of blood without choking nor destroying it with a gun? Impressive. I gotta say, this is a live-saver, in the opposite definition of the word.

 

[KANCEL]

This sounds better than CM

 

[peacefuldeath2017]

Just wanted to say this method is absolutely legit. I've done BJJ for many years and know all about the rear naked choke and have even been choked unconscious from it.

Just tried this method and could feel a similar level of pressure and started seeing myself slip into unconsciousness. The only problem was the tie was too tight and collapsed my trachea creating a panic response and triggering SI.

I struggled for about 20 seconds trying to to pry the tie off my neck and couldn't find the clamp. Then realized all I had to do was pull out the bundled up cloth and once I did that the pressure subsided.

Should I not tighten the tie as much and maybe position it differently so it doesn't trigger SI? It's a legit method but really want to go peacefully and not clawing at my neck.

All love and hope we can find peace and healing. If not in this life, than the next

 

[arthurkuzechov]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Hello there! I wanna thank you with all my heart, 'cause of I knew that it possible to stop blood circulation to the brain via carotid arteries. And I did try it by myself, with scarf, rope and other stuffs, but I'd slightly damaged my trachea. And I had a mistake - I pressed only one side of artery on the right side of the neck. So now I know how to do it right, and I have ordered the cornhole bags and tree ratchet, despite of the fact that I live one of the CIS country where the cornhole game isn't known at all. So now I will wait two weeks while my cornhole bags will be delivered to me. Much luv to y'all!
P.S Sorry, my first comment has two pieces of the reply. I did delete it.

 

[TiredHuman]

Hello. This method sounds actually pretty good and it's my ideal method so far to ctb. I'm planning on doing it one of these days. I have a question, though. Is it possible for it to work with folded clothes instead of cornhole sacks? I have tape already, I just need to know if I would need the cornholes; because of my current situation, I'm unable to get them.

 

[Dgafajwd]

What can be used instead of the cornhole bags?

 

[chronicdissosiation]

What can be used instead of the cornhole bags?

shirts or hand towels might work, dont know though. never tried so take this with a grain of salt

 

[Groot]

Woah this sounds too good to be true has anyone actually successfully cbt with this method? Also I'm new hi everyone :)

I'm terrified I'll live and end up worse off with brain damage.

Ahhh ik it's such a risk I wish I was braver

 

[dzcalm]

is there an alternative for the ratchet in this case? I don't have a ratchet. Also, would just normal duct tape work as well instead of gorilla tape?

I have a short elastic band with two hooks on either side, but I do not know if that will be enough pressure. Alternatively I could use a belt but that requires constant readjustment so it might not work. I could then use the both together, but I again do not know if it will work.

 

[Tecknicolour]

I'm really hoping I can use this method to CTB, probably later this year. But I just can't figure out where my carotid arteries are. I've been trying for hours over the past week, and have had absolutely NO success. Sucks, man.

 

[arthurkuzechov]

I'm really hoping I can use this method to CTB, probably later this year. But I just can't figure out where my carotid arteries are. I've been trying for hours over the past week, and have had absolutely NO success. Sucks, man.

Hey! Check these videos out! It might be helpful.

At that video just check 0.55-57 seconds of that video the man shows where carotid artery is placed.

If to be more precise just put your index and middle finger together touch the angle of the jaw. Then go slowly down to your neck and there you may sense the pulse. There is carotid artery.

 

[arthurkuzechov]

I'm really hoping I can use this method to CTB, probably later this year. But I just can't figure out where my carotid arteries are. I've been trying for hours over the past week, and have had absolutely NO success. Sucks, man.

There is one more video which helps easily find the carotid artery

 

[paintedwreath]

Does this method actually work? Is there anyone who was actually successful with this

 

[arthurkuzechov]

Does this method actually work? Is there anyone who was actually successful with this

Yeah, as I know one of the members who wrote the commentaries at this thread did ctb with this method. And about the creator of this method I know he also did ctb but I didn't know by which method. But that's it. I try it, but have no success at this moment.

 

[Tecknicolour]

There is one more video which helps easily find the carotid artery

The thing that's really bugging me about this is after following all these, I feel I've found my carotid pulse, but pressing down on it doesn't make me lose sight or conciousness. Am I doing something wrong?

 

[arthurkuzechov]

The thing that's really bugging me about this is after following all these, I feel I've found my carotid pulse, but pressing down on it doesn't make me lose sight or conciousness. Am I doing something wrong?

Nope you don't. When I was tring this method for the first time I was affreid of I was doing something wrong. But the point of it is that our fingers (as I suppose) have not much power of pressure to get us unconciousness. The minim weight of pressure must be 5 kg at least. And if you have a solid musculature on your neck, or wide or highly convex Adam's appale so there you need much more weight of compressing. So as I get in my mind is that better of all is to use tourniquet method. 'Cause of in that method you press not onlyat cartid atreries but at the veins and also you compress the highest lever of your neck above the Adam's apple - and there thrachea and musclulature are less well defined.
At the moments of practicing the night-night method the cornhole bags slightly push the cartid arteries but not enough. So I feel a little bit dizzy, but I don't get blackout. With tourniquiet it's easier to achieve. (There many cases of dead with the tourniqiet method. You may check "Five Last Acts" book - there is more detailed information about it.)

 

[rimi-ee]

I looked for the knockout point for around 10min total and I found it! It's so exciting to have power over your life at any given moment. Paradoxically I kinda want to live now lol

 

[arthurkuzechov]

I looked for the knockout point for around 10min total and I found it! It's so exciting to have power over your life at any given moment. Paradoxically I kinda want to live now lol

Hey. That's great, now you know where your personal "power off" buttons are. And of course if you wanna live so live. it's cool that this forum makes people realise the priceless of the life.

 

[Sageiois]

How do i find the arteries? I can feel the pulse but when i practice with my hands its like they move around and i cant find the sweet spot

 

[arthurkuzechov]

How do i find the arteries? I can feel the pulse but when i practice with my hands its like they move around and i cant find the sweet spot

Man, just look up there I post the videos about how to find it.

 

[suspendedingaffa]

im sure this has been said before but i love the frequently bought together section on the amazon page for the tree ratchet lmao

 

[notsurewhattosay]

I think ive found the artery on both sides of the neck. When i press on it with my fingers on both sides, i dont pass out but i feel like my hearing goes muffly and also weirdly i get this tingling in my face and particularly my lips. Is that heading in the right direction?

 

[seeking2024]

what a through thread. any question i could have had, has been answered in this thread, probably more than once. :)

 

[oneirataxia]

Good lord...

 

[Jorms_McGander]

do you

do you think this would work with folded socks instead of the sack/cornhole bags? or does it have to be something weighted? i'd like to ctb sooner rather than later and i have everything except the bags

I've got a couple nice chestnuts that I picked out for this purpose. My thinking there is that a firmer rather than softer object will work better. The softness of the object would be a matter of comfort. I can press two fingertips into my neck firmly enough to occlude blood flow without excessive discomfort. A chestnut is broader than my fingertips, so it will be more comfortable than that. Without having practiced with softer objects, folded socks seem a little too giving. I'd choose something more firm.

 

[Anhaedra]

Can I use a belt instead of the tape or ratchet?

 

[CTBsoonbyNN]

I have spent the last two weeks trying to figure this method out. I finally figured it out and wanted to pass on the information for anyone who needs it. Keep in mind, some of this may not apply to you or it may be wrong but these are my findings while figuring this out.

I found my carotid artery pretty earlier on while I was sitting up. My vision started fading quickly and so I let up. It wasn't until later that I found out you have two locations for your carotid artery on each side of your neck. The one I found was directly beside the windpipe on each side. I later found out that the correct carotid arteries you want to compress are further away from the windpipe and slightly higher up. You want to push directly into your neck to hit them. It's also important to note that it is much easy to compress your carotid artery when you are sitting up versus laying down. Because you don't want a failed attempt, you want to make sure you do this lying down so falling over won't ease up the pressure on your artery. I tried the square bean bags, compressed socks, folded socks, marbles with compressed socks and beanbags, and medication caps. The ones on the regular sized bottles. All of those and I still was not able to compress them with the ratchet.

So regarding the ratchet, I bought two. One with a width of 2" and another with 1.5". I am on the smaller side so I found out the 1.5" was the way to go for me. Too wide and it makes it harder to get the ratchet high enough on your neck. I originally was also using one with hooks. When I switched to the 1.5", I cut the hook off and tied a good length of the belt to the metal part where the hook was attached too. Then I fed it through the ratchet like normal.

I tried all of the above methods of compression with the 1.5" and was still coming up with nothing but tonight, I finally did it. I decided to try the medicine caps again but by themselves. After some adjustments, I realized the caps need to be farther apart from where I was pushing the carotid artery with my fingers. It's closer to the outside of your neck, if that makes sense. I applied pressure and it worked! The problem though, is that to compress just your carotid artery, you need a specific spot that doesn't also hit the spot that causes your head to feel pressure. I found out that was actually wrong. If you compress both arteries at the same time, you won't get that pressure because you block blood to and from the brain.

So what I ended up doing was taking a long sock I had, and thing it around my neck, relatively tight but not uncomfortable. I then placed the medicine caps under the sock into the correct places and thebsock was tied tight enough to keep them in position. After I got that set up, I laid down and pushed them directly towards the center of my neck and started getting the head pressure. I pushed them even harder against my neck and the pressure went away and my vision started fading fast. That's when I realized the problem and reason it wasn't working for me before. The directions say you can tighten it at your leisure but the truth is, you want to tighten it quickly once you know the caps are in the right place. You basically will tighten the ratchet to the point where it's tight around your neck but it's not cutting off anything. Something important to note, when you tight the ratchet, if you are not using tape or something strong to keep the caps in place, they will be moved from the strap pulling on them as the ratchet tightens everything. Since i didn't have tape, I shifted the strap in the opposite direction that it was being pulled while i was cranking the ratchet to keep everything in place. Once you have the ratchet tight, when you are ready to CTB, you will want to crank it quickly 3-5 times. If done correctly, you will tighten both arteries at the same time and the pressure will go away and your vision will begin to blur. If the pressure remains after a couple of seconds after tightening it, release the ratchet and make adjustments to where the caps are placed. Keep in mind you want to do all of this from a laying down position. If you are sitting when you fade out and fall over, there is a good chance the pressure won't be enough and you will wake up.

My first successful attempt at compressing correctly with the ratchet happened about an hour ago. By tightening the ratchet quickly, I felt pressure and it immediately faded followed by my vision blocking out. I quickly released it since I am not quite ready to go just yet. I'm sure I didn't do a very good job of explaining everything but hopefully it can help some of you figure it out. It is important to take things slowly to make sure everything is in place. I spent roughly 50 hours of trying to figure this out so it can absolutely take a while but I wanted a painless death and this seems like my only option.

My thoughts: I am ready to CTB because my life has been a series of terrible things over and over again. For 14 years, I have had suicidal thoughts almost daily. I met my wife and we were together for 10.5 years. She was what kept me from leaving earth. She would tell me everyday we were forever. Until last month when she left me. Abruptly too. There was no, let's try counseling or anything, though I offered. She was just done. She later told me all of the reasons why she was leaving me and most of it was things she had never mentioned during our relationship. She made me feel like trash, and kept hurting me and breaking me more than she did when she left. The plan is to CTB before the divorce is filed so that I can still die a married man to the woman that was supposed to be with me forever. I'm not sure if that will be a few weeks or months but now that I finally have the ratchet working, it makes it easier to go through these days knowing there is a clear end. I have never lived by myself and I have never felt more isolated and abandoned as I do now. I'm going to spend my last days working a boring job, but at least on the weekends, I can hang out with my friend and get some good memories before I'm gone. I am also now on talking terms with my soon to be widow and we have played video games online together like we used to. I've completely closed up to her and I don't let my guard down around here but it's nice to be able to spend more time with her before I go.

I will do my best to make another comment here right before I CTB so there is more proof it works.


Edit: Things took a turn for the worse so my plan is to CTB tonight, 5/13. If you haven't heard from me in a few days that means it was successful.

 

[Crash_Bash_Dash]

I have tried to find my sweet spot for a while now but haven't found it yet. Today I practiced with the ratchet I bought two weeks ago and tried to tighten it around my neck. As padding I used a pair of T-shirts first and then two pairs of socks. Both of those garments were jammed tightly together with duct tape. The only results I was able to get was pressure on the head on some attempts, pressure on the trachea on some attempts and on the last attempt a little heavy and uncomfortable feeling on the back/right side of the neck and on the right side of the head, behind the ear. I could also feel that the veins in the neck were pumping blood much harder and rigorously and perhaps a little less. But perhaps that's what you get when you haven't found the sweet spot and thus perhaps I am pressing the jugulars instead.

I probably should read this thread through more carefully and try to examine my neck more to find the sweet spot. Any tips for finding the sweet spot? Does the position of the neck matter when trying to facilitate the search of sweet spot/cinching the ratchet (I don't remember did I already see an answer on this thread on this specific question before but let's ask just to be on the safe side)? The last reply implies that the pressure with fingers should perhaps be applied perpendicularly on the spot where carotids are and probably you're more successful when sitting, thanks for that tip!

Edit: I found on the page 50 something about tilting your head back. Perhaps that's the trick!

 

[CosmicStrawberry]

Are the cornhole bags supposed to be small?

 

[CTBsoonbyNN]

No luck with it yet. My neck is bruised from trying it for 7 hours so I'm going to have to wait a few days for I attempt again. Maybe this weekend.