Resource SN megathread

[WilNord]

does anyone have that image of the amount of sn and water you need for body weight?
I have seen it here before but I can't find it

 

[LingeringUnreal]

Time for everyone's favorite topic, vomit talk! Anyways, quick q: would 50 grams (25g in two separate drinks) be overkill? I would definitely puke even with strong antiemetics so I'm thinking of having two separate drinks, both with a decent amount in case I puke an entire dose up. From what I've heard that's pretty much a guarantee if you get it in you after puking the initial dose, but wanted to make sure it wasn't ridiculous.

 

[tgfm]

Would someone be able to PM me any verified links/sources for quality SN that's either in the USA or will ship to the USA? Would definitely appreciate it.

 

[Iamchickenhat]

Follow an antiemetics regime, just a couple pills before SN aren't ideal.

Holy fuck, yes. They cost 5 times the SN.
Prochlorperazine, Metoclopramide and Domperidone are all dopamine blockers, but ideally you want Meto or any of its commercial names (Reglan, Primperan...)

I can't get a prescription for any of these things. Can otc like zantac be used?

 

[Iamchickenhat]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

I'm sorry I'm coming to this so late, and this is very helpful, but I found phenergan listed as an option in antiemetics. Will that do the trick? Thank you

 

[arnd]

Time for everyone's favorite topic, vomit talk! Anyways, quick q: would 50 grams (25g in two separate drinks) be overkill? I would definitely puke even with strong antiemetics so I'm thinking of having two separate drinks, both with a decent amount in case I puke an entire dose up. From what I've heard that's pretty much a guarantee if you get it in you after puking the initial dose, but wanted to make sure it wasn't ridiculous.

It is advised to have a second glass of SN prepared in case you start puking

 

[Nobuses]

Anyone going on SN soon? send me DM if y want

 

[TheHatedOne]

If there's someone who got SN from a Turkish seller please PM me.

 

[Wrennie]

Would SN with Filmerine as an ingredient be as effective? It's one of the only options available on the Jungle site as of now.

 

[TheHatedOne]

Are there any documented cases on here with people successfully taking SN with Dramamine/Meclizine as AE?


I've looked into some AE sources and it seems nothing can be shipped to my country. Dramamine appears to be the only thing I can do. However, checking threads on here it seems that opinions are divided on this matter. Some say that it won't be effective others say that it would be better than no anti emetic. On Stan's guide it says that it acts on the wrong part of the brain, however it is not named directly in the guide.


Would it be better to have this than no AE? initially I planned to go with no anti emetic, however this seems to be tempting.

(Copy pasting my post here, maybe I'll actually receive an answer here)

 

[RottenApple]

I have domperidone, Prilosec and paracetamol

Do you think is that enough to follow Stan's guide?

 

[Holloet]

I'm always worried about my SN going bad from moisture/the AC/heater/etc., especially since it seems almost impossible to get now. I thought it was resilient, but I heard from someone that a seller cancelled their SN because moisture got in it. If I do the blood test and my blood turns brown, does that mean it hasn't gone bad?

 

[Dot]

I'm always worried about my SN going bad from moisture/the AC/heater/etc., especially since it seems almost impossible to get now. I thought it was resilient, but I heard from someone that a seller cancelled their SN because moisture got in it. If I do the blood test and my blood turns brown, does that mean it hasn't gone bad?

Yh & u cn also d/ aqurium strp tst

 

[Holloet]

Yh & u cn also d/ aqurium strp tst

The aquarium test is to check the purity percentage, right? But is there a point in checking the purity if it says what purity percentage it is on the bottle? Is it possible for the purity percentage to go down over time?

 

[orange]

Looking for an SN provider in europe, please pm

 

[deleted]

If there's someone who got SN from a Turkish seller please PM me.

do you plan to burn down his village and watch it from the top of an upscale restaurant?

 

[som1]

I know u have to fast for 8 hours at least, but do I take the other pills like Antiemetics with water or do I swallow it dry?

 

[Dot]

I know u have to fast for 8 hours at least, but do I take the other pills like Antiemetics with water or do I swallow it dry?

U cn swllw wth sm watr if u nd 2

 

[zoeping]

Does anyone know a supplier in the UK of SN?

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

 

[RottenApple]

Guys, what kind of drug is Tagamet Cimetidine? Antacid?

I don't have that drug but I want to know what kind of medication could replace it.

 

[Ta555]

I don't have propranolol and there's no way for me to get any. I have everything else though. Will benzos be enough to reduce the anxiety caused by SN? I don't really care about fast heart rate. It's not painful. I'm afraid of the dizziness and nausea which are strong anxiety triggers for me. I've got lorazepam/Ativan and Clonazepam/klonopin. Will these do anything for the SN anxiety??

 

[orange]

I don't have propranolol and there's no way for me to get any. I have everything else though. Will benzos be enough to reduce the anxiety caused by SN? I don't really care about fast heart rate. It's not painful. I'm afraid of the dizziness and nausea which are strong anxiety triggers for me. I've got lorazepam/Ativan and Clonazepam/klonopin. Will these do anything for the SN anxiety??

Depends on how strong your phobia is and whether or not you have built up tolerance to benzos but Propanolol does nothing benzos can't do

 

[RottenApple]

how many hours before drinking the SN should I take Prilosec (omeprazole)?

I could buy pepcid which I guess is a better option, but I should wait until February to get it.

 

[bigbeatmanifesto]

Urgh I can't decide whether to order to a PO box (insanely expensive and tricky to rent) or risk delivery to home address. Looks like some people have been okay recently (UK) but our post is temperamental at best

Don't you have to sign for the package regardless? If you have a private PO Box surely you won't be there to sign for it? Or can the receptionist sign on your behalf?

 

[xyzblahh]

Don't you have to sign for the package regardless? If you have a private PO Box surely you won't be there to sign for it? Or can the receptionist sign on your behalf?

I don't think you do, as that's one of the major points of PO boxes. But some sources seem to say that RM boxes won't accept non-RM parcels anyway (you would think that info would be available on their site but apparently not?)

Anyway I'm probably overthinking this and a PO box just isn't necessary. I don't know, I don't want to fuck it up

 

[eurydice]

Can it be any antiemetic or does is have to be a dopamine blocker?? I have access to Zofran but not Reglan. It's a prescription antiemetic but not dopamine antagonistic.

 

[olkf]

My SN should be here soon. Stans SN guide states that some anti psychotics work as an Antiemetic. is it correct or not? I have access to quetiapine

 

[Danterno]

I have been quitely lurking in this forum for over 4 years now and the time has come for me to take action. If someone knows of a verified seller I can get SN from please pm me. I am in Canada, but can consider getting it through a US reshipper, if seller doesn't deliver to Canada. I have been dealing with a chronic illness and have tried everything under the sun to have it resolved. It is unfortuantely gotten worse to the point of tragic existence, so I have made a rational decision to the best of my cognition that I have reached the end of the road.

 

[Kulkas]

Umm hello guys,

I have questions to ask.

I still haven't bought the SN. I just want to make sure things first before i buy it. I have done only medium research, pardon my mistakes.

1. SN (needed 25g of (>95%purity) SN to 50ml of plain water [the standard measurement])
2. Prepare 2 glasses in case i vomit.
3. Any other medicines are supplementary (antiemetic, antacid, paracetamol, etc.) so it is okay not to take them (even though there will be mild discomforts (vomiting, short breath, headache, etc))
4. Fasting 8hrs before taking SN (no meals nor drinks)
5. 4 hours of no disturbances for sure death

Do i get everything right? Thank you guys

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Umm hello guys,

I have questions to ask.

I still haven't bought the SN. I just want to make sure things first before i buy it. I have done only medium research, pardon my mistakes.

1. SN (needed 25g of (>95%purity) SN to 50ml of plain water [the standard measurement])
2. Prepare 2 glasses in case i vomit.
3. Any other medicines are supplementary (antiemetic, antacid, paracetamol, etc.) so it is okay not to take them (even though there will be mild discomforts (vomiting, short breath, headache, etc))
4. Fasting 8hrs before taking SN (no meals nor drinks)
5. 4 hours of no disturbances for sure death

Do i get everything right? Thank you guys

imo this is a good minimalistic SN method.

i think the simpler you make things the better.