Method The "night-night" method mega thread.

[wait.what]

This is the relevant page in the PPeH, with my sloppy attempt to mark the important bits. I've never heard of a baroreceptor before this, but evidently its activation is critical for swift unconsciousness. The authors are of the opinion that a ratchet strap is to slow, which is a pity, since that is the thing that I have.

I'm not sure where it's possible to get this "fatal faint" collar. It may be only a prototype that isn't available anywhere. Something like it is probably constructable, though. Sew-in Velcro is obtainable, as is stick-on Velcro with extra-strong adhesive. I don't know what to use for the band, though. Whatever it is ought to have as little stretch as possible. Really stiff duck cloth, conceivably. I can't quite tell what she's used here. Anybody got an actual PPeH subscription and can tell us what she says in the embedded movie?

 

[Some1's_Wasted_Fetus]

It also seems to be important to crush the arteries flat as swiftly as possible. If you take a long time tightening the strap, either because you're not sure you want to go yet or because things won't stay positioned right, you won't get the swift blackout effect and you'll be forced to remain conscious for what may be an unacceptably long time. I recommend holding off with the full setup until you're ready to ctb without hesitation. If you want to just test things out, maybe only use your fingers or the ends of potatoes.

Do be careful about using the ratchet strap around body parts until you can sort out how it works, though. I tightened the thing around my thigh and then almost couldn't get it off. My ratchet does not appear to do a particularly smooth and easy open-and-release. Or maybe it does, and I'm just stupid. So far though, I've had to do this difficult and irritating manual unwinding of the strap after I open the lever to 180 degrees. There is what the instructions call a "spring-loaded release pawl," but if it has any actual effect I haven't noticed it.

* I realize that we have a worldwide user base here, and I'm unsure if there are places where potatoes are difficult to find. You could use just about anything that is firm, shapeable with a household knife, and won't cause comment if it's found in your possession.

I think you're right about this, my first time I tested I immediately pushed both fingers into my carotid arteries, I instantly felt light headed and was losing my vision, the second time I slowly pushed my fingers in, I felt lightheaded but I got that awful exploding head feeling and my vision was fine, but I'm hoping that was due to incorrect positioning

Can someone confirm if it's right? The way the OP says to clinch the ratchet makes it sound like you could do it slowly

Both of you appear to be correct. As others tried doing it slowly instead of with a swift movement and sudden constant pressure and got the head explosion feeling. I decided to hold off on using the materials until I can actually get myself to pass out using my fingers alone. There were also too many people in my apartment last night too and I ended up being too sleepy by the time I went to bed to do it. I'll look into that position where the carotid splits into the y shape. I've tried to get myself to pass out but I apply either too little or too much pressure and then my neck hurts. If you find the sweet spot I thought you didn't have to apply much pressure to pass out but maybe it's a little different for everyone

 

[LostSoul1609]

Has anyone found a reliable tool to use as "pillow"?
I have the ratchet but don't know what to buy to replace the socks

 

[wait.what]

I have bean bags, the heavy kind they use for bean bag toss. Or as they call it in my region, "cornhole." That is the actual name, and people say it with a straight face. At church picnics and everything. Anyway, I think I need something that presses more deeply into my neck over the carotids. I was thinking of having the ratchet strap on the outside, then the bean bags, then cut potato ends on the inside, as I posted about above. I'm not too sure how I'd get everything to stay in place instead of having all the various bits fall everywhere while I'm tightening the ratchet.

I had meant to test the system out, but I actually had a therapist treat me with compassion and decency the other day, and that caused me to take a step back from the brink, I think. I was open about the fact that I'm suicidal, and he focused on trying to get me to feel better instead of on covering his own ass and getting me dragged to the looney bin ASAP. I don't actually feel a whole lot better, to be honest, but the fact that he tried makes a difference to me.

 

[LostSoul1609]

I have bean bags, the heavy kind they use for bean bag toss. Or as they call it in my region, "cornhole." That is the actual name, and people say it with a straight face. At church picnics and everything. Anyway, I think I need something that presses more deeply into my neck over the carotids. I was thinking of having the ratchet strap on the outside, then the bean bags, then cut potato ends on the inside, as I posted about above. I'm not too sure how I'd get everything to stay in place instead of having all the various bits fall everywhere while I'm tightening the ratchet.

I had meant to test the system out, but I actually had a therapist treat me with compassion and decency the other day, and that caused me to take a step back from the brink, I think. I was open about the fact that I'm suicidal, and he focused on trying to get me to feel better instead of on covering his own ass and getting me dragged to the looney bin ASAP. I don't actually feel a whole lot better, to be honest, but the fact that he tried makes a difference to me.

I'm glad to hear that, if you can step away from that edge do it, I hope you find peace anyway, wheter it be by keep on living or dying.

On the methods I was thinking avout going to the hardware store again today to ask something to use to push my veins but I'm not sure about what to ask for, maybe something small in steel but I don't know what that would be. I feel like bags are too soft and slippery.

 

[smithy]

This is great. But too many posts by now. If someone could do a new one with all the relevant edits that would be awesome.

 

[Some1's_Wasted_Fetus]

This is great. But too many posts by now. If someone could do a new one with all the relevant edits that would be awesome.

I agree. I read the majority of the post from 1 to the 30s but I wish I had bookmarked all the relevant post so I could compile it together. The first couple of pages are people figuring out where the right spot is, where to adjust, where the carotids are, asking how long it takes to pass out etc. In the early 20 pages there are more accounts of a few people trying it, (and I think a few successes since those people have ctb'd). Closer to page 30 is when the more recent modifications with the use of the medicine caps/smaller objects to focus the pressure on one specific point are brought up. I'm sorry for the janky summary but I might go back and bookmark the important parts at some point to compile together later

 

[filtfarfar]

Update: I tried again and folded the empty parts of the bean bags by wrapping them around rubber bands (this way it feels rounder and like an actual bicep and forearm wrapping around my neck). Unfortunately I just can't seem to get myself to pass out. I was practicing on my chair which is probably the first issue. I tightened it as far as it could go, but I guess I was going too slow? I kept it there for as long as I could and I began to feel the sides of my neck pulsating. It was mildly uncomfortable but my neck didn't feel as painful as when I tried yesterday (unless I'm getting used to the pain). I had no head explosion feeling which is a plus. Didn't feel like I was suffocating but felt like my neck was being compressed (idk if that's the right wording).

I had difficulty swallowing when everything was tightened but I could breathe perfectly fine. I felt a little dizzy but it quickly went away. I honestly thought it wasn't working until I looked in the mirror and saw my forehead vein popping out and my face looking "puffy" and a little purple? I quickly released the strap after that. I also saw my neck veins were popping out a little.

Some context: Each time I practice I hold back because it takes 4-5 cranks to really secure the bags. By the last crank everything suddenly tightens so much, and then it feels so tight that I can't crank anymore, but I know I can force myself to tighten it just once more. I'm not sure if that one extra crank is the point of no return which is why I'm hesitating doing it. (Since I can be found during the day). I think I'll try again tonight laying down on the bed and tighten it all the way to see what happens. I'm pretty much ready to go at this point so if I fall off the face of the Earth you'll know it worked/I was found and hospitalized (hopefully the first). If it doesn't work I'll update in the morning

Hi, a long time thread lurker here. Sounds like a great idea to fold the empty parts of the bags once. That way you increase the pressure on the carotid arteries. I think it is better to first secure the bags with gorilla tape before you put the ratchet around your neck (someone mentioned this earlier in the thread). I realize it is hard to determine whether the setup is working or not, because if it works, you may not live to tell. I guess if you start to feel dizzy and vision fades, you can assume the setup is working, hence the bags are pressuring on the correct spots. In that case it should just be a question of increasing the pressure with a few extra cranks and wait.

I wonder if it matters if you crank fast or slow. I saw one thread which said you should crank fairly fast, however, OP does not mention this. I guess a real choke hold would apply the pressure almost instantly, so going to slow might be a disadvantage (it might result in the veins being closed but not the arteries and hence a pressure buildup in the head).

 

[Some1's_Wasted_Fetus]

Hi, a long time thread lurker here. Sounds like a great idea to fold the empty parts of the bags once. That way you increase the pressure on the carotid arteries. I think it is better to first secure the bags with gorilla tape before you put the ratchet around your neck (someone mentioned this earlier in the thread). I realize it is hard to determine whether the setup is working or not, because if it works, you may not live to tell. I guess if you start to feel dizzy and vision fades, you can assume the setup is working, hence the bags are pressuring on the correct spots. In that case it should just be a question of increasing the pressure with a few extra cranks and wait.

I wonder if it matters if you crank fast or slow. I saw one thread which said you should crank fairly fast, however, OP does not mention this. I guess a real choke hold would apply the pressure almost instantly, so going to slow might be a disadvantage (it might result in the veins being closed but not the arteries and hence a pressure buildup in the head).

Thanks for the suggestion! Yeah, I'll definitely have to secure the bags with tape so they stop slipping. The speed is what's confusing me. According to the OP, it can be done at any speed. I was just weary about doing it slow because others mentioned the pressure buildup leading to the "head explosion" feeling and how that would make the ctb less peaceful if you did it too slowly. I figure when I do actually do it, it'll be swift, fast, and I'll apply as much pressure as I need to. I've heard that the amount of pressure varies from person to person (some have thin necks, long necks, thick necks etc.). That also seems to be consistent with the videos I see of choke holds done on multiple people (some people are out within a few seconds, for other people it can take over a minute before they finally pass out). So it's gonna be a matter of finding the sweet spots and seeing how much pressure to apply. Unfortunately small pressure doesn't do anything for ,e so I'm probably going to have to tighten it quite a bit to get myself to pass out. I was hoping I was a lucky person who would only have to apply slight pressure and go peacefully

 

[DespairBeyondRepair]

I tried this and I got a really bad pulsing headache. I don't get how y'all manage to strangle yourselves painlessly.

I was thinking of a partial suspension, so I tried wrapping the belt I had at a certain angle. It compressed the right spot and I could still breath. Within seconds I experienced a pleasant fainting sensation and everything began to go dark. But, I think my struggling body might loosen it. Then I found this method. If you get it right, I think it would feel the same.

 

[Last chance]

If you google 'carotid artery neck location' youll get a lot of images showing you of its location. The Y shaped bit is actually kinda in line with the bottom of your ear. I think a lot of people assume that its next to your throat but its actually further round to the side.

 

[LostSoul1609]

If you google 'carotid artery neck location' youll get a lot of images showing you of its location. The Y shaped bit is actually kinda in line with the bottom of your ear. I think a lot of people assume that its next to your throat but its actually further round to the side.
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This is really helpful.
I've been thinking about stuff to use to compress the arteries and I come up with the idea of using small padlocks locks, they are steel so they can't break and they look like they have the right shape
Amazon product ASIN B08R8H77DD

 

[bea1974]

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[Jemo_]

Seems like a very viable method to me. Ill try it out soon

 

[bea1974]

I bought a ratchet strap (while out on leave from the psych ward lol). No bean bags to be found in local shops but when I get home I'll order some from ebay.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

What's all this about the ratchet straps not having hooks? I just cut the hooks off and now it's just a ratchet strap, right? Help?

I tested it on a water bottle and it squeezed the fuck out of that, what's the problem with the hook ratchets?

 

[Last chance]

What's all this about the ratchet straps not having hooks? I just cut the hooks off and now it's just a ratchet strap, right? Help?

I tested it on a water bottle and it squeezed the fuck out of that, what's the problem with the hook ratchets?

I think the not having hooks on the strap is just a comfort thing.

if you cut the hooks off then the strap will no longer make a loop. The strap needs to be attached to the ratchet at one end.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

I think the not having hooks on the strap is just a comfort thing.

if you cut the hooks off then the strap will no longer make a loop. The strap needs to be attached to the ratchet at one end.

Yeah, I just tie it.

I'm going to become a vegetable lol.

 

[WatermelonMel]

What's all this about the ratchet straps not having hooks? I just cut the hooks off and now it's just a ratchet strap, right? Help?

I tested it on a water bottle and it squeezed the fuck out of that, what's the problem with the hook ratchets?

Hook, no hook it doesn't matter, only the pressure from the ratchet does.

I chose no hook since I didn't see a reason for there to be one, but someone else said they used the hook on the door and then used that as a pressure point so I guess there's some uses for it

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Hook, no hook it doesn't matter, only the pressure from the ratchet does.

I chose no hook since I didn't see a reason for there to be one, but someone else said they used the hook on the door and then used that as a pressure point so I guess there's some uses for it

Yeah, the problem is that my shitty knot with the strap is crucial for the neck to stay strapped in. That's why ppl prefer to have an endless ratchet, as it comes with the strap already secured to the ratchet device (unlike the hook, where you have to cut that shit off and just use the straps).

 

[landojustwannactb]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

What disappoints me w this "method" is that it isnt 100% full proof. Its just a theory. A theory that even the late poster couldnt really help us out with. He dint even show us the proper ways to do it. Just pictures and gifs n vids of people passing out from rear naked chokes/blood chokes. This is either a joke or hes just trolling. Heck we cant even make sure the reported 2 who "successfully" ctb really pulled this off, even op himself. If they really did pull this off then their the only ones who did it right from what i know of hundreds that tried and failed. Its been years. No update whether someone else ctbd w this. Im gonna be frank. Id rather hang. It might hurt sure but heck at least im sure ill be out like a light.

 

[WatermelonMel]

What disappoints me w this "method" is that it isnt 100% full proof. Its just a theory. A theory that even the late poster couldnt really help us out with. He dint even show us the proper ways to do it. Just pictures and gifs n vids of people passing out from rear naked chokes/blood chokes. This is either a joke or hes just trolling. Heck we cant even make sure the reported 2 who "successfully" ctb really pulled this off, even op himself. If they really did pull this off then their the only ones who did it right from what i know of hundreds that tried and failed. Its been years. No update whether someone else ctbd w this. Im gonna be frank. Id rather hang. It might hurt sure but heck at least im sure ill be out like a light.

It's as full proof as hanging is, they both do the same thing in the end if properly done, this one is just more controlled

Lookup "ratchet strap carotid artery suicide", there's a few documented

 

[landojustwannactb]

It's as full proof as hanging is, they both do the same thing in the end if properly done, this one is just more controlled

Lookup "ratchet strap carotid artery suicide", there's a few documented

Then please by any means u must teach me how to do it the right way. Ive been pressuring and pressing my carotids. I get tingling sensations but no where near passing out. I still havent done it with the strap yet tho but i wanna know how im supposed to feel when its done right. Unfortunately i havent been anywhere close to that. I just really wanna go and ctb but to be honest i dont think i have the cajones to hang. Sometimes i do sometimes i dont

 

[LostSoul1609]

I still have some difficulties in finding the right spots, I've been reading the PPH chapter on it and it does help in figuring out how it works but I still can't feel what I would imagine as the right sensation. How do I find the Y part of the carotid?

 

[mykki]

So i have been practising past week and i can pass out pretty reliably just by using my fingers!
I realized that tilting your head backwards (as if when you are sitting on a chair) makes it way easier to trial-and-error the spots. Only thing that's left right now is actually making the damn contraption >.<

 

[mykki]

What disappoints me w this "method" is that it isnt 100% full proof. Its just a theory. A theory that even the late poster couldnt really help us out with. He dint even show us the proper ways to do it. Just pictures and gifs n vids of people passing out from rear naked chokes/blood chokes. This is either a joke or hes just trolling. Heck we cant even make sure the reported 2 who "successfully" ctb really pulled this off, even op himself. If they really did pull this off then their the only ones who did it right from what i know of hundreds that tried and failed. Its been years. No update whether someone else ctbd w this. Im gonna be frank. Id rather hang. It might hurt sure but heck at least im sure ill be out like a light.

if you pass out its because of you cutting off bloodflow? So if you are doing that by attaching a strap with pressure against your neck i dont see why not. Allthough I am a bit scared of the whole thing slipping off or something after i pass out. Becoming a vegetable does not sound appealing.

 

[landojustwannactb]

if you pass out its because of you cutting off bloodflow? So if you are doing that by attaching a strap with pressure against your neck i dont see why not. Allthough I am a bit scared of the whole thing slipping off or something after i pass out. Becoming a vegetable does not sound appealing.

Its not as easy as youd think. Been doing it trial and error for some time but was unfortunate. Once uve applied enough pressure w the ratchet it is somewhat impossible for the padding u wish to use to come undone or slip out. So idk i might just have a stubborn neck or smthng lol

 

[mykki]

Its not as easy as youd think. Been doing it trial and error for some time but was unfortunate. Once uve applied enough pressure w the ratchet it is somewhat impossible for the padding u wish to use to come undone or slip out. So idk i might just have a stubborn neck or smthng lol

Maybe it would make more sense for this method to be more of a bonus to a slightly more unpleasant one. Like passing out near a lake or something

 

[landojustwannactb]

Maybe it would make more sense for this method to be more of a bonus to a slightly more unpleasant one. Like passing out near a lake or something

Do as u seem fit for a great exit. I suggest u get the method right before going out in a public space to save time. If u do plan on going outside to do this make damn sure the exiting process is never interrupted. U dont wanna end up a vegetable

 

[verloren]

Hi, i created a tread about night night in a different way, maybe you want to check out

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/night-night-using-screw-clamps.67110/