Resource SN megathread

[CloseFriendofCamus]

That's odd. I logged into the current ppeh which states that they can't recommend antacids or the like. I'm not sure if you're reading the downloaded book version, but the electronic one is stating this. It has changed from the November 2021 which endorses them.

I got the April 2022 version and it still recommends Tagamet and alike? Huh?

 

[rationaltake]

That's odd. I logged into the current ppeh which states that they can't recommend antacids or the like. I'm not sure if you're reading the downloaded book version, but the electronic one is stating this. It has changed from the November 2021 which endorses them.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/may-ppeh.90200/

Maybe this throws some light on it.

I got the April 2022 version and it still recommends Tagamet and alike? Huh?

There is a May update.

 

[DyingMiND]

So this is what the electronic version states. I've attached a screenshot.
Mods if this is against forum rules, please delete the photo.

 

[CloseFriendofCamus]

So this is what the electronic version states. I've attached a screenshot.
View attachment 91817

is this May version? Where did you get that

 

[rationaltake]

Wish there was N around still.

Me too. It might not even be available by July. Even if it is there will likely be high demand. Lots of scope for scammers.

So this is what the electronic version states. I've attached a screenshot.
Mods if this is against forum rules, please delete the photo.View attachment 91816

Thank you very much.

 

[DyingMiND]

Me too. It might not even be available by July. Even if it is there will likely be high demand. Lots of scope for scammers.

That's true. Scammers will be out there preying on those who are desperate.

is this May version? Where did you get that

The current ppeh

 

[CloseFriendofCamus]

That's true. Scammers will be out there preying on those who are desperate.

The current ppeh

Weird...

I don't have that section from the screenshot

 

[LongtimeLoser]

The current ppeh

Thx

 

[DyingMiND]

Weird...

I don't have that section from the screenshot

Now that's bizarre. I don't know why they are changing things. Do you have access to the current online ppeh?

 

[CloseFriendofCamus]

Now that's bizarre. I don't know why they are changing things. Do you have access to the current online ppeh?

No I don't I got this PDF from resources section here

 

[LongtimeLoser]

No I don't I got this PDF from resources section here

There you have ur answer

 

[CloseFriendofCamus]

There you have ur answer

my bad i am being retarded

 

[DyingMiND]

No I don't I got this PDF from resources section here

That's why. Mine is the current ppeh online one. So, any changes are reflected there right away. I don't know if this should be done sort of sticky that mods could post but I do think it's important information.

my bad i am being retarded

No worries. It's all good. Just want people to be informed.

 

[CloseFriendofCamus]

That's why. Mine is the current ppeh online one. So, any changes are reflected there right away. I don't know if this should be done sort of sticky that mods could post but I do think it's important information.

No worries. It's all good. Just want people to be informed.

Can you please share any other changes to SN method from new PPEH? Thank you

 

[DyingMiND]

Can you please share any other changes to SN method from new PPEH? Thank you

If I find any, I will.

 

[Shu]

 

[Judy Garland]

It won't hurt to take the antacid though will it? For some reason, I feel comfortable taking it. I don't have the beta blocker. I hope it's not required because that would fail me. FUCK!

 

[Shu]

It won't hurt to take the antacid though will it? For some reason, I feel comfortable taking it. I don't have the beta blocker. I hope it's not required because that would fail me. FUCK!

Read my pictures

It won't hurt to take the antacid though will it? For some reason, I feel comfortable taking it. I don't have the beta blocker. I hope it's not required because that would fail me. FUCK!

It's not required it only potentiates. You will go unconscious quicker with propranolol.

 

[Judy Garland]

Read my pictures

It's not required it only potentiates. You will go unconscious quicker with propranolol.

I just did, we posted at the same time practically. Thank you!

Read my pictures

It's not required it only potentiates. You will go unconscious quicker with propranolol.

I really wish I had Metoprolol though. :-( Plenty of people have CTBed without though, right?

Read my pictures

It's not required it only potentiates. You will go unconscious quicker with propranolol.

Just read this, thank you again!

 

[DyingMiND]

Read my pictures

It's not required it only potentiates. You will go unconscious quicker with propranolol.

I don't have propranolol and hopefully that won't impede the process.

What we have to remember is that Stan was likely not an expert on everything SN related. What we know about him is what we read about him. We can only assume that he researched this topic carefully and came up with a way that he believed was the "best" way. As we understand, he had CTB in a manner which was effective for him. We shouldn't take what he supposedly used to CTB and then superimpose that onto ourselves. (Unless you want to). We all would like to believe that if a certain individual CTB successfully using a particular method, then we should follow suit. However, we are all different from one another in many respects. Some of these are simple such as differences in weight, metabolism, medications we take, health status, etc. So, the point I'm trying to make is that we just need to choose what we would like to do or use in light of these ever-changing reports. I may choose to skip the antacids or blockers but someone else may not.

I think it just comes down to sharing info with the community and then each person can decide what is best for him or herself. It's frustrating at times... Or even most of the time, but we still must make a choice.

 

[wellherewego]

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I don't have propranolol and hopefully that won't impede the process.

What we have to remember is that Stan was likely not an expert on everything SN related. What we know about him is what we read about him. We can only assume that he researched this topic carefully and came up with a way that he believed was the "best" way. As we understand, he had CTB in a manner which was effective for him. We shouldn't take what he supposedly used to CTB and then superimpose that onto ourselves. (Unless you want to). We all would like to believe that if a certain individual CTB successfully using a particular method, then we should follow suit. However, we are all different from one another in many respects. Some of these are simple such as differences in weight, metabolism, medications we take, health status, etc. So, the point in trying to make is that we just need to choose what we would like to do or use in light of these ever-changing reports. I may choose to skip the antacids or blockers but someone else may not.

I think it just comes down to sharing info with the community and then each person can decide what is best for him or herself. It's frustrating at times... Or even most of the time, but we still must make a choice

In my experience propranolol isn't too hard to get a script for, I've lived in 2 countries and used it for work performance anxiety. I just said I have to give presentations and get panicky and know it works for me SOS and need a script for work.

 

[DyingMiND]

It won't hurt to take the antacid though will it? For some reason, I feel comfortable taking it. I don't have the beta blocker. I hope it's not required because that would fail me. FUCK!

I don't know. I mean, we can ask members who have failed SN and see if they didn't use one and how they felt. I personally don't think using one will be detrimental as long as you follow the rest of the guide. The biggest worry of nausea and then vomiting the SN. Some people will take the second glass as suggested and some may abandon and seek help or try and induce more vomiting.

 

[rationaltake]

This thread is really helpful.

Stan's Guide says the antiemetic should be a dopamine blocker.

Forgive me if I missed it but why does the antiemetic need to be a dopamine blocker?

As far as I remember the PPeH does not mention this.

 

[DyingMiND]

This thread is really helpful.

Stan's Guide says the antiemetic should be a dopamine blocker.

Forgive me if I missed it but why does the antiemetic need to be a dopamine blocker?

As far as I remember the PPeH does not mention this.

It does mention metoclopramide specifically which blocks dopamine, but there are several other dopamine blockers such as domperidone and numerous antipsychotics such as seroquel, zyprexa, etc. The thing with metoclopramide is that it also works as stomach emptier... Helps in gastroparesis. So this would supposedly help get the SN into the intestines more quickly. Dopamine blockade affects receptors in the chemoreceptor trigger zone of the brain which is involved in emesis/vomiting. Blockade of those receptors will hopefully prevent or reduce this problem.

 

[Shu]

I don't have propranolol and hopefully that won't impede the process.

What we have to remember is that Stan was likely not an expert on everything SN related. What we know about him is what we read about him. We can only assume that he researched this topic carefully and came up with a way that he believed was the "best" way. As we understand, he had CTB in a manner which was effective for him. We shouldn't take what he supposedly used to CTB and then superimpose that onto ourselves. (Unless you want to). We all would like to believe that if a certain individual CTB successfully using a particular method, then we should follow suit. However, we are all different from one another in many respects. Some of these are simple such as differences in weight, metabolism, medications we take, health status, etc. So, the point I'm trying to make is that we just need to choose what we would like to do or use in light of these ever-changing reports. I may choose to skip the antacids or blockers but someone else may not.

I think it just comes down to sharing info with the community and then each person can decide what is best for him or herself. It's frustrating at times... Or even most of the time, but we still must make a choice.

What he shared is literally the science of how SN works in the body and the reason behind using an antacid.

 

[TheStateofCaliforni]

Does tagamet not work as well as milk of magnesia?

 

[rationaltake]

It does mention metoclopramide specifically which blocks dopamine, but there are several other dopamine blockers such as domperidone and numerous antipsychotics such as seroquel, zyprexa, etc. The thing with metoclopramide is that it also works as stomach emptier... Helps in gastroparesis. So this would supposedly help get the SN into the intestines more quickly. Dopamine blockade affects receptors in the chemoreceptor trigger zone of the brain which is involved in emesis/vomiting. Blockade of those receptors will hopefully prevent or reduce this problem.

Thank you. Really helpful.

 

[Shu]

Does tagamet not work as well as milk of magnesia?

Tagamet reduces stomach acid milk of magnesia neutralize it.

 

[DyingMiND]

What he shared is literally the science of how SN works in the body.

I have read it and it does sound scientific in his research but that doesn't mean he is an expert in the science of SN and its ingingestio in the human body. I am definitely not denying that what he has said isn't good information. It's just that we, as readers of this forum, must take things which are said and think critically about it. That is, we can accept things as they are or question them. This may then prompt us to do our own research about things. So, we have info from people on this forum, the PPeH and suicide Wiki (and possibly others). Science is just that. We ask, learn, investigate, apply, etc. Stan had come up with the best scientific method for himself which others may choose to follow. That is totally fine. Since nobody is actually doing testing of SN in humans, we will never know what is truly "the best" way. We can only propose what may be best and then it's up to the individual to decide. That's all I'm saying. Not promoting any specific method over another.

Does tagamet not work as well as milk of magnesia?

Not sure. I personally never used them before.

 

[wljourney]

As far as I read. It still advises propranolol if you can get it as well as antiemetics. I read that you can dissolve SN in 25 to 50 ml water. Also, it recommends that if you weigh over 100kg, take 35gm SN.

Thanks for sharing these details