Resource SN megathread

[babyneo1]

i already gave a big hint just look up and shop around :)

I found one but idk about it shipping properly, did you order yourself or planning to travel?

 

[yes7777777]

I found one but idk about it shipping properly, did you order yourself or planning to travel?

You need to travel there and either CTB on the hotel or figure out a way to bring it back with you without arising suspicion

if you order it through a proxy forwarding service I assume its very likely to get customs seized (unless you talk to the seller and tell him that you need it because of xx and xx ) Though I wouldn't tell him I'd be using it to CTB or something
Im planning to travel but might try to ship it, will see

 

[narasаnu]

I'm not sure about timing and dosage, I'm thinking about taking a 1 Cerucal and 1 Paracetamol pills each hour before SN three times, is that fine?

 

[cheesedout]

Question — I'm on Effexor (venlafaxine), and I've read that it can have really bad interactions with stuff like meto and domperidone. Anyone know an antiemetic that works/how I can get a doc to give it to me? I realize I'm probably worrying about nothing because it'll be killing me either way, but I don't wanna whiff an attempt and get institutionalized or something.

 

[Bybye]

I just got hold of domperidone, but the doctor didn't prescribe any benzos to keep me chill and/or knock me out before feeling the effects of SN.

I have mirtazapine, though, and I've read it also makes you less pukey. Does anyone know if a combo of domperidone and mirtazapine would help with vomiting more than domperidone alone? It's also supposed to make you sleepy but I never feel the effects of anti-depressants as prescribed by psychiatrists so I'm not sure I could use it to go to sleep in a timely manner.

 

[Dubito]

I'm afraid of this method, but I don't have an alternative. Anyone with the same feeling or who is optimistic?

 

[Jrileniwa]

I'm afraid of this method, but I don't have an alternative. Anyone with the same feeling or who is optimistic?

If I could even get to that point I'd actually be more confident. Finding SN has been a mess. I tried in several forms and I don't get where people are getting it from. I don't even know where the clues are for the source people talk about. Would be great to have some hints, even given in private.

 

[Defenestration]

I'm afraid of this method, but I don't have an alternative. Anyone with the same feeling or who is optimistic?

Same i would prefer to jump but I dont.find where.

 

[Dubito]

If I could even get to that point I'd actually be more confident. Finding SN has been a mess. I tried in several forms and I don't get where people are getting it from. I don't even know where the clues are for the source people talk about. Would be great to have some hints, even given in private.

Where do you live?

 

[atre]

I just got hold of domperidone, but the doctor didn't prescribe any benzos to keep me chill and/or knock me out before feeling the effects of SN.

I have mirtazapine, though, and I've read it also makes you less pukey. Does anyone know if a combo of domperidone and mirtazapine would help with vomiting more than domperidone alone? It's also supposed to make you sleepy but I never feel the effects of anti-depressants as prescribed by psychiatrists so I'm not sure I could use it to go to sleep in a timely manner.

Mirtazapine is sometimes prescribed as a sleep aid (which happened to me) because apparently it is less "addictive" compared to xanax . In low or standard doses mirtazapine makes you sleepy. Obviously it won't be as potent as benzodiazapines, but better than nothing, idk? I have metoclopramide and mirtazapine. If I ever choose the SN route, I'd most probably use these two.

 

[iWantToStopExisting]

In my country Macedonia it isn't banned at all. You can buy it freely, only requirement is that you are +18 years old.

Hello man. Are you from Macedonia. I'm from degenerate state of greece. We are neighbors, so allow be please to ask from you some assistance on achieving ctb. I have a depression from february month. I'm slowly roting day after day.
Macedonia isn't EU so i thought maybe the restrictions aren't so harsh there. Any way i'm looking for a partner who could help with a painless departure. It would be more easy if we organized in groups. We could communicate on another platform if you like.
Here some info about me : https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/a-32-years-old-failure

 

[bro2089]

I'm looking into this method is there anyway to get it in the US, I know Amazon isn't an option.

 

[Dubito]

Does anyone know how much Lorazepam should i take instead of 20x30mg Oxazepam as mentioned in pphb.

 

[Dubito]

Gemini helped me. 40 - 60 mg Lorazepam.

 

[48meow53]

Is "Pro-Cure Sodium Nitrite" (sold as cure for salmon eggs) actually pure enough to work?
It looks like the cheapest source I can find for it.

 

[Surek]

Is "Pro-Cure Sodium Nitrite" (sold as cure for salmon eggs) actually pure enough to work?
It looks like the cheapest source I can find for it.

About PC SN

So, lately there's been a bit of discussion about PC SN as a source, quite frankly, this post is for harm reduction purposes...a few years ago, there was a user who attempted with the same source and it ended up being quite a terrible experience so in all honesty, any mention of this source...

sanctioned-suicide.net

DO NOT BUY OR USE PC SN

This new source from FF is not reliable. PC brand SN is known to be nitrate. You will get sick if you ingest it.

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[abcdefg789]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

Certainly

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

Certainly not readily available anymore unfortunately.

I could only find one supplier and that was in Europe but I had to buy 24 containers of it. Like that's not going to raise suspicion!

 

[RaisinBread]

Hello, long time lurker first time poster.
I bought some PC SN about a year ago in preparation for CTB (it's been sealed in my closet the whole time), and I missed all of the discussion about it being unreliable; I'm out of time to send a sample to a lab for testing and I'm certainly out of time to track down another source. I know there are many variables here (and someone has probably asked before but I don't know how to search threads on this site), but is it reliable enough for me to CTB with? I'm looking for as close to a yes/no as possible as my timeframe is like today or tomorrow, apologies in advance for noob posting or igniting any arguments I just need to know if I should consider other options ASAP.
Thanks.

 

[iWantToStopExisting]

Sodium Nitrite 99%, Sodium salt
NaNO2
M.W: 68.9953 g/mol
Cas Number: 7632-00-0
Is this the right sn that required?

 

[abcdefg789]

SN is impossible to buy these days! ARGH!!!! How do I get it????!!!!

 

[cocobutter]

Are there strong alternatives for benzos? Finding benzos are impossible and I'm surprised no one is talking about it's alternatives.

 

[suicidaldog]

Can anyone PM me the DSL website? I've been looking for it for a while and I can't find it, thanks.

 

[Macedonian1987]

Yes, this is the right one.

 

[posterchild]

Hi,
does anyone know if SN is fully legal to order in or to Finland without any required permits or reasons for order? There is a single vendor within the country selling SN in 1kg bottles though they're a distributor of a German company so I don't know if the SN would actually come from there.

Hi, did you find any info on this? A fellow Finn here, feel free to DM if you wish. Im thinking about the same thing…

 

[ZeroRedz02]

SN is impossible to buy these days! ARGH!!!! How do I get it????!!!!

I can't get it too i am from Italy, seems impossible to find.

 

[Zorander]

Olanzapine as Antiemetic, and dosage / times per day?

 

[moonsun]

Is sn and ondamsetron as anti emenetic enough to die ?