Some people are just selfish with their method of ctb

[LaVieEnRose]

I've cut the first one out. The rest are actually not recommended but still accepted.

I mean, some user might suggest those or approve of those but as far as the community goes I wouldn't say they are deemed acceptable.

We can sympathize with and understand desperation but we shouldn't pretend that that justifies these acts (and yes, people will do what they do).

Beyond the ethical question those ideas are completely stupid as well.

For one thing, if you choose those methods because you enjoy endangering other people, you can't enjoy being a sociopath if you're dead.

And secondly, anything involving a vehicle is stupid too. To illustrate that I recall one case from 2015: a woman driving on the highway deliberately went over the median and crashed into another car (the specific details may be different). The man driving that car, a father of 3, wss killed but she survived. So now she was on the hook for his death. Can't say that improved her life

 

[lukas19]

I've seen too many jumpers (on livegore.com) land on people to ever consider that unless it was Beachy Head

 

[bobblong]

Terrorist suicide bombings can't be included as ctb though , bc they brainwash their new recruits into killing themselves . Like ISIS for example.

 

[Twoped538]

Normally, by far most (or all) of the guilt lies on those who deny the right to a more peaceful suicide rather than the one who killed themselves with one of the more brutal methods.

I agree. Perhaps it is even the main reason shit like that happens.

 

[MoonlitNight]

I mean, some user might suggest those or approve of those but as far as the community goes I wouldn't say they are deemed acceptable.

We can sympathize with and understand desperation but we shouldn't pretend that that justifies these acts (and yes, people will do what they do).

Beyond the ethical question those ideas are completely stupid as well.

For one thing, if you choose those methods because you enjoy endangering other people, you can't enjoy being a sociopath if you're dead.

And secondly, anything involving a vehicle is stupid too. To illustrate that I recall one case from 2015: a woman driving on the highway deliberately went over the median and crashed into another car (the specific details may be different). The man driving that car, a father of 3, wss killed but she survived. So now she was on the hook for his death. Can't say that improved her life

I felt the sharp pain of the mother. I can't imagine that happening to my partner.
You worded it out just right, thank you. I appreciate it.

 

[SilentSadness]

I think anyone who chooses a horrific method like jumping in front of a car or train has gone through so much trauma that they understandably want to leave at all costs. It's not their fault after all that this inherently pro-life world restricts ctb methods, and I would place the fault on the pro-lifers rather than the victims. I seriously doubt anyone would choose such a method if there was a peaceful one available.

 

[heLLishLandscape]

kind of an interesting point to that is statistically, women are more likely to attempt in non-violent ways because they think about the people who would find them/have to deal with them. even until the end, we think of everybody else lol. men tend to have a higher success rate in their attempts because they choose violent ways of going, which could be walking into traffic or train. i personally don't agree with those methods, because i feel like the person who is brought into your plan without their consent doesn't deserve to feel the guilt or trauma.

 

[MoonlitNight]

kind of an interesting point to that is statistically, women are more likely to attempt in non-violent ways because they think about the people who would find them/have to deal with them. even until the end, we think of everybody else lol. men tend to have a higher success rate in their attempts because they choose violent ways of going, which could be walking into traffic or train. i personally don't agree with those methods, because i feel like the person who is brought into your plan without their consent doesn't deserve to feel the guilt or trauma.

That's what I was thinking as well when i asked these questions

Just because a person went through shit throughout their lives, it doesn't justify ruining someone else's lives. Albeit the methods are given are rare, it has happened and people have been hurt.

I will never understand the people who try to justify not thinking for others just because of what they went through.

It just doesn't give them a right to do this to someone else! It's not just trauma, think about the loss of a loved one for the spouse/family/friends of the people who died. You might even be the reason they develop an exit plan too.
Thank you for responding, the first person i used here is just to refer to the people who committed.