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Anonymoussn

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SN is not a toy. Also it isn't measured in millilitres, so it's not clear how much your dosage was, but if you intend to try this again, please ensure that you research and don't do anything silly like this time.

Either go hard or go home. Know what's a better way of crying for help than consuming poisonous substances? An actual cry for help! Evidently you probably need some help, so now that you are receiving some treatment, I would hope that you've now got access to what you need and don't need to make dangerous cries for help like this.

Please do let this be a lesson.
 
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Brick In The Wall

Brick In The Wall

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I don't see this as spreading fear. Everyone should be able to read the guides, and upon doing so should see this was not following the protocol. This was clearly distress and self harm. OP is young, so it should not be a shock he reached out in such a way. Part of why we are here offer a safe place. Why has this community become so cold to "attention seeking"? Self harm is a common occurrence here, and a lot of people here are lacking love and attention in real life.
Thank you for this, I've seen the shift happening as well. If we lose our compassion we'll lose a large part of what makes this place so special.
 
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Checkmate3

Checkmate3

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I'm still unsure as to why the OP decided to share this, and the account itself contains inconsistencies.

To emphasize that people will choke on their vomit after taking SN of course. (sarcasm)

Whatever. SN might not be a "gold standard", but it's a .999 fine silver, if you do everything right.
 
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Taking it day by day
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Yay. Another SN thread.
I don't see this as spreading fear. Everyone should be able to read the guides, and upon doing so should see this was not following the protocol. This was clearly distress and self harm. OP is young, so it should not be a shock he reached out in such a way. Part of why we are here offer a safe place. Why has this community become so cold to "attention seeking"? Self harm is a common occurrence here, and a lot of people here are lacking love and attention in real life.

Because this is becoming a daily occurrence with members using SN as a vehicle to garner clicks and views for their threads.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
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i know it upset me to read because I just got over being scared of sn

You were upset. And you commented and gently told the OP that it was unfair to induce fear. Then you backed down from your position by asking others to try to be nice, we don't know what the OP is going through. I gotta respectfully hand that back. Little girls who speak up and defend their boundaries get told to be nice.

My gut response was that I felt attacked, like arrows had been shot at me, and I spoke out about it. I'm not going to back down from that. If I do, then I lower my defenses against listening to my gut the next time someone does a covert or overt attack. Personally, I wasn't aggressive with the OP, I was assertive. I made it clear I didn't like what they did, and others are doing the same. You did at first as well. I don't applaud retaliatory attacks, but I do applaud calling BS and not taking it.

From a wider perspective, any predator can read a thread like this and know who is and isn't likely to be an easy mark and liable to give a green light to bad behavior. There are predators who are drawn to this forum because it's a victim-rich environment. They love PMs, btw, just as an advance warning to anyone who isn't savvy and self-protective.
 
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esse_est_percipi

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To emphasize that people will choke on their vomit after taking SN of course.
well, that's nice to know.

If that's why they created this thread, why wasn't vomiting mentioned in the title?
 
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MartyByrde

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For a "supportive community" I see a lot of members treating OP with disrespect, insults and assumptions. Some members are so stuck on SN as a near-perfect method, without any recognition of the very nature of being human, i.e. human error.
 
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For a "supportive community" I see a lot of members treating OP with disrespect, insults and assumptions. Some members are so stuck on SN as a near-perfect method, without any recognition of the very nature of being human, i.e. human error.

Ok that's a fair point. Apologies to the OP. I found the actions and described intent very confusing.
 
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esse_est_percipi

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treating OP with disrespect, insults
I didn't see anyone insulting the OP.

if we're going to start talking about insults and disrespect, which are sometimes just negative subjective reactions, I felt disrespected and insulted by the thread itself.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

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Loving the shaming comments toward anyone who was displeased about the post and dares to say so.

We got some

Images 52

followed by

Images 70

and rounded out with

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bravotess

bravotess

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To emphasize that people will choke on their vomit after taking SN of course.

This part has me shook! I'm planning on CBT with SN tomorrow morning. I DO NOT want to die choking on vomit. Fuck.
 
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Checkmate3

Checkmate3

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This part has me shook! I'm planning on CBT with SN tomorrow morning. I DO NOT want to die choking on vomit. Fuck.

I was sarcastic, it felt like a typical fearmongering to me.
 
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Lupgevif

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This part has me shook! I'm planning on CBT with SN tomorrow morning. I DO NOT want to die choking on vomit. Fuck.
That's why you start the antiemetics regimen beforehand, which OP didn't.
 
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This part has me shook! I'm planning on CBT with SN tomorrow morning. I DO NOT want to die choking on vomit. Fuck.
Firstly, if you lie on your front/side the risk of this will be reduced a lot. Secondly, bear in mind that OP doesn't even remember this happening, and said it happened whilst they were unconscious. If you're unconscious then it hardly matters if you're choking, does it?
 
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LastRide

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This part has me shook! I'm planning on CBT with SN tomorrow morning. I DO NOT want to die choking on vomit. Fuck.
You won't if you follow the correct protocol !
 
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Mm80

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For a "supportive community" I see a lot of members treating OP with disrespect, insults and assumptions. Some members are so stuck on SN as a near-perfect method, without any recognition of the very nature of being human, i.e. human error.
Im not into the disrespect i simply pointed out that i think the op wanted attention and that there is nothing wrong with that.
We need a balance between compassion and honesty. A bit of tactful honesty could actually help the op.
There was no human error involved as the op didnt appear to even try to follow any sn method.
Human error would be more like a measurement miscalculation or getting the anti enemic regime timings wrong.
I hope the op reaches out and gets support he or she clearly needs, all i said was that this wasnt an education about sn. Pls bear in mind that there are people considering this method and if nobody speaks up and is just supportive of every post, it may put someone off what would have been a peaceful ending of their life.
 
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bravotess

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If you're unconscious then it hardly matters if you're choking, does it?
I landed on SN partly because it seemed...I don't know...dignified? I want it to look and feel like I'm sleeping. I'm literally preparing, on the outside, like it's a date. Shaved, tanned, got my hair done. Bizarre. Crazy. Stupid. I know.
 
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Lupgevif

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Pls bear in mind that there are people considering this method and if nobody speaks up and is just supportive of every post, it may put someone off what would have been a peaceful ending of their life.
If someone gets discouraged by what is clear misinformation they didn't do the proper research and weren't ready to act in the first place.
 
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esse_est_percipi

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If someone gets discouraged by what is clear misinformation they didn't do the proper research and weren't ready to act in the first place.
It may not be as clear-cut as this.
Some people's state of mind may not allow for them to make fine distinctions between clear misinformation and proper research, and they may get discouraged by posts which cause fear despite having done proper research. It doesn't necessarily mean they 'weren't ready'.
 
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If someone gets discouraged by what is clear misinformation they didn't do the proper research and weren't ready to act in the first place.
If someone gets discouraged by what is clear misinformation they didn't do the proper research and weren't ready to act in the first place.
Thats true but then your statement lacks any compassion. On one hand its...lets be fully supportive of the op and ignore that this was not the way to use sn method.
But anyone who is influenced by his or her experience and put off, its their own stupid fault for not researching it themselves and listening to others.
Again its about balance. Op needs empathy as they were obviously in a dark place to be doing this, but also the folks reading it need a bit of truth and reassurance that this is not a typical experience and they should still look into the method if they wish as its normally peaceful.
 
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icanhasnick

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And even if it doesn't foster fear and doubt in anyone, I still do not buy that this thread was made in good spirit.
"Showing compassion" for this would be not showing compassion towards those harmed by this type of inconsiderate fearmongering behavior.
 
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If someone gets discouraged by what is clear misinformation they didn't do the proper research and weren't ready to act in the first place.
Are you implying that I'm going to use this as an excuse not to go through with it tomorrow?
 
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muffin222

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*sigh* what will it take to get people to realize that taking poison as a form of self harm without the intention of dying is a bad idea? And, what will it take for them to stop posting about it on here like they're shocked and stunned by the fact that they ended up in the hospital? I don't get it. Your experience was traumatic because you created a blatantly traumatic outcome for yourself.

No anti-emetics, no preparation, no antacids, and no real intent to die. We're happy you're still alive to tell the tale, of course, but... what did you expect would happen?
 
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And even if it doesn't foster fear and doubt in anyone, I still do not buy that this thread was made in good spirit.
"Showing compassion" for this would be not showing compassion towards those harmed by this type of inconsiderate fearmongering behavior.
My personal view is that op didnt mean any harm or to scare anyone, thats just the vibe i get, but you could be right i think its impossible to be sure.
 
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Lupgevif

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Are you implying that I'm going to use this as an excuse not to go through with it tomorrow?
No? I am saying that you should attempt only when you know plenty about the method, as to minimize the risks of failing and ending up hurt and incapacitated. If you get discouraged by someone who did not perform the act properly, you probably don't know enough to go through as safely as possible.
 
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fat feet

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Yay. Another SN thread.


Because this is becoming a daily occurrence with members using SN as a vehicle to garner clicks and views for their threads.
The is really unfortunate and sad.
 
bravotess

bravotess

I'ma jump ship now before I sink slow
Aug 8, 2020
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No? I am saying that you should attempt only when you know plenty about the method, as to minimize the risks of failing and ending up hurt and incapacitated. If you get discouraged by someone who did not perform the act properly, you probably don't know enough to go through as safely as possible.
You know jack shit about my preparedness.
 
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muffin222

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Also, when are people going to realize that this is the Internet? It's not a therapist's office or support group. Not everyone is going to agree with every single post. If OP wants 100% emotional support, they should think twice before posting on an anonymous forum. I don't see anyone being outright malicious in this thread. OP chose to post this thread on the Internet using their own free will in the hopes of getting responses from posters on here.

They're getting responses- just not the ones they may have wanted or intended. That's the Internet for you. No one is obligated to be compassionate or lovey-dovey with every poster just because it's considered the "right" thing to do, especially with blatantly reckless behavior like the type demonstrated in this thread. OP put it out there to get responses. People are responding with their opinions. I fail to see the issue.
 
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