Does this method require a larger surface area pressing on the carotids? I've been trying to locate the points with my thumb and finger but I just keep getting the head pounding feeling instead. Only once did I manage to get a slight feeling of blacking out around the edges of my eyes but I can't seem to find back the exact spot to produce that feeling again.
I think I found my carotids. The pulsing blobs, like people said... And after I'd pressed them for a few seconds, I felt kinda aroused. But I didn't get dizzy or find my vision start fading. Maybe I didn't hold it for long enough. I didn't want to accidentally make myself black out whilst there were other people in the house.
I'm having trouble understanding where my cratoid arteries are. Help?
Wikipedia is being too confusing.
Wikipedia is being too confusing.
Airhead
Member
- Sep 12, 2018
- 8
I have the same problem. I've been trying for a day now on and off, found as much information as I could about the location of the carotid arteries but no luck.
Rose
ad finitum
- Nov 11, 2018
- 96
I've found success with the spot almost directly below the very back of my jaw on each side of my neck, it's higher up than my adam's apple.
I've only managed to do it when I've been sitting up so far (still trying to figure out how to do it lying down). I use three fingers on each hand, pushing in vertically (to the neck, you want it to be tall, not wide) on the spots where you feel the pulsing is strongest. For me, it manifests very quickly, starting with light-headedness and going into a very quick black-out of all vision, from the edges of my vision inwards. If you aren't getting promising results in ~5 second, position your fingers slightly differently. In my experience, the spots on either side of your neck might be (very slightly) different, sometimes you may only have to adjust one side if the other feels like it's right. Pay close attention to the feeling in your fingers, it takes some practice but you should be able to start telling if you're hitting the right spots.
I'll try to remember to update if I find anything extra while trying to get it to work lying down. Hope this helps someone.
I've only managed to do it when I've been sitting up so far (still trying to figure out how to do it lying down). I use three fingers on each hand, pushing in vertically (to the neck, you want it to be tall, not wide) on the spots where you feel the pulsing is strongest. For me, it manifests very quickly, starting with light-headedness and going into a very quick black-out of all vision, from the edges of my vision inwards. If you aren't getting promising results in ~5 second, position your fingers slightly differently. In my experience, the spots on either side of your neck might be (very slightly) different, sometimes you may only have to adjust one side if the other feels like it's right. Pay close attention to the feeling in your fingers, it takes some practice but you should be able to start telling if you're hitting the right spots.
I'll try to remember to update if I find anything extra while trying to get it to work lying down. Hope this helps someone.
Roger
I Liked Ike
- May 11, 2019
- 972
New boy here.
A few questions.
1."ctb" ??? Cease to breathe maybe ? (Edit: Got it - Catch the Bus)
2. I can locate the pulses in my neck - but is it necessary to differentiate between carotid arteries and jugular veins ?
I have used a hawser laid rope, about 15mm (1/2 inch) diameter with a hangmans noose. The advantage of this type of knot, with three or four turns on this type of rope is that there is quite a lot of friction which I can pull tight and will stay tight without any sort of suspension. This is ok for tests, but I imagine that the body thrashing in a serious attempt would loosen the noose, so I would choose a partial suspension position. I think that's what Rudolf Hess did in Spandau back in the late 1980's.
A few questions.
1."ctb" ??? Cease to breathe maybe ? (Edit: Got it - Catch the Bus)
2. I can locate the pulses in my neck - but is it necessary to differentiate between carotid arteries and jugular veins ?
- What would happen if you only blocked the arteries on one side ?
- To help me understand this method properly, am I right in thinking that the purpose of the bags/padding is to concentrate ligature pressure on the arteries whilst avoiding too much pressure on the trachea, thus allowing breathing to continue - is that right ?
I have used a hawser laid rope, about 15mm (1/2 inch) diameter with a hangmans noose. The advantage of this type of knot, with three or four turns on this type of rope is that there is quite a lot of friction which I can pull tight and will stay tight without any sort of suspension. This is ok for tests, but I imagine that the body thrashing in a serious attempt would loosen the noose, so I would choose a partial suspension position. I think that's what Rudolf Hess did in Spandau back in the late 1980's.
A gas mask has an inlet valve (to which a filter is fitted) and an exhaust valve, allowing breathing in and out. Seems to me that if you attached a helium or nitrogen hose to the inlet valve, having removed the filter canister, then you would be able to breath comfortably ?
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bigj75
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- Sep 1, 2018
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- Mar 16, 2019
- 973
Yes. You want to stop blood flow in the carotids but not the jugulars. The carotids carry most of the blood to the brain, but not all, so if the jugular veins are also blocked, you will get a build up of pressure in your head (as you mention later in your post).
Not much I guess.
Yes - spot on.
Your assessment of the pressure in the head is correct. Not sure about the risk of a stroke.
I would be concerned about your testing setup. If you are using a high friction rope/knot that may loosen slowly over time, then there's the risk of passing out and the brain being deprived of oxygen for a period of time sufficient to cause brain damage without actually dying (potential vegetative state). For testing, you need something that, when released (after passing out) will result in the removal of pressure immediately and restore blood flow to the brain.
Partial works in the same way as this method in that the aim is to block the carotids, but doesn't require bags/padding. For this method, in order to position the bags correctly and ensure that they don't move, it is recommended to at least start by lying on your back and use a ratchet strap.
If you want to try and use bags/padding with the Partial method, then I would suggest positioning them first and using a suitable adhesive tape to keep them in position, and maybe consider using some cloth between the rope and bags so that any movement from convulsions does not cause the bags to move. Most people would say the bags are unnecessary for Partial, and it could be argued that they increase the risk of failure.
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This is going to sound stupid but are there any adjustments you have to make if you're a small person under 5feet/152cm? I'm scared that no matter how I try it I'm just going to do it improperly, I try to practice but i don't get dizzy or anything. I feel both of the blobs too, although for some reason the left blob feels bigger than the right one? Idk. I keep counting 10-15 seconds and nothing happens. Sometimes my neck or my eyes feel a little tight or weird but that's about it. I've been looking at diagrams and following instructions to locate both of my internal carotid arteries. Idk what I'm doing wrong.
Ivenocare
Student
- Mar 31, 2019
- 194
I am not doing this method, but I have practiced partial hanging. It took me awhile to feel warm and fuzzy feeling and convulsions. Have you tried different regions of arteries on neck like lower part of neck higher? i couldnt get feeling from high up for example but can from lower.
the blobs seemed to pump more evenly when i moved my hands downward, but then when I pressed them I would just get a crazy amount of pressure in my face... pretty sure that's not what you're supposed to feel?
Ivenocare
Student
- Mar 31, 2019
- 194
yeah i had that feeling in my above area, keep trying different areas; it wont be the same for everyone. I get high pressure in certain parts of my lower area, make sure to find exact area and remember it.
I'm getting so frustrated doing this. I know I have to do it but the more I press on the wrong spot the more I'm scared I won't be able to succeed. I thought this was supposed to be simple, am I just stupid?
Ivenocare
Student
- Mar 31, 2019
- 194
Well it took me 7 failed partial hanging attempts to find mine if that makes you feel any better... With that being said you may find it sooner. Also I cannot make myself feel dizzy with my hands; is there any way you can use something maybe similar/ same thing as what you will do for this method? I am using scarf but i assume that wouldnt help with this unless maybe finding the area, then once you find the area you can you this method? but I d not know what else to say unfortunatly sorry.
Oh gosh, it makes me feel better but at the same it doesn't. I'm glad I'm not the only one having difficulties but I'm really scared of failing because I'm on a 2 week deadline. Thanks for the help though. I'll figure it out. I'm still watching videos and looking at diagrams.
Ivenocare
Student
- Mar 31, 2019
- 194
Was in a similar boat, this was my one week. Now it is over, regardless I hope you find peace.
I don't remember if this was posted in the thread already, but i have a diagram that shows where the sweet spot is. I misunderstood - I thought you were just supposed to press in the internal carotid artery, but what you're supposed to do is find the area where the internal and external carotid artery split, called the carotid bifurcation, and aim to press in on that bifurcation. That's the sweet spot.
Apparently the sensation of feeling a lot of pressure in your head happens when you compress the jugular vein which is further back.
Also have this:
Apparently the sensation of feeling a lot of pressure in your head happens when you compress the jugular vein which is further back.
Also have this:
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snowman626
Mage
- Jan 28, 2019
- 547
I find that using the paper towel roll folded in half wrap around neck make me feel less head pressure. Probably because it imitates the arms and get closer to the sweet spot. I dont think using bean bags is a good method, most ppl seem to have trouble
snowman626
Mage
- Jan 28, 2019
- 547
I just thought of another idea... how about a paper towel roll? I think it's able to replicate the shape and feel of the human arm pretty decently, as if someone is doing the blood choke on me. I'm thinking about using this method myself.
the middle of the roll would go on the center of my neck, the sides of the roll will compress my carotid arteries. to apply pressure I just wrap a long sleeve shirt around the roll so I can tie that behind my neck.
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See above. I hope that explains it well
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I compiled a bunch of diagrams and other resources (including this thread) if anyone's interested. Might want to save everything because I'm considering deleting my account before I CTB, but I hope it helps anyone in the meantime:
Sorry about the double replies but I finally found my sweet spot I'm so excited!!!!! I was getting really scared I'd have to try one of the less pleasant methods but I did it. It was a little harder for my because I'm kind of a small person and I also had a dumb choking accident from sex which made it harder (partner squeezed the sides of my neck and made for a "pop" sound, think it fucked up my hyoid and pushed the arteries in or something, i don't know, but my neck has always felt noticeably different since then). The diagrams I had really helped. I didn't even know I had it when I pressed in with the rolled up socks I planned to use - I would just press around and watch out for too much head pressure (means you're compressing the jugular veins) or accidentally pressing my windpipe. I only knew I found it because I started pressing and only felt my lips feeling "tight" - figured it was a good sign and held the socks in place. Not long after they started to tingle, and then I felt a bit of eye pressure, then I felt noticeable light headed very quickly. As soon as I felt light headed I realized I'd found it and released the socks right away before I passed out. Soooo happy
accidentaldeath
Student
- May 29, 2018
- 107
I just felt the head dizziness for the first time, when I released I fell as lot of blood went into my head again, so I think I found the sweet spot more or less. The problem is I can't get to pass out with own hands, just feel some weird sensation.
omsoc
omsoc
- May 8, 2019
- 27
Definitely going to use this method. I've been looking for a painless and fast method for the longest time and, this seems perfect. Thank you.
freetobe
Member
- May 17, 2019
- 5
New here and been researching methods. Not felt much when putting pressure on carotids with fingers, but slipped a chord round my neck and twisted it and felt like I was going. Had this rush of euphoria and it felt powerful. Going to experiment again tomorrow.
Hi Kooz
If you're still with is thank you for the info. 2questions.
Will I still be able to "breathe" or will I gasp for air?
In comparison to partial suspension, is this method better, easier or less painful.
Thank You
If you're still with is thank you for the info. 2questions.
Will I still be able to "breathe" or will I gasp for air?
In comparison to partial suspension, is this method better, easier or less painful.
Thank You
partial differs only in the fact that we create pressure instead of rope with improvised means. breathe in both cases, the trachea does not overlap. (we are for peaceful care)
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