Resource SN megathread

[aukguy]

Diffuse hypoxic brain injury is to SN what a sprained ankle is to jumping from a skyscraper. It's possible it will happen, but it will be quickly and massively overshadowed by the more serious and fatal effects anyway.

For a brain injury to be problematic, you need to actually survive whatever caused it in the first place. With the SN method, once you are past the point of full recovery, any kind of survival is highly unlikely. That is one of the good things about the SN method, both when successful or when failed.

But I'm not an expert, someone like @Quarky00 will be better able to explain the technical details and reasons behind this.

As autumnal says it will likely be present as a result of the SN - but headache will also be present, as well as changes to blood pressure. All symptoms of the SN. Basically the diffuse hypoxic state is classed as an "impairment of brain function due to low oxygen levels" in the blood. It's going to be one of a number of symptoms that you will see when SN is used.

 

[autumnal]

As autumnal says it will likely be present as a result of the SN - but headache will also be present, as well as changes to blood pressure. All symptoms of the SN. Basically the diffuse hypoxic state is classed as an "impairment of brain function due to low oxygen levels" in the blood. It's going to be one of a number of symptoms that you will see when SN is used.

Yep, and hopefully you will be laying down peacefully waiting to lose consciousness, rather than doing any brainteasers or similar cognitive tasks where such a state would be particularly noticeable or distressing anyway

Assuming the member was asking due to concerns about permanence if rescued, my understanding is that the impaired brain function will be only temporary, in the sense that it is merely a symptom of the hypoxia that (like headache and drowsiness) will resolve if rescued and reoxygenated, or otherwise won't be relevant once you lose consciousness and ultimately pass away. The potential for someone who is rescued from SN having any kind of permanent brain injury is therefore unlikely from my understanding.

 

[Quarky00]

@autumnal , nothing further to add , Your Honour . I'm not an expert but I think that diffuse cerebral hypoxia is a specific symptom or stage of brain oxygen deprivation , and those were heavily discussed and researched . @MeriDeath . Search instead "SN hypoxia" or "SN brain" (and that would have been helpful had search option was actually working..) .

 

[Busdriver]

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About the N chapter, I also really should consider asking for royalties cause I'm the trigger origin of at least 2 moves

To remember, at the 5 years trackrecord of intensive Wiki reading, you could postulate for doctor's licencing as professional equivalence.

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Thank you, @enjolras, for sharing. This is interesting..

Bottom line, PPH recommends 800mg to take during SN intake, rather than 1-2g. And that propranolol is actually more of an essential item than a luxuary item.

I don't get the acid reduction stuff he says. I thought that If you reduce acid --> you increase the pH of your stomach --> less SN is compromised by acid, because there is less acid --> SN will be more effective --> increased peacefulness.
According to PPH, add propranolol to make it more peaceful.

@enjolras, I think you should receive royalties for the N part.

As does @Quarky00 and other SN experts lol

 

[aaaannndz]

So I'm trying to buy meto online but buying prescription drugs w/o a prescription is illegal..
What are the chances that my package will be stopped/opened up? (I live in Canada if that's relevant)

also does anyone know any reliable online pharmacies? Scared of buying fakes because how would you even be able to tell

 

[Living sucks]

So I'm trying to buy meto online but buying prescription drugs w/o a prescription is illegal..
What are the chances that my package will be stopped/opened up? (I live in Canada if that's relevant)

also does anyone know any reliable online pharmacies? Scared of buying fakes because how would you even be able to tell

See this post. And open the spoiler

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/antiemetics-sold-out-everywhere.38510/post-740255

 

[BadChanges]

How did you guys get your meto?

 

[moonchild]

@BadChanges There are currently two different listings for it on the e-marketplace, it shows up from time to time. Also where I ordered it some months back.

 

[BadChanges]

@BadChanges There are currently two different listings for it on the e-marketplace, it shows up from time to time. Also where I ordered it some months back.

I'm sorry, but what's an e-marketplace, and do they ship worldwide?

 

[rikamonie]

Hi i'm new here but i've been lurking for a while, i read all of the pages on this so im sorry if i may have forgotten some info thats already on here

i think i have everything i need but i just had a few questions and wanted to check to make sure its ok

for the antacid i have maalox is that good? it has magnesium hydroxide

Is liquid antacid ok to use or should it be tablets?

can i use tramadol as a pain killer since its kind of a sedative for me, but it also has a tendency to make me feel nauseous so should i just avoid that? probably a dumb question..

and iv seen alot of varying doses of SN on here, i only weigh 44kg and im 5'4 should i still take the 25 of SN or would i be better to take 15 then take more if i need, im prone to throwing up for no reason ):

soo fasting, painkiller, then 30mg of meto, then the antacid, then SN would work? for stat regiment sorry for all the questions i just cant mess this up

 

[Quarky00]

I don't get the acid reduction stuff he says.

I agree . It's a total mess . PPH says something about dubious NO claims I think (they are correct) , but does not explain , and rephrase previous acidity explanation . The usage of Tagemet is presented as crucial , although it isn't (Stan 12 BPD_LE 1) .

@Stan's guide, @Quarky00's FAQ and PPH all recommend using H2 blocker / antacid to raise pH for greater SN absorption

It just another option that may (and we don't know that for sure) reduce stomach discomfort , or allow perhaps 10% more SN absorption -- it is of the lowest priority . ( Same for PPI: they won't help that's for sure , but if already taken -- not that harmful probably )

And that propranolol is actually more of an essential item than a luxuary item.

Baloney . People have SNed without propranolol . It may hasten and make it peaceful , but by definition (facts) it's not essential .

PPH recommends 800mg

Near OD levels . If I recall 400mg given to heart attack , what's the point of using double ? Yeah facilitating SN and indeed faster etc can be achieved with lower dosages . 800mg is not harmful (well it is;) but that dosage is not written in stone . [1][2][3][4]



I wouldn't give much attention to the new revision . I would consider PPH SN chapter as a general introduction ..

 

[Samsa]

I have a question regarding NO2 tests. I got one from Merck (colorimetric, 100 test strips, 2-80mg/l No2 concentration). It says on the package to store it between +2 and +8 degree celsius. I doubt that these temperatures were maintained during shipping process. Is the test useless now?

 

[Living sucks]

How did you guys get your meto?

See the post 6297 directly above yours!

 

[Taraxias]

I have a question regarding NO2 tests. I got one from Merck (colorimetric, 100 test strips, 2-80mg/l No2 concentration). It says on the package to store it between +2 and +8 degree celsius. I doubt that these temperatures were maintained during shipping process. Is the test useless now?

No i think it is ok. Nobody keeps them at this exactly temperature ,not evrn at the store.i have to ask how to performe them the test because i also found a test that counts 0-50 mg/l while in the thread sbout the aquarium test they use a 0-10 mg/l test . your is a 0-80 mg /l .how is it made correctly?

 

[Living sucks]

@CAH here is the pPH info for SN. And propranolol. Click spoiler to open. the docs highlighted in green above the picture of the Tagamet.

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About the N chapter, I also really should consider asking for royalties cause I'm the trigger origin of at least 2 moves

To remember, at the 5 years trackrecord of intensive Wiki reading, you could postulate for doctor's licencing as professional equivalence.

Kuddos to the audacity : "Don't forget to support free knowledge" !!! That's what we do at SS & what you don't Can we setup a Donate button urgently ?

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edit : I posted SN stuff here (+ some sarcasm, allright), after failing to retrieve the appropriate SN thread mentioning the repeated dosing down of SN, where I wanted to post it (search engine broken again). Discussion follow-up here plz

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-210#post-741246

 

[aaaannndz]

See this post. And open the spoiler

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/antiemetics-sold-out-everywhere.38510/post-740255

Searched the spoiler..wasn't able to find anything though (I think Im just dumb lol). Thank you for pointing me to that though, I'll keep looking through other posts/online.

 

[Living sucks]

Searched the spoiler..wasn't able to find anything though (I think Im just dumb lol). Thank you for pointing me to that though, I'll keep looking through other posts/online.

When you click on the word spoiler it opens up and tells you what you're asking for. There's no searching the spoiler. Click on the word spoiler in the list that the link takes you to.

 

[ATownSerenity]

The other day, I opened my metoclopramide, thinking it was my time to go. However, I backed out of it last second before sipping the SN. Can anyone help me in telling how long metoclopramide remains effective after being opened? I can't seem to find any articles detailing it and mine didn't come with an expiry date, as it was prescribed to be short term.

 

[Samsa]

Any testing methods that are more accurate than aquarium method? Like a laboratory that can test SN for purity?

 

[AnxietyAttack44]

Some people do the blood test. Ill try to do that on the day i choose to unseal my sn. Blood should turn dark brown if its pure enough from what i understoon on guides. Hope it helps

 

[Samsa]

Some people do the blood test. Ill try to do that on the day i choose to unseal my sn. Blood should turn dark brown if its pure enough from what i understoon on guides. Hope it helps

I know that method. Thanks.

 

[Bsbsb12]

Hey. Did anyone meet information about cases when death from SN took more than 4 hours?

 

[Taraxias]

I want to ask is it possible to follow the regime exactly puke alittle then pass out snd while you are out poke in your sleep and have all the SN out resulting in not having enough in you and just waking up some hours later just having a hangover and blue parts?

 

[autumnal]

Any testing methods that are more accurate than aquarium method? Like a laboratory that can test SN for purity?

Some people do the blood test. Ill try to do that on the day i choose to unseal my sn. Blood should turn dark brown if its pure enough from what i understoon on guides. Hope it helps

The aquarium strip method is vastly more accurate than the blood method. The blood method tells you that you have SN, but does not indicate the actual degree of purity. You can also buy laboratory grade test strips, but whether they are significantly more accurate than their aquarium counterparts is unknown.

I'd imagine there would probably be a lab somewhere that could test your SN for you, but the test strip method is probably sufficient for our particular purposes.

 

[Samsa]

The aquarium strip method is vastly more accurate than the blood method. The blood method tells you that you have SN, but does not indicate the actual degree of purity. You can also buy laboratory grade test strips, but whether they are significantly more accurate than their aquarium counterparts is unknown.

I'd imagine there would probably be a lab somewhere that could test your SN for you, but the test strip method is probably sufficient for our particular purposes.

Yep, that's what my main point of criticism and concern is about the blood test (Blood doesn't turn brown only at 95% SN but also at 80%, just slower, and since we don't know what time and concentration it takes to turn hemoglobine into methemoglobine and at what time it does that, the blood method is basically just a qualitative test method (telling you if there is SN in your substance or not) but not a quantitative one at all) - and to a certain degree also in regards to the test strips. You can never be 100% sure if you have a let's say a 90% purity or higher/lower...However, I need (!) to be sure about the purity of my sn because, honestly, this just must work. The only available source for me was the pl seller from that site everybody knows...It's packed in two zip bags...still...I don't know anything about the substance and if it would be sufficient.

 

[autumnal]

Yep, that's what my main point of criticism and concern is about the blood test (Blood doesn't turn brown only at 95% SN but also at 80%, just slower, and since we don't know what time and concentration it takes to turn hemoglobine into methemoglobine and at what time it does that, the blood method is basically just a qualitative test method (telling you if there is SN in your substance or not) but not a quantitative one at all) - and to a certain degree also in regards to the test strips. You can never be 100% sure if you have a let's say a 90% purity or higher/lower...However, I need (!) to be sure about the purity of my sn because, honestly, this just must work. The only available source for me was the pl seller from that site everybody knows...It's packed in two zip bags...still...I don't know anything about the substance and if it would be sufficient.

Still, the test strips do give you a much more quantitative result than the blood method. Perhaps look into the laboratory-grade ones, I imagine they have a wider range of detection compared to the aquarium ones.

 

[Samsa]

Still, the test strips do give you a much more quantitative result than the blood method. Perhaps look into the laboratory-grade ones, I imagine they have a wider range of detection compared to the aquarium ones.

Yeah I have such a test - among others - from Merck. It goes from 2-80mg/l.

Is it possible though, that the substance shows variantions in the purity/concentration (e.g. due to moisture diffusing into certain parts of the powder?)

 

[autumnal]

Yeah I have such a test - among others - from Merck. It goes from 2-80mg/l.

Is it possible though, that the substance shows variantions in the purity/concentration (e.g. due to moisture diffusing into certain parts of the powder?)

I suppose it's not impossible, but I would suggest it's extremely unlikely. You are probably moving into the realm of unnecessary paranoia in that regard. You could ensure the dry powder itself is mixed thoroughly and any clumps broken up before using for testing.

@Aap has far more experience than me in this field, perhaps he can add some feedback?

 

[Aap]

Qualitative analysis is fine. There is the blood test and aquarium strips test; both are easy and sufficient. If you want to go down the quantitative route, you'll wind up Things such as gc-ms, nmr, or othercraziness that isn't needed.

 

[Samsa]

Qualitative analysis is fine. There is the blood test and aquarium strips test; both are easy and sufficient. If you want to go down the quantitative route, you'll wind up Things such as gc-ms, nmr, or othercraziness that isn't needed.

True. I'm just wondering, why it says NO2- on my test. That refers to the Nitrite-Ion, right? I'm confused because NO2 is actually nitrogen dioxide.