Resource SN megathread

[JuliaOnTheNet]

It would be better to know if you can ingest that amount of salt before trying to ctb with Sn. I was just replying to the question whether it is possible to ctb with just sn as long as you don't barf. Besides that I did highly recommend using AE. Since it is very hard for the average person to swallow and not vomit that much salt or sn. But not impossible. Rest is upto the person themselves to decide whether they want to test it or get an antiemetic.

I didn't have the chance to try the taste of SN yet but I'm sure it is a lot less salty than table salt. I once made an isotonic solution of salt which is 9g/liter which was enough to make me feel really sick and it was disgusting.
SN will be 100x stronger in terms of concentration when you use a small glass, so I'm sure it will taste a lot less salty

 

[PleaseHelpMi]

Isnt using a straw a better option?

What do you mean? If you mean drinking using straw as opposed to taking sips then it doesn't really make a difference. As for gulping it in one go or taking multiple sips that depends on the person i think. Whatever makes it less likely to vomit.

I didn't have the chance to try the taste of SN yet but I'm sure it is a lot less salty than table salt. I once made an isotonic solution of salt which is 9g/liter which was enough to make me feel really sick and it was disgusting.
SN will be 100x stronger in terms of concentration when you use a small glass, so I'm sure it will taste a lot less salty

I have tasted sn. It is quite similar to salt in taste. In fact if not for the blood test i might have even thought that I was sold salt instead of sn. It wasn't an iffy color either it came out dark brown.
Also sn in glass will be concentrated so it will be more salty. But since you will be drinking only 50ml it is possible to drink all of it rather than 9g in a liter. Though i havent tried drinking it. Anyways like i said you should take an AE if you can. I will be taking domperidone too.

 

[Kta1994]

What do you mean? If you mean drinking using straw as opposed to taking sips then it doesn't really make a difference. As for gulping it in one go or taking multiple sips that depends on the person i think. Whatever makes it less likely to vomit.

I have tasted sn. It is quite similar to salt in taste. In fact if not for the blood test i might have even thought that I was sold salt instead of sn. It wasn't an iffy color either it came out dark brown.
Also sn in glass will be concentrated so it will be more salty. But since you will be drinking only 50ml it is possible to drink all of it rather than 9g in a liter. Though i havent tried drinking it. Anyways like i said you should take an AE if you can. I will be taking domperidone too.

I dont know if using an straw is better actually, i just want out of this suffering before its too late and i cant bring myself to do it because of too much pain, i have chronic pain that is getting worse

 

[cryptobaltic]

Will it be an issue if I'm taking gabapentin normally for nerve pain? Like will that have some sort of negative impact on me taking the SN?

 

[jessisme]

Yep, my memories are very blurry, but I have these messages as a reminder. I wrote an extensive post about it on my previous account here, I'll try to find it. The account was disabled and then I couldn't recover it later so I had to make a new one when I realized that I'd lost my bottle of SN and needed a new source.

I got it from ebay, it was fairly easy to get it back in late 2020. I weigh around 45kg and I used 20g which I now realize was an overkill.

I'm planning to use somewhere between 10 and 15g this time and prepare another glass in case of vomiting. A more concentrated solution doesn't necessarily increase the chances of success as it increases the chance of vomiting prematurely.

Here's the old post from two years ago:

Failed SN attempt - experiences from the ICU and a psych ward

I first joined this forum somewhere around June 2019 but I decided to ban myself a few months later as I had already obtained all the necessary information. I now have this new account as I have forgotten the login details for the old one. I had had SN for a long time before the attempt, and I...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Great account. Thank you for sharing. I'm very sorry that your experience turned out that way. It sounds like, though, that if your family had not interceded than you would have been successful, would you agree with this? Do you plan to try again?

 

[aleph_zero]

Great account. Thank you for sharing. I'm very sorry that your experience turned out that way. It sounds like, though, that if your family had not interceded than you would have been successful, would you agree with this? Do you plan to try again?

Yeah, that's true. I would have succeeded if I hadn't been hospitalized as I barely survived even with intensive care. That was some extremely poor luck.

I actually planned to do it today, I had followed the 48h AE regimen too, but in the end I didn't have the energy to book a hotel room, lie to my mother about where I was going, and go to an unknown place to get it over with. My previous attempt has taught me not to try this at home and it's making the decision so much more difficult. I would have done it a long time ago if it weren't for this limitation.

 

[MelodyCymbal]

About that new protocol, what exactly is the logic behind taking the benzos after the SN drink?

The PPH says "unpleasant symptoms associated with the ingestion of sodium nitrite pror to loss of consciousness can be lessened with the use of a suitable benzodiazepine drug. Drugs such as oxazepam (20x30mg tablets), Valium (diazepam, 50x10mg) and the off-licence, bromazolam (10mg), can lessen anxiety and significantly shorten the time to consciousness loss. See the Chapter on 'Supplementary Drugs' for further information."

 

[Sparx]

PPH quotes an article written about SN's use in suicide attempts as follows:

"the mechanism of death is suffocation and, because of the unbearable symptoms, sodium nitrite is an extremely unsuitable suicide agent."

The authors of the PPH dispute this but I am thinking there might be some truth to this which makes me anxious. Thoughts?

Been thinking about this some more. Perhaps they mean taking SN alone without any supplementary meds?

After all that's why we use the meds, to make it a more comfortable experience. 'Unbearable symptoms' does scare me though.

 

[JuliaOnTheNet]

How much SN would I need to take to feel slight SN poisoning? Is there a threshold dose?

 

[Sparx]

How much SN would I need to take to feel slight SN poisoning? Is there a threshold dose?

I wouldn't risk it unless you're ready to go. People have died from as little as 1-2 grams.

 

[Destiny Calls Me]

I wouldn't risk it unless you're ready to go. People have died from as little as 1-2 grams.

+1

Dont even lick your finger and dip. Someone did that a few times and ended up having to go to the hospital.

 

[jessisme]

Been thinking about this some more. Perhaps they mean taking SN alone without any supplementary meds?

After all that's why we use the meds, to make it a more comfortable experience. 'Unbearable symptoms' does scare me though.

It scares me too, especially since I will have to do it with only Ibuprofen and nothing else. Too difficult to acquire and I can't afford it. Do you think using just the SN would make ctb possible? With only Ibuprofen? What do you think would be the consequences?

Yeah, that's true. I would have succeeded if I hadn't been hospitalized as I barely survived even with intensive care. That was some extremely poor luck.

I actually planned to do it today, I had followed the 48h AE regimen too, but in the end I didn't have the energy to book a hotel room, lie to my mother about where I was going, and go to an unknown place to get it over with. My previous attempt has taught me not to try this at home and it's making the decision so much more difficult. I would have done it a long time ago if it weren't for this limitation.

I have the same problem and am planning to do it in the woods about a mile from here. Less than ideal as I will have to take it all with me and administer in the forest. Did you use all recommended medications or just the SN? Was any part of it uncomfortable/painful? In what way/what symptoms did yo experience if any?

 

[leeloosnow]

Are those capsules that you fill with SN? Mind sharing where you got them? I've been thinking about trying something like these, or even using miraculin to change my taste receptors but there's limited data on how it affects the taste of salty substances

i got my capsules from a health food and vitamin shop locally, didn't even have to order them (i live in a small town too) they're just gelatin capsules which will dissolve quickly in the stomach. also, i believe laying on the right side in a recovery position is preferable as this transfers the capsules to the duodenum faster to begin absorption, and avoid aspiration of vomit. i only paid like 2 pennies each, so i got like $5 worth. i almost attempted a while back, it was impulsive and im glad another member talked me into waiting a bit till i was sober, but i made the capsules with no issue and it would've been fine had that been a planned attempt

 

[jessisme]

I am going to have to attempt to ctb with just SN and Ibuprofen. I am on an antipsychotic that is listed in Stans protocol but it is an injection I take monthly. I don't know if this is sufficient to serve as an antiemetic or no. Do people think that I can be successful with ctb using only SN and Ibuprofen? Why or why not?

 

[leeloosnow]

Would filling capsules be effective? I know the recommended 25 g (or whatever depending on weight) is meant to be overkill.. but if you were to fill capsules with them I imagine you would end up having around 25 - 50 capsules or more depending on the capsule size (assuming most hold around 500 or 1000 mg). That seems difficult to put together and swallow but maybe I'm overthinking it.

it wasn't hard to make the capsules themselves, but seeing as how that was a couple months ago i will ditch them and make new ones when i'm ready. i bought a LOT of capsules and a LOT of sn anyways. seems like it'll really help. the ones i have are clear gelatin capsules that are very cheap from a vitamin health food shop locally. i got the largest size, so, ill weight out my sn (should be about a tablespoon, a little more depending on body) which isn't that many capsules. weight (how much sn) is different from volume (measurements of capsule interior)

 

[missingpeace]

I am going to have to attempt to ctb with just SN and Ibuprofen. I am on an antipsychotic that is listed in Stans protocol but it is an injection I take monthly. I don't know if this is sufficient to serve as an antiemetic or no. Do people think that I can be successful with ctb using only SN and Ibuprofen? Why or why not?

I guess there is always a chance you will throw up, try to get some kind of antiemetic, there are some OTC ones available. I will be trying with just Zofran, Ibuprofen and Antacid soon.

 

[jessisme]

I guess there is always a chance you will throw up, try to get some kind of antiemetic, there are some OTC ones available. I will be trying with just Zofran, Ibuprofen and Antacid soon.

Thanks for the feedback. I read somewhere that OTC wasn't anywhere near strong enough to ctb with. How did you get yours? I am afraid of lying to the doctor and am concerned that other questions will come up or that she will want to do more tests to find out the cause of the vomiting I'll be reporting. Plus I would have to be driven to the doctor by my elderly mother who will want to know why I am having to go.

 

[missingpeace]

Thanks for the feedback. I read somewhere that OTC wasn't anywhere near strong enough to ctb with. How did you get yours? I am afraid of lying to the doctor and am concerned that other questions will come up or that she will want to do more tests to find out the cause of the vomiting I'll be reporting. Plus I would have to be driven to the doctor by my elderly mother who will want to know why I am having to go.

I don't know which country you are in but some people here have mentioned online doctors consultations.

 

[JuliaOnTheNet]

ohh btw. I ordered SN from poland to Germany and it arrived. It got shipped out on wednesday (payed trough international bank transfer on monday) and arrived today(monday)
The courier was dpd and I wasn't at home and picked it up at a shop. There was no email

When I ordered I chose the following option:

and recieved an email with the payment details. Then I had to fill out a manual form for foreign transfers, , the SN + shipping was 30 € and I ended up paying 60€ with fees for priority transfer.
There was no SWIFT/BIC code in the payment instruction, but I found it when googling "Santander poland" and going to the german article. :)

 

[jessisme]

I don't know which country you are in but some people here have mentioned online doctors consultations.

Thanks I'm here in the US.

 

[aleph_zero]

It scares me too, especially since I will have to do it with only Ibuprofen and nothing else. Too difficult to acquire and I can't afford it. Do you think using just the SN would make ctb possible? With only Ibuprofen? What do you think would be the consequences?


I have the same problem and am planning to do it in the woods about a mile from here. Less than ideal as I will have to take it all with me and administer in the forest. Did you use all recommended medications or just the SN? Was any part of it uncomfortable/painful? In what way/what symptoms did yo experience if any?

I'm not sure how I'd feel about doing it in the woods. I like nature, but at the same time it inspires feelings of deep melancholy in me and I'm not sure if I'd want to be in this state of mind in my final moments. What made you choose this way?

I used meto, famotidine, paracetamol, propranolol and lorazepam.

I've lost memories of almost everything that followed after the ingestion of SN. I don't even remember writing the message I posted here. I managed to reconstruct the events to some extent based on what my mother and sister later told me and seems like I only had burning in my throat and no other types of discomfort, but it's hard to tell as I was mumbling on the way to the hospital and they couldn't understand me.

 

[stilhavinightmares]

I'm not sure how I'd feel about doing it in the woods. I like nature, but at the same time it inspires feelings of deep melancholy in me and I'm not sure if I'd want to be in this state of mind in my final moments. What made you choose this way?

I used meto, famotidine, paracetamol, propranolol and lorazepam.

I've lost memories of almost everything that followed after the ingestion of SN. I don't even remember writing the message I posted here. I managed to reconstruct the events to some extent based on what my mother and sister later told me and seems like I only had burning in my throat and no other types of discomfort, but it's hard to tell as I was mumbling on the way to the hospital and they couldn't understand me.

Just wanted to say thank you for sharing your experience with SN. I thought I'd read every one by now but I hadn't read yours! You have a brilliant mind. Are you planning on trying again soon?

 

[aleph_zero]

Just wanted to say thank you for sharing your experience with SN. I thought I'd read every one by now but I hadn't read yours! You have a brilliant mind. Are you planning on trying again soon?

Thank you! I tend to impulsively start taking meto when a strong negative emotion appears, but 48 hours is enough time for temporary emotional drives to dissipate unfortunately, which is what happened in the past 2 days. I wish I had some way of intentionally making myself miserable for 48 hours.

My life is generally not worth living, so any temporary emotion that steers me in the direction of suicide is welcome. I might resort to following a shortened version of the antiemetic protocol for that reason. 48 hours is an arbitrary time period anyway. So to answer your question - yes, I definitely plan on making another attempt, hopefully in the near future.

 

[AboutBlank]

ohh btw. I ordered SN from poland to Germany and it arrived. It got shipped out on wednesday (payed trough international bank transfer on monday) and arrived today(monday)
The courier was dpd and I wasn't at home and picked it up at a shop. There was no email

When I ordered I chose the following option:
View attachment 105266
and recieved an email with the payment details. Then I had to fill out a manual form for foreign transfers, , the SN + shipping was 30 € and I ended up paying 60€ with fees for priority transfer.
There was no SWIFT/BIC code in the payment instruction, but I found it when googling "Santander poland" and going to the german article. :)

Just a question because i cant really tell from the image but does that say NaNO3? The big lable up top translates to Nirtite but if its NaNO3 it is Sodium Nitrate which is not what youre looking for, youre looking for NaNO2 aka Sodium Nitrite

 

[jessisme]

I'm not sure how I'd feel about doing it in the woods. I like nature, but at the same time it inspires feelings of deep melancholy in me and I'm not sure if I'd want to be in this state of mind in my final moments. What made you choose this way?

I used meto, famotidine, paracetamol, propranolol and lorazepam.

I've lost memories of almost everything that followed after the ingestion of SN. I don't even remember writing the message I posted here. I managed to reconstruct the events to some extent based on what my mother and sister later told me and seems like I only had burning in my throat and no other types of discomfort, but it's hard to tell as I was mumbling on the way to the hospital and they couldn't understand me.

I chose the woods because I have attempted there before. I live with my mother and we are absolutely inseparable so there is really no opportunity for me to spend time alone. I don't drive and rely on my mother to take me places so I couldn't get to a hotel or anything like that unfortunately. The woods are about a mile walk from here and relatively secluded. It's really my only option at this point.

Without sounding morbid your attempt really seemed to be quite perfect from the ingredients you were able to assemble of the regimen to your discipline to adhering to the 48 hour regimen. Given that you don't recall any pain or discomfort the regimen must have worked beautifully. It's a shame it was interrupted as it seems that your execution was flawless.
I wish I had that kind of discipline and resourcefulness. Respect.

 

[leeloosnow]

ohh btw. I ordered SN from poland to Germany and it arrived. It got shipped out on wednesday (payed trough international bank transfer on monday) and arrived today(monday)
The courier was dpd and I wasn't at home and picked it up at a shop. There was no email
Here the product I recieved:
View attachment 105265
When I ordered I chose the following option:
View attachment 105266
and recieved an email with the payment details. Then I had to fill out a manual form for foreign transfers, , the SN + shipping was 30 € and I ended up paying 60€ with fees for priority transfer.
There was no SWIFT/BIC code in the payment instruction, but I found it when googling "Santander poland" and going to the german article. :)

does that say NaNo3 or NaNo2. the first is nitrAte the second is nitrIte big little difference

 

[aleph_zero]

I chose the woods because I have attempted there before. I live with my mother and we are absolutely inseparable so there is really no opportunity for me to spend time alone. I don't drive and rely on my mother to take me places so I couldn't get to a hotel or anything like that unfortunately. The woods are about a mile walk from here and relatively secluded. It's really my only option at this point.

I see. I'll be taking a taxi, but the problem of lying about my destination still remains. I haven't worked in a few months and my mother knows me well enough to be suspicious about any claim involving my participating in any social acitivities. I'll have to come up with a decent excuse to leave the house.

Without sounding morbid your attempt really seemed to be quite perfect from the ingredients you were able to assemble of the regimen to your discipline to adhering to the 48 hour regimen. Given that you don't recall any pain or discomfort the regimen must have worked beautifully. It's a shame it was interrupted as it seems that your execution was flawless.
I wish I had that kind of discipline and resourcefulness. Respect.

My modesty complems me to admit that obtaining meto was as simple as walking into a pharmacy and asking despite its being prescription-only in theory even in my country. Your compliments are a bit less accurate with this in mind.

It was indeed a good execution though, even the toxicologist in the hospital gave me a thumbs up.

 

[cryptobaltic]

Goodbye everyone. May you all find some hope and peace. I hope I do to.

 

[FireWalkWithMe]

Guys meto is not very hard to get if you have maybe 50 dollars to your name, can international transfer and are willing to wait a couple weeks. Honestly concerns me how many people seem to be in such a panic they'll try it with nothing but the SN.

 

[PleaseHelpMi]

I dont know if using an straw is better actually, i just want out of this suffering before its too late and i cant bring myself to do it because of too much pain, i have chronic pain that is getting worse

Same here. I have chronic pain too. I have been wanting to ctb for 5+ years. Just wanted a surefire method since the consequences of failing are scary. I got to know about sn last year. It sounded too good since I thought I'll be able to get sn more easily than N or KCN. But i couldn't buy sn easily.

Will it be an issue if I'm taking gabapentin normally for nerve pain? Like will that have some sort of negative impact on me taking the SN?

I am taking gabapentin too. Interested to know the answer to this.

+1

Dont even lick your finger and dip. Someone did that a few times and ended up having to go to the hospital.

I did taste sn though. Just a very little amount. Part of finger. I didn't feel anything different after that. I did feel just a bit dizzy for a few seconds but that might have just been from nervousness. Does that mean my sn is bad? Btw the blood test was dark brown though.

Thanks for the feedback. I read somewhere that OTC wasn't anywhere near strong enough to ctb with. How did you get yours? I am afraid of lying to the doctor and am concerned that other questions will come up or that she will want to do more tests to find out the cause of the vomiting I'll be reporting. Plus I would have to be driven to the doctor by my elderly mother who will want to know why I am having to go.

One way is simply to overeat. You can choose something you really like so it wouldn't be suspicious that you ended up overeating it. It will mess with your stomach so you can just ask the doc for Ae to get through it. Also for OTC you don't need to see a doc. Just go to a chemist and ask for ae. No need to explain anything either. That is why it's called over the counter. Atleast that's how it works in my country. Not sure about yours.