Resource substances deadly overdose (studies/stats/charts)

[rotciv]

Study on various categories of substances, number of cases and mortality

Amitriptyline and doxepin as the deadliest. Not counting with Amoxapine, Desipramine and Imipramine because of their small sample size (their LD50s are twice as high as well)

 

[astamyr]

Here's another research:

Toxicity of antidepressants: rates of suicide relative to prescribing and non-fatal overdose | The British Journal of Psychiatry | Cambridge Core

Toxicity of antidepressants: rates of suicide relative to prescribing and non-fatal overdose - Volume 196 Issue 5

www.cambridge.org

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

suddenly glad i don't have access to any of them.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

suddenly glad i don't have access to any of them.

LOL I wish I had access to certain ones!!

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

LOL I wish I had access to certain ones!!

oh. do you mean to support sn?

 

[ThisIsLife]

suddenly glad i don't have access to any of them.

Why ?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

oh. do you mean to support sn?

My preferred methods are CO (this one is ready to go) but I would also consider amitriptyline, or morphine / fent. If I could get access to any of those. SN is certainly a good way, but the process incl fasting and possible vomiting isn't what I want to go through.

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

Why ?

failure rates.

My preferred methods are CO

mine as well but have to wait til late fall. no way i can try it in this heat. i watched a lot of documentaries on f. if i had more energy and could walk better i'd fly back to the states or m and try to get some there.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

failure rates.

mine as well but have to wait til late fall. no way i can try it in this heat. i watched a lot of documentaries on f. if i had more energy and could walk better i'd fly back to the states or m and try to get some there.

LOL welcome to the club! I actually have the same problem with the summer heat and the CO method ^^ That's why other no-heat-dependent methods would be nice.

 

[befree]

related thread:

Amitriptyline guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Amitriptyline guide "Tricyclic antidepressants General info Tricyclic antidepressants are psychotropic drugs with a general mood-lifting...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[ThisIsLife]

failure rates.

Legit concern, i saw a post a few days ago where a guy said he tried 2x the "lethal dose" of Amitriptyline and survived. I have noticed that "lethal dose", when it comes to LD50 is not reliable when planning to CTB, because the human body can sometimes be very surprising at dealing with drugs and work in mysterious ways to neutralize it.

When one plans on ending himself with drugs or toxic substances, one should aim at the most lethal stuff they can get their hands on and take 5 to 10 times the LD50 if they want to succeed.

 

[rotciv]

failure rates.

mine as well but have to wait til late fall. no way i can try it in this heat. i watched a lot of documentaries on f. if i had more energy and could walk better i'd fly back to the states or m and try to get some there.

And what about the failure rates of CO?

they are well documented here..

 

[astamyr]

Seems like I should add this

TCA/TCA+propranolol is my preferred method after research. The main factor is that you need a lot of time, 24-36 hours for 100% certainty. I'm sure I can provide it for myself, don't even think about trying if you can be found at this time.

However, I will not recommend the method, do your own research, I have read people (not only on this forum) found and saved from overdose. Some talk about the peacefulness of the method (fell asleep and woke up in the hospital days later), others about irreversible damage after treatment and severe anxiety while waiting for amitriptyline to take effect.

Just wanted to warn you if you're reading this. Nobody wants failure, or worse, permanent damage. Your decision is your responsibility.

wish you the best

 

[rotciv]

Legit concern, i saw a post a few days ago where a guy said he tried 2x the "lethal dose" of Amitriptyline and survived. I have noticed that "lethal dose", when it comes to LD50 is not reliable when planning to CTB, because the human body can sometimes be very surprising at dealing with drugs and work in mysterious ways to neutralize it.

When one plans on ending himself with drugs or toxic substances, one should aim at the most lethal stuff they can get their hands on and take 5 to 10 times the LD50 if they want to succeed.

It's a matter of probabilities, lethal dose is an average displayed on a non-linear graph

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

And what about the failure rates of CO?

well all figures from different studies are different. the lowest i've seen was a 60% success rate but others reported close to 80.

 

[dialogos]

Amoxapine is quite interesting, I'll read up on that