Resource SN megathread

[PeacefulJourney]

If the sodium nitrite is not pure and you took it, instead of dying, could you suffer permanent damage?

 

[tonytwist007]

Can i pull this off with just the sn and no other supplies or will it be very unlikely

Watching. I have SN but cannot get access to benzos as many posts have suggested being used in conjunction with. If I take a massive amount of SN, would it even matter?

 

[SimpleLivingThing]

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

if i can't get a dopamine blocker, is it worth taking another antiemetic? i was prescribed ondansetron a while ago and have some left over, would that (or something OTC) be better than nothing? or should i just not bother if it isn't a dopamine blocker?

 

[nonamegirl]

I found sodium nitrite 98%. I that okay, or should it be >98%? I dont know if theres are difference.

 

[moonflow3r]

I found sodium nitrite 98%. I that okay, or should it be >98%? I dont know if theres are difference.

as long as it is 95> pure it should be enough.

Watching. I have SN but cannot get access to benzos as many posts have suggested being used in conjunction with. If I take a massive amount of SN, would it even matter?

SN is the only thing needed to CTB. the other medications help with comfort. Although antiemitics are strongly recommended.

 

[nonamegirl]

Is another antiemetic then metoclopramide out of the question? I have great fear of this drug as it is well known to cause akathasia, even from a single use. What if the attempt was unsuccesful, because i panicked or for some other reason, and I was left with akathasia, which is without a doubt the most torturous condition any human can ever experience, from what Ive read (I think I have maybe experienced it in a mild degree, and it was maddening )

as long as it is 95> pure it should be enough.

SN is the only thing needed to CTB. the other medications help with comfort. Although antiemitics are strongly recommended.

Okay, thats good, thanks. I dont know about the purity, it just says 98%, but I guess you always have to test it with those strips, to be sure.

 

[kvsvenky100]

Is another antiemetic then metoclopramide out of the question? I have great fear of this drug as it is well known to cause akathasia, even from a single use. What if the attempt was unsuccesful, because i panicked or for some other reason, and I was left with akathasia, which is without a doubt the most torturous condition any human can ever experience, from what Ive read (I think I have maybe experienced it in a mild degree, and it was maddening )


Okay, thats good, thanks. I dont know about the purity, it just says 98%, but I guess you always have to test it with those strips, to be sure.

Ondansetron

 

[private.nickname]

Hi private_nickname. Have you tested this SN - any good? Was that form the polish website B*****.eu mentioned?
I'm also trying to source SN (to UK), wary of getting dud goods. Not bothered about welfare police checks (technically there's nothing illegal about it in the UK, yet...)
Any info much appreciated., happy to compare notes.
Thanks!

In general, SN is a very simple and cheap substance (~5 eur per kg), approximately like ordinary salt, which is poured on roads in tons in winter to combat ice. While the substance has this status, there is no point in counterfeiting it, and when it is sold for these purposes, I am confident in the quality and purity. The source you mentioned seems to claim 99.99%. And I believe it. But as soon as the substance becomes prohibited somewhere (in another country or region), the price increases significantly. And when the price is high, there is a risk of fraud (counterfeits).

 

[nonamegirl]

In general, SN is a very simple and cheap substance (~5 eur per kg), approximately like ordinary salt, which is poured on roads in tons in winter to combat ice. While the substance has this status, there is no point in counterfeiting it, and when it is sold for these purposes, I am confident in the quality and purity. The source you mentioned seems to claim 99.99%. And I believe it. But as soon as the substance becomes prohibited somewhere (in another country or region), the price increases significantly. And when the price is high, there is a risk of fraud (counterfeits).

I found SN 98% on uk site, but the price is 30-35 euros per kg. The site seems legit, but the price is much higher.


Oh no. Ive scattered the web, and I found SN on a couple of sites, but I now see you have to list a company and company registration number :( I give up. I dont know how the PPH thinks this is easy to obtain. Its very VERY hard.

I dont know if anybody is willing, but could you Pm me how to get it? I am in Europe/Scandinavia

 

[private.nickname]

I don't think the UK is the first place to look for SN. You have Eastern Europe nearby, where there are no special restrictions (in my opinion). I bought there using a company, but I think you can buy as a private person. If the turnover of the substance is not limited, then this should not matter. If there are some restrictions, then I would think: what will happen if I indicate the registration number and the name of some company from my city, but the delivery address I need, and pay from a personal account, indicating the correct invoice number in the payment? Well, or pay with a personal bank card when placing an order. But if going in that direction, I would certainly think through the details well.

 

[nonamegirl]

I don't think the UK is the first place to look for SN. You have Eastern Europe nearby, where there are no special restrictions (in my opinion). I bought there using a company, but I think you can buy as a private person. If the turnover of the substance is not limited, then this should not matter. If there are some restrictions, then I would think: what will happen if I indicate the registration number and the name of some company from my city, but the delivery address I need, and pay from a personal account, indicating the correct invoice number in the payment? Well, or pay with a personal bank card when placing an order. But if going in that direction, I would certainly think through the details well.

You mean travel for it? I cant travel due to my health issues. Online dont know where to look. I looked all through google. Nothing. Dont know where else to look

 

[private.nickname]

I meant that (most likely) the UK has stronger restrictions on SN turnover than eastern Europe. Unless there are strong restrictions in your country, there's nothing stopping you from ordering in eEU. I'd try searching for certain countries (EE, LV, LT, PL - tell google where exactly) using local languages (google knows them). I'll send you some more in PM.

 

[charlemagne]

Uh, I don't have water or antiemetics, can I just I don't know bite a chunk...

 

[DoomedDarkCircles]

Can someone tell me if I can use liquid clonazepam instead of pills for benzos? That's something I've been asking here for some time now. Also, I regularly take clonazepam before sleeping (few drops, like 3 drops, but i'm kinda dependent still). Would it affect the protocol somehow?

 

[private.nickname]

Does anyone have experience of buying Metoclopramide and/or Propranolol in EU lately? Can you share the names of online pharmacies where it is possible to buy without prescription? You can PM me, of course. Thank you in advance.

 

[Sergeant45]

Could you smoke while waiting for it all to end peacefully? Would hate not getting to have a last smoke.

 

[tulero]

Does anyone have experience of buying Metoclopramide and/or Propranolol in EU lately? Can you share the names of online pharmacies where it is possible to buy without prescription? You can PM me, of course. Thank you in advance.

in Italy meto is sold without prescription if Im not wrong

in Ireland there is an alternative called Domperidone which is also sold without prescription too

the problem you most probably gonna face it is the fact they dont tend to deliver meds online to other countries so you have to be there to buy it

 

[FreedomElsewhere]

If anyone could PM me a way to access SN in Texas I'd really appreciate it.

Same here

 

[finalgoodbye:(]

I have a pic of the SN I want to buy, can I put it here for you guys to check it out? It's 96% pure is that enough?

 

[sweetcreep]

Could you smoke while waiting for it all to end peacefully? Would hate not getting to have a last smoke.

as a daily smoker, i've given this some thought. i think it's situational. thc or smoking it in general wouldn't hinder the protocol, but it might make things unpleasant for some people. it could elevate someone's heart rate or blood pressure and make them panic or it can make them paranoid. in this matter, it's up to the individual and how they believe they'll react in the moment. i would recommend doing a few trail runs of what would happen that day, without taking the SN or any of the medications in the protocol. then you'd have a better understanding of how it would affect you. personally, i'd smoke earlier in the day so i can be more clear minded and sober when preparing everything.

 

[TBONTB]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank

does anyone have experience obtaining a prescription for anti-emetics? I picture my Md being skeptical.

as a daily smoker, i've given this some thought. i think it's situational. thc or smoking it in general wouldn't hinder the protocol, but it might make things unpleasant for some people. it could elevate someone's heart rate or blood pressure and make them panic or it can make them paranoid. in this matter, it's up to the individual and how they believe they'll react in the moment. i would recommend doing a few trail runs of what would happen that day, without taking the SN or any of the medications in the protocol. then you'd have a better understanding of how it would affect you. personally, i'd smoke earlier in the day so i can be more clear minded and sober when preparing everything.

I'm also wondering if smoking wouldn't make vomiting more likely. But it does sound lovely.

 

[Stayhomestaysafe]

Anybody have any idea if Lansoprazole would work as an antacid?

 

[oono]

Does using benzos significantly increase the chances of vomiting? I see that the method requires you to drink a glass of water mixed with benzos in addition to the glass of water from the SN.
Thanks for your answers.

 

[UserFromNowhere]

Does using benzos significantly increase the chances of vomiting? I see that the method requires you to drink a glass of water mixed with benzos in addition to the glass of water from the SN.
Thanks for your answers.

As I understand it, you're going to throw up by putting a toxic chemical in your body. Antiemetics just help keep it down and the benzos help you fall asleep so you don't have to suffer through it.

 

[oono]

As I understand it, you're going to throw up by putting a toxic chemical in your body. Antiemetics just help keep it down and the benzos help you fall asleep so you don't have to suffer through it.

Thank you. This SN configuration seems more effective to me, as the high dose of benzodiazepine helps you lose consciousness quickly.
I was just worried that this dose of benzodiazepine would increase the chances of vomiting before passing out.

 

[bpdbun]

I have everything I need except the SN. I regret not buying when DMC's site was up. Can anyone confirm if there's a new reliable source? I'm in the US