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MsM3talGamer

Voluntary deletion
Nov 28, 2018
1,504
Is it possible you could send me the link to the article of her?
I've lost the link now but I'm sure some OP here will have it.
 
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DeadlyLiving

DeadlyLiving

I can't fix it, is this where I give in?
Jan 1, 2019
152
Is there any "harm" done in taking a higher dose than 15g? I mean if you take the acid regulators and antiemetics and like 30-40g of SN, wouldn't you die then? I couldn't see a reason why more would be bad, so that would make measuring it to get exactly 15g useless. Anyone knows more about that?
 
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littlelady774

running on empty
Dec 20, 2018
708
I would appreciate the link too. I think it's well established that SN is a lethal method but uncertainty exits over the extent of pain involved.
Yes, I too would like to know the pain involved. I get a lot of mixed reports involving the pain.
There is a headache and possibly abdominal pain.
There might be general body cramps due to acidosis but idk for sure.

I'd like to know if there is a feeling of suffocating with this method. I've read reports where methemoglobin is unable to carry oxygen to tissues, and also unable to release carbon dioxide from the tissues
 
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Gainax

Experienced
Oct 8, 2018
265
Is there any "harm" done in taking a higher dose than 15g? I mean if you take the acid regulators and antiemetics and like 30-40g of SN, wouldn't you die then? I couldn't see a reason why more would be bad, so that would make measuring it to get exactly 15g useless. Anyone knows more about that?

im very overweight so i plan to take 20g but with more than that i fear to puke even with 4*10mg meto
 
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DeadlyLiving

DeadlyLiving

I can't fix it, is this where I give in?
Jan 1, 2019
152
im very overweight so i plan to take 20g but with more than that i fear to puke even with 4*10mg meto
Yeah that was my background thought since in the pph it was about a ~50kg person if I remember correctly and someone who'd weigh more than that would probably have to take more for it to be effective.
Fasting beforehand takes a bit of the risk of puking since your stomach would be empty.
 
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Jadon91

Member
Nov 20, 2018
75
Was reading up on different approaches if one isn't able to acquire an anti-E. DMSO is a liquid, when drank aids in the absorption of any medicine/drug/poison without any serious side effects. As a carrier, it could amplify the effects of SN, allows SN to travel through mucous membranes into the blood which lets SN do it's job faster without it interacting with acids in your stomach. This takes care of the vomiting aspect. Also DMSO is readily available and promoted in natural health circles. It also purportedly used to stop upset stomach and vomiting. SN is highly soluble in DMSO.

You can read up more on it from this link: https://www.dmso.org/articles/information/muir.htm

Also correct me if I'm wrong. So I can cross this off the list.

Why was this post considered little? It seems like a discovery that is interesting enough to delve into. If the interaction of the dso with sn would speed up the absorption, it would greatly facilitate this method.
 
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Lifeisatrap

Arcanist
Oct 5, 2018
408
Why was this post considered little? It seems like a discovery that is interesting enough to delve into. If the interaction of the dso with sn would speed up the absorption, it would greatly facilitate this method.
It's not sold over the counter though. Is there anything like it that you can purchase in stores to speed up absorbtion?
 
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Xerxes

Invisible
Nov 8, 2018
936
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Xerxes

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Nov 8, 2018
936
Why was this post considered little? It seems like a discovery that is interesting enough to delve into. If the interaction of the dso with sn would speed up the absorption, it would greatly facilitate this method.

I have a file I got going that hopefully I'll get to post this weekend (work permitting). That explains in detail why this could be a viable method. The rest is just testing the efficacy of the delivery.
 
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Lifeisatrap

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Oct 5, 2018
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Xerxes

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Nov 8, 2018
936
Looks like it's sold mostly online. Are you able to buy things online?
 
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Lifeisatrap

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Oct 5, 2018
408
Looks like it's sold mostly online. Are you able to buy things online?
I could but prefer not to since I live with parents who get suspicious. I did manage to order the anti emtics though which I'm still anxiously awaiting.
 
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Xerxes

Xerxes

Invisible
Nov 8, 2018
936
I could but prefer not to since I live with parents who get suspicious. I did manage to order the anti emtics though which I'm still anxiously awaiting.

If you get your Anti-E, go with that instead of the DMSO plan. Not a whole lot of research other than accidental deaths from chemists using DMSO with other substances.
 
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Lifeisatrap

Arcanist
Oct 5, 2018
408
If you get your Anti-E, go with that instead of the DMSO plan. Not a whole lot of research other than accidental deaths from chemists using DMSO with other substances.
Oh ok. Good to know. Thanks for the help:)
 
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Redt2go

Redt2go

flower child
Jan 5, 2019
1,643
Has sn ever worked for anyone or is this also experimental?
 
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Xerxes

Xerxes

Invisible
Nov 8, 2018
936
Has sn ever worked for anyone or is this also experimental?

Several users have passed using the SN with a strict Anti E regimen. Getting the Anti-E is hard sometimes.
 
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Redt2go

flower child
Jan 5, 2019
1,643
Several users have passed using the SN with a strict Anti E regimen. Getting the Anti-E is hard sometimes.
Thanks, I'm curious how people figure out methods like this
 
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Xerxes

Invisible
Nov 8, 2018
936
I believe this method was purported to be in the PPeH handbook as an alternative to N. Also through the use of trial and error to perfect results to the way they are now.
 
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Jadon91

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Nov 20, 2018
75
Several users have passed using the SN with a strict Anti E regimen. Getting the Anti-E is hard sometimes.

There was more than one user who successfully completed this method with a previous dose of antiemetic. I wonder: can I combine sn with dmso and meto?
 
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Rsuicidal

Student
Dec 12, 2018
125
I don't want to say that mirtazapine is the same as metoclopramide. The main antiemetic action of metoclopramide is due to its antagonist activity at D2 receptors. The main antiemetic action of mirtazapine is due to its antagonism of the 5-HT3 receptor, an action mirtazapine shares with the approved antiemetic ondansetron!

Does anyone have information on dosage of ondansetron? I have a tiny amount of leftover mirtazipine and really am hoping I have enough for this method

Thanks in advance
 
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\Quail\

Member
Jan 9, 2019
19
I'll be doing Domperidone double the recommended dose than in the handbook, and use Ranitidine as an acid regulator.

I unfortunately don't have any Temesta anymore, so I'll try to calm myself by drinking about 1/3 of a vodka bottle. Are there any negative effects alcohol could have on my stomach acidity or the effectiveness of the NaNO2?
 
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Lefty

Mage
Dec 7, 2018
530
Do you need to use bitcon to buy SN/S from A? Can you use something like Paypal, but doesen't track your transactions? I know there systems like Paypal now, or rather there are payment systems like Paypal, but function diffrently than Paypal does. I know Bitcoins can be pretty hard to come by, though their price has plummeted recently, from what I've read.
 
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OkTotti

Wizard
Nov 6, 2018
616
Do you need to use bitcon to buy SN/S from A? Can you use something like Paypal, but doesen't track your transactions? I know there systems like Paypal now, or rather there are payment systems like Paypal, but function diffrently than Paypal does. I know Bitcoins can be pretty hard to come by, though their price has plummeted recently, from what I've read.
A. doesn't sell SN... and not sure what S. is
 
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Retched

I see the chaos in your eyes.
Oct 8, 2018
837
Do you need to use bitcon to buy SN/S from A? Can you use something like Paypal, but doesen't track your transactions? I know there systems like Paypal now, or rather there are payment systems like Paypal, but function diffrently than Paypal does. I know Bitcoins can be pretty hard to come by, though their price has plummeted recently, from what I've read.
You can buy SN off the internet, Amazon, eBay. N on the other hand is maybe what you're thinking of?
 
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Lefty

Mage
Dec 7, 2018
530
I meant N, not S. Typo. So SN is easier to get than N. I'm looking for a mostly painless way to go. I've heard N is painless, but SN there is some pain/discomfort. I can tolerate that.
 
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