SN painfulness

[rora]

i recently came to know of a case where the person who consumed SN complained of extreme 'chest pain' and a 'stabbing' sensation in the upper stomach region. strangely they seemed to have puked about thrice, but still ended up dying.

i was wondering what the reason for this could be, considering the relatively better ranking SN has, in terms of a peaceful ctb. i have no idea if this person had taken any antiemetics or benzos tho. so could that be a possible reason for the extreme pain?

nevertheless, i can't take my mind off the possibility of extreme pain, as i have very low pain tolerance. the idea of it throws me off. so despite taking benzos, will i still suffer pain?

 

[TimetoGo!]

i recently came to know of a case where the person who consumed SN complained of extreme 'chest pain' and a 'stabbing' sensation in the upper stomach region. strangely they seemed to have puked about thrice, but still ended up dying.

i was wondering what the reason for this could be, considering the relatively better ranking SN has, in terms of a peaceful ctb. i have no idea if this person had taken any antiemetics or benzos tho. so could that be a possible reason for the extreme pain?

nevertheless, i can't take my mind off the possibility of extreme pain, as i have very low pain tolerance. the idea of it throws me off. so despite taking benzos, will i still suffer pain?

No one can give you a clear answer on this……anyone and everyone can react differently due to a magnitude of reasons.

Extremely scary gamble unfortunately

 

[DecisionToLeave]

I've been unsure about what to expect after drinking SN. Some people seem calm, without intense suffering, while others report extreme discomfort. Maybe it's related to individual body constitution?

 

[losing hope]

I'd guess that it was some kind of heart complication?

SN is known to increase BPM from a resting rate of 60 to 150+ If this carries on for a few minutes with someone with a weak heart, it is bound to cause unintended issues. Like a cardiac arrest, or heart attack.

Any idea how old the subject was & what their health was like BEFORE ingesting SN?

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I'd guess that it was some kind of heart complication?

SN is known to increase BPM from a resting rate of 60 to 150+ If this carries on for a few minutes with someone with a weak heart, it is bound to cause unintended issues. Like a cardiac arrest, or heart attack.

Any idea how old the subject was & what their health was like BEFORE ingesting SN?

Sounds like Angina, associated symptom with hypotension (low blood pressure) along side shortness of breath, the norm for sn.

Ah well, I'm a dead man then due to my heart issue but I already knew that for a while.

to add to this, is it known if they had any gastrointestinal issues or if possible, how much sn they took.

nevertheless, i can't take my mind off the possibility of extreme pain, as i have very low pain tolerance. the idea of it throws me off. so despite taking benzos, will i still suffer pain?

That is something that can't be guaranteed regarding pain and what you'll feel but it's possible for the sedative effects of the benzos might mask the symptoms of hypoxia and metabolic acidosis caused by the SN and possibly exacerbate respiratory failure but this is just something I've theorized due to the meds that have been found by people who took sn and ctb with it and looking at the interactions between them.

 

[Gonnerr]

If you can get opiod , that might help with pain.

I got hydromorphone that hopefully will help when or if go with SN method.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

i recently came to know of a case where the person who consumed SN complained of extreme 'chest pain' and a 'stabbing' sensation in the upper stomach region. strangely they seemed to have puked about thrice, but still ended up dying.

i was wondering what the reason for this could be, considering the relatively better ranking SN has, in terms of a peaceful ctb. i have no idea if this person had taken any antiemetics or benzos tho. so could that be a possible reason for the extreme pain?

nevertheless, i can't take my mind off the possibility of extreme pain, as i have very low pain tolerance. the idea of it throws me off. so despite taking benzos, will i still suffer pain?

Do you have a source for this?

 

[losing hope]

If you can get opiod , that might help with pain.

I got hydromorphone that hopefully will help when or if go with SN method.

how would you adminster the opiods & won't that increase the chances of nausea/vomiting? Especially if you have no opiods tolorenance?

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Do you have a source for this?

well considering OP stated that they don't know if the person took AEs or benzos then it might to be that OP saw this sn ctb on an article somewhere and doesn't have anymore details than they've presented.

 

[TimetoGo!]

If you can get opiod , that might help with pain.

I got hydromorphone that hopefully will help when or if go with SN method.

Opioid on empty x SN could make you even more nauseous

 

[Gonnerr]

how would you adminster the opiods & won't that increase the chances of nausea/vomiting? Especially if you have no opiods tolorenance?

Its a pill that you let melt under the tongue like benzos. I don't think it affect the stomach.

Opioid on empty x SN could make you even more nauseous

Stan's Guide to SN.

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document has been designed to give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it works and how to use it. It will use the most simplest way of delivering this information as many members do not have English as their first language. Therefore using...

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I quote the guide :

When SN starts to work, your blood pressure will drop. When this happens you may get a mild headache. To counteract this, any regular pain killer will stop or reduce the pain before it starts. Paracetamol or Ibuprofen will work.

 

[TimetoGo!]

Stan's Guide to SN.

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document has been designed to give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it works and how to use it. It will use the most simplest way of delivering this information as many members do not have English as their first language. Therefore using...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I quote the guide :

When SN starts to work, your blood pressure will drop. When this happens you may get a mild headache. To counteract this, any regular pain killer will stop or reduce the pain before it starts. Paracetamol or Ibuprofen will work.

Yeh i think paracetamol probably best as not overly strong.

Seems to be so many questions still around this method. Would be great to see a proper factual regimen put out again, unless I've missed it somewhere

 

[Henryk]

I came to the conclusion that anything can happen after you take NS, from drowsiness and mild stomach discomfort to terrible pain and panic attacks.

 

[losing hope]

Its a pill that you let melt under the tongue like benzos. I don't think it affect the stomach.

If it gets into your bloodstream, I think it will affect the SN process in some way. Have there been any SN goodbye threads where they've used opoids instead of Paracetamol or Ibuprofen?

Only that is going to tell us how opioids might affect the SN process. I'm from the UK, so am not too familiar with opioid pills which I hear are given out like candy over in the States. So from memory, I can't recall any successful ctb cases using opoids.

Stan's Guide to SN.

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document has been designed to give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it works and how to use it. It will use the most simplest way of delivering this information as many members do not have English as their first language. Therefore using...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I quote the guide :

When SN starts to work, your blood pressure will drop. When this happens you may get a mild headache. To counteract this, any regular pain killer will stop or reduce the pain before it starts. Paracetamol or Ibuprofen will work.

I wonder if accessibility might also be a reason it hasn't been mentioned in Stan's guide. Because, like I say above in the UK most ppl take OTC pain stuff like Paracetamol or Ibuprofen instead of opoids.

Also found this;

"In this randomized clinical trial of 411 ED patients with acute extremity pain...

For adult ED patients with acute extremity pain, there were no clinically important differences in pain reduction at 2 hours with ibuprofen and acetaminophen (paracetamol) or 3 different opioid and acetaminophen combination analgesics."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5818795/

I think the 3 diff opioids referred to above are; oxycodone / hydrocodone and codeine. Not trying to argue for the sake of it. The motivation for my questioning above comes from wanting to reduce my pain when ctb'ing by however much %. Hope you can understand.

Edit; I've just found this & think this is what I might use with my SN regieme, along with some weed as well; https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/ibuprofen-and-codeine-nurofen-plus/

 

[Gonnerr]

Yeh i think paracetamol probably best as not overly strong.

Seems to be so many questions still around this method. Would be great to see a proper factual regimen put out again, unless I've missed it somewhere

The main cause of failed SN , that's because people were found or panicked and called emergency service.

If it gets into your bloodstream, I think it will affect the SN process in some way. Have there been any SN goodbye threads where they've used opoids instead of Paracetamol or Ibuprofen?

Only that is going to tell us how opioids might affect the SN process. I'm from the UK, so am not too familiar with opioid pills which I hear are given out like candy over in the States. So from memory, I can't recall any successful ctb cases using opoids.




I wonder if accessibility might also be a reason it hasn't been mentioned in Stan's guide. Because, like I say above in the UK most ppl take OTC pain stuff like Paracetamol or Ibuprofen instead of opoids.

Also found this;

"In this randomized clinical trial of 411 ED patients with acute extremity pain...

For adult ED patients with acute extremity pain, there were no clinically important differences in pain reduction at 2 hours with ibuprofen and acetaminophen (paracetamol) or 3 different opioid and acetaminophen combination analgesics."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5818795/

I think the 3 diff opioids referred to above are; oxycodone / hydrocodone and codeine. Not trying to argue for the sake of it. The motivation for my questioning above comes from wanting to reduce my pain when ctb'ing by however much %. Hope you can understand.

Edit; I've just found this & think this is what I might use with my SN regieme, along with some weed as well; https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/ibuprofen-and-codeine-nurofen-plus/

Thanks for the research , maybe ill stick with paracetamol.

 

[losing hope]

To argue with myself if I can get it morphine seems to work with SN ingestion. I believe @stuckinthemud also used MDS SN (from personal msg's).

No antiemetic need to ctb sooner

I’m thinking I may ctb sooner than expected. I have SN, propranolol and morphine. I can’t get an antiemetic. I have 10 25mg quetiapine tablets from an old subscription. Will these work ? And what is the best antacid to take ?

sanctioned-suicide.net

But good luck getting morphine in the UK either prescribed or good enough quality on the streets. Also I think perhaps you need to build a tolerance to morphine, as @stuckinthemud seemly had. As Feeling or being sick (nausea or vomiting) is listed as a side affect here; https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/morphine/side-effects-of-morphine/

 

[Deleted member 65988]

The main cause of failed SN , that's because people were found or panicked and called emergency service.

No surprise that it is, your heart is going at 120-180bpm and it's an anxious event since you're brain knows it's dying and the longer it takes to lose unconscious, the more tempting it is with each passing second to call for help then depending on the medical response, you may have a chance at survival or you may still die since paramedics don't really have methlyne blue on them, the best they can do is keep you alive long enough to get to the hospital to get help.

It isn't a truly peaceful way to go out but with death, the ways of going out do bring uncomfortability to varying degrees. That's why steps have to be taken to make this as comfortable as possible.

 

[asleep00]

This is what scares me too, while I was testing SN I got some on my finger and in a few minutes it hurt as if I had rubbed the skin off, I'm scared SN is going to literally be putting salt on an open wound, and for how long? 15 minutes of pain until passing out?

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

i recently came to know of a case where the person who consumed SN complained of extreme 'chest pain' and a 'stabbing' sensation in the upper stomach region. strangely they seemed to have puked about thrice, but still ended up dying.

i was wondering what the reason for this could be, considering the relatively better ranking SN has, in terms of a peaceful ctb. i have no idea if this person had taken any antiemetics or benzos tho. so could that be a possible reason for the extreme pain?

nevertheless, i can't take my mind off the possibility of extreme pain, as i have very low pain tolerance. the idea of it throws me off. so despite taking benzos, will i still suffer pain?

Uitweg (Dignified Dying) by Boudewijn Chabot States: S and SN sometimes don't give a peaceful death. Coöperatie thisfor advises to use 3 other things:
- medication against headache
- antiemetic
- fast working sleep meditation (benzos)

Chabot states there is no clear evidence these will even help to counteract the (uncomfortable) side effects of S/SN.

 

[Kta1994]

I also have chesr pain due to GERD and stomach pain so idk

 

[Onomatopoeia]

There are so many terrible stories about SN CTB. Most of the people do ultimately die. But an hour of puking, suffering and being tortured...I cannot and would not do that.

That outcome is not necessarily the norm. But if there's even a 20% chance of that happening to me, I wouldn't do it.

 

[4g1vvvven]

There are so many terrible stories about SN CTB. Most of the people do ultimately die. But an hour of puking, suffering and being tortured...I cannot and would not do that.

That outcome is not necessarily the norm. But if there's even a 20% chance of that happening to me, I wouldn't do it.

According to vizzy's guide, SN Success rate 83%. Less than 20% reported pain.

I don't believe it's being tortured, it's grown in popularity for good reason(s).

Vomitting and discomfort is surely a risk with any form of poisoning isn't it?

 

[DreamEnd]

According to vizzy's guide, SN Success rate 83%. Less than 20% reported pain.

I don't believe it's being tortured, it's grown in popularity for good reason(s).

Vomitting and discomfort is surely a risk with any form of poisoning isn't it?

Not with N. At least the vomiting is almost unheard of and no reported discomfort so far