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I want to end it

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Apr 29, 2018
475
My SN has been stored in a bag in a chest of drawers. It's still unopened. But the weather has been quite hot recently. Do you think it is still ok?
 
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Samsa

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May 7, 2020
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Could you share the results of your test later? I also bought from the same seller :)
I think there has been at least one member here who actually already tested and said his s.n. (purchased from apparently the same vendor) was fine (If I recall correctly, his comment can be found in this thread, it's only a couple of weeks ago!) But yes, why not. Don't know if I can or when that will be and (in case I can) how extensively I'll be able to document the results here. However, rest assured, if, then I'll be honest about the results - regardess of the outcome.

I obviously hope my s.n. will be as pure as possible, because I rely on this method right now, as N is not an option because the overwatch nanny state I was unfortunately born in, is a place where every parcel crossing the border is being examined by customs officials...blood sucking government wants 20% import tax for everything legal crossing the border. So, in case of me trying to import N (obviously not legal), I would probably end in jail for at least some months or be fined astronomically.

Also, I'm currently waiting for the right scale to be delivered. I want one with 0,01gr measuring to be as exact as I can possibly be, both in regards to the purity test and the weighing of the final dose.

So, after all: Please don't count on me executing (hence documenting) the tests relatively shortly, ok?
 
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Taraxias

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Feb 22, 2020
359
I think there has been at least one member here who actually already tested and said his s.n. (purchased from apparently the same vendor) was fine (I I recall correctly, his comment can be found in this thread, it's only a couple of weeks ago!) But yes, why not. Don't know if I can or when that will be and (in case I can) how extensive I'll be able to document the results here. However, rest assured, if, then I'll be honest about the results - regardess of the outcome.

I obviously hope my s.n. will be as pure as possible, because I rely on this method right now, as N is not an option because the overwatch nanny state I was unfortunately born in, is a place where every parcel crossing the border is being examined by customs officials...blood sucking government wants 20% import tax for everything legal crossing the border. In case of me trying to import N (obviously not legal), I would probably end in jail for at least some months or be fined astronomically.

Also, I'm currently waiting for the right scale to be delivered. I want one with 0,01gr measuring to be as exact as I can possibly be, both in regards to the purity test and the weighing of the final dose.

So, after all: Please don't count on me executing (hence documenting) the tests relatively shortly, ok?
As your test measures fro. 0-80 mg/l where does the result have to be to know that the SN is pure?
 
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Samsa

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May 7, 2020
77
As your test measures fro. 0-80 mg/l where does the result have to be to know that the SN is pure?
Depends on the concentration of your (custom!) testing solution. It's actually not that difficult if you read the numerous threads regarding the test models/procedures. You basically need two bottles (bottle A and B so to speak) of distilled water at the start. Preferably 1l-bottles.

Just to be abstract: For instance, if you add more s.n. to bottle A, the higher the concentration in bottle A. But also, the more you extract from bottle A (which is then added to bottle B, ATTENTION: remove the same amount of ml from bottle B first!) the higher the concentration in bottle B! :) In the end, bottle A is not as relevant as bottle B, because bottle B is actually containing the solution (with your custom mixed concentration) where you put the test strip in. You need to make yourself familiar with the testing methods as desctibed in the respective threads. You can basically make your testing solution according to what your test implies. Then, there's different opinions: Some say you should target the highest concentration that your test scale shows. Others say it's strategically better to target a medium concentration shown on your test scale.... It's not as tricky as it seems. Basically, you should orientate yourself to the test kit you have at hand.
 
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Aug 20, 2019
295
I think there has been at least one member here who actually already tested and said his s.n. (purchased from apparently the same vendor) was fine (If I recall correctly, his comment can be found in this thread, it's only a couple of weeks ago!) But yes, why not. Don't know if I can or when that will be and (in case I can) how extensively I'll be able to document the results here. However, rest assured, if, then I'll be honest about the results - regardess of the outcome.

I obviously hope my s.n. will be as pure as possible, because I rely on this method right now, as N is not an option because the overwatch nanny state I was unfortunately born in, is a place where every parcel crossing the border is being examined by customs officials...blood sucking government wants 20% import tax for everything legal crossing the border. So, in case of me trying to import N (obviously not legal), I would probably end in jail for at least some months or be fined astronomically.

Also, I'm currently waiting for the right scale to be delivered. I want one with 0,01gr measuring to be as exact as I can possibly be, both in regards to the purity test and the weighing of the final dose.

So, after all: Please don't count on me executing (hence documenting) the tests relatively shortly, ok?
Ye, that's fine :) I have a pocket scale of 0.1g accuracy. Even 1g accuracy should work, see no reason why not.
 
foreverbroken28

foreverbroken28

I've gone off the deep end.
Jul 11, 2019
124
I see Tagamet referenced in a lot of people's methods but I read on a suicide Wiki page that Tagamet is not a good idea. I've always had problems with heartburn. Should I get it or not?
 
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Forced out of life before I wanted to leave
Mar 27, 2020
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I see Tagamet referenced in a lot of people's methods but I read on a suicide Wiki page that Tagamet is not a good idea. I've always had problems with heartburn. Should I get it or not?
Please don't use Suicide wiki as a reference. It is not a good or reliable source. Tagamet is the recommended antacid in the PPH & in stans guide. But you can use other antacids like tums or milk of magnesia
 
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foreverbroken28

I've gone off the deep end.
Jul 11, 2019
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Please don't use Suicide wiki as a reference. It is not a good or reliable source. Tagamet is the recommended antacid in the PPH & in stans guide. But you can use other antacids like tums or milk of magnesia

Ok. Thanks much.
 
rikamonie

rikamonie

Experienced
Jun 3, 2020
290
i'd like to write something about antacids since i have seen alot of confusion about them, so this is how i understand it, theres a difference between antacids and acid reducers

antacids (have magnesium hydroxide) immediately reduce the acid in the stomach these are things like milk of magnesia

antacids are recommended

acid reducers stop acid being produced, does not get rid of acid already in the stomach (?) as i have researched

acid reducers are things like tagamet and tums (doesnt contain magnesium hydroxide)

acid reducers are ok to use but are not as recommended as antacids (?)

maybe this is where most of the confusion about taking antacids is coming from since theres 2 different types and both do different things i would say look for an antacid with magnesium hydroxide

please correct if im wrong, this is just what i have read from the guide and researched myself, both types have done the job just fine so im sure its not that important
 
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Apr 29, 2018
475
Asked this a few times but I guess no one knows the answer :( My SN has been stored in a chest of drawers in a bag. It's still sealed. But the weather has been hot recently. Do you think it's still ok to use?
 
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AnxietyAttack44

I just wanna go to my husband already.
Jun 5, 2020
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It should be still ok. Its very hot in my place as well. You can still test it before using it, but transport of sn isnt in ideal temperature conditions. So i dont think you should worry if its sealed.
 
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esoragoto

The 1000th summer—
May 23, 2020
53
Finally got my Meto after ordering it 3 months ago. I was considering getting Propranolol too, but with shipping times to the US being so insane right now it'd take way too long. So I guess I've got all my ingredients now, and it's just a matter of time.
 
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AnxietyAttack44

I just wanna go to my husband already.
Jun 5, 2020
1,092
Finally got my Meto after ordering it 3 months ago. I was considering getting Propranolol too, but with shipping times to the US being so insane right now it'd take way too long. So I guess I've got all my ingredients now, and it's just a matter of time.
Glad you got it after so long, id get worried and nervous waiting. I got my stuff already, but it seems hardest thing now is actualy doing it. If only someone would prepare it for me so i can take it when im ready with no stress.
Good luck to you
 
Jumper Geo

Jumper Geo

Life's a bitch and then you die.
Feb 23, 2020
2,910
Does anyone know how to purchase sn in uk

With all the new interesting threads is that the best you can come up with try searching the search button there is a specific thread for people in the UK searching for it but maybe if you pay attention to other threads and get involved in the SS community some one will tell you where to get in the UK for £12.-00. a part from the local butchers

Cheers

Geo
 
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Taraxias

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Feb 22, 2020
359
Depends on the concentration of your (custom!) testing solution. It's actually not that difficult if you read the numerous threads regarding the test models/procedures. You basically need two bottles (bottle A and B so to speak) of distilled water at the start. Preferably 1l-bottles.

Just to be abstract: For instance, if you add more s.n. to bottle A, the higher the concentration in bottle A. But also, the more you extract from bottle A (which is then added to bottle B, ATTENTION: remove the same amount of ml from bottle B first!) the higher the concentration in bottle B! :) In the end, bottle A is not as relevant as bottle B, because bottle B is actually containing the solution (with your custom mixed concentration) where you put the test strip in. You need to make yourself familiar with the testing methods as desctibed in the respective threads. You can basically make your testing solution according to what your test implies. Then, there's different opinions: Some say you should target the highest concentration that your test scale shows. Others say it's strategically better to target a medium concentration shown on your test scale.... It's not as tricky as it seems. Basically, you should orientate yourself to the test kit you have at hand.
I am propably totaly stupid but i dont get to understand to do it to much the measurements of my test.my test is a
NO2 0-50 mg / l. .please if you could help me by sending me detailed instructions of how to do this test work properly.you can send them to me in a pm, i want help
 
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Samsa

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May 7, 2020
77
I am propably totaly stupid but i dont get to understand to do it to much the measurements of my test.my test is a
NO2 0-50 mg / l. .please if you could help me by sending me detailed instructions of how to do this test work properly.you can send them to me in a pm, i want help
It is really important that you make yourself familiar with these things yourself, to understand how testing works. There hardly is any other way to determine the concentration/purity of your SN, I am afraid. I consider it to be risky to take the SN without knowing if it's efficient or not. Also, since we don't know what test you are using/having at hand, it's rather difficult to give you any specific instructions. I would not give them anyways. My apologies, but I am going to stick to the rules.

This should help you:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-aquarium-purity-testing.34630/

Method 1 is good and from my understanding, if you extract 50 instead of 5ml from bottle 1 (Also extract 50ml from bottle 2 first to stay within the 1l-reference!) which is then injected into bottle 2, you should have a concentration of 50mg/l in bottle 2 (correct me if I'm wrong guys!) , if you are willing to be targeting your maximum test scale. It's just important to weigh the SN as exactly as possible.
 
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I want to end it

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Can anyone PM me where I can get an antiemetic? I can't find one on the popular auction website.
 
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Samsa

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May 7, 2020
77
Would baking soda be an at least somewhat adequate replacement for a prescription antacid?
 
rikamonie

rikamonie

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Jun 3, 2020
290
Would baking soda be an at least somewhat adequate replacement for a prescription antacid?

im not sure about that but antacid aren't prescription you can buy them easily online!
 
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Polly

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Jan 15, 2020
309
Finally got my Meto after ordering it 3 months ago. I was considering getting Propranolol too, but with shipping times to the US being so insane right now it'd take way too long. So I guess I've got all my ingredients now, and it's just a matter of time.
Wow it took three months! I better get going I'm not sure I can wait thst long.
 
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Samsa

Member
May 7, 2020
77
im not sure about that but antacid aren't prescription you can buy them easily online!
As far as proton pump inhibitors are concerned, they are prescription - at least in my location. However, those aren't ideal (judging from what I've red in different sources) and, if we are talking about e.g. Maaloxan or the like, these would indeed be relatively easy to obtain, that's true. But I'm still wondering if baking soda would - to a certain degree - do the job, too?!
 
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rikamonie

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As far as proton pump inhibitors are concerned, they are prescription - at least in my location. However, those aren't ideal (judging from what I've red in different sources) and, if we are talking about e.g. Maaloxan or the like, these would indeed be relatively easy to obtain, that's true. But I'm still wondering if baking soda would - to a certain degree - do the job, too?!

from what i've found out baking soda is not recommended in the PPH anymore and its only used as a last option if antacids or acid reducers aren't available, to a certain degree it would probably work, i cant find any reliable evidence that it works as good as antacids so i think it isnt worth the risk to most people and might aswell buy an actual antacid just to be 100% sure
 
rhiino

rhiino

Arcanist
May 13, 2020
462
Enough baking soda can neutralise the acid in the stomach. I have taken it because of reflux, it works. You don't need fancy meds all the time.
 
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x-Ace-x

Experienced
Aug 20, 2019
295
from what i've found out baking soda is not recommended in the PPH anymore and its only used as a last option if antacids or acid reducers aren't available, to a certain degree it would probably work, i cant find any reliable evidence that it works as good as antacids so i think it isnt worth the risk to most people and might aswell buy an actual antacid just to be 100% sure
I've read one member's post where he linked to the case study of sodium bicarbonate and was found that it inhibited the effect of lowering blood pressure, thus causing more time to pass out.

Can I use other antacids?

Sodium Bicarbonate?
We don't know.
  • PPH previous practice was sodium bicarbonate. It was not bad. It is not considered very helpful [1] [2]
  • PPH switch to acid-regulator (more effective, less interactions)
  • Some used Rennie etc
  • Gavison may not be good
Better use H2 acid-regulators -- antacid effects are unclear (no consensus)
If not available and you are unsure -- skip antacids

Also from https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/baking-soda-and-performance#section2:
Consuming sodium bicarbonate can also raise your blood sodium levels, which may increase blood pressure in some people.
 
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Samsa

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May 7, 2020
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I've read one member's post where he linked to the case study of sodium bicarbonate and was found that it inhibited the effect of lowering blood pressure, thus causing more time to pass out.

Can I use other antacids?

Sodium Bicarbonate?
We don't know.
  • PPH previous practice was sodium bicarbonate. It was not bad. It is not considered very helpful [1] [2]
  • PPH switch to acid-regulator (more effective, less interactions)
  • Some used Rennie etc
  • Gavison may not be good
Better use H2 acid-regulators -- antacid effects are unclear (no consensus)
If not available and you are unsure -- skip antacids

Also from https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/baking-soda-and-performance#section2:
Interesting! Good to know that, thank you very much for sharing.
 
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watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
736
would like to give an update:

So I got my SN. I have made 1 order from ebay (polish seller) and got a refund after 2 months. Then I ordered from L*****b (spanish provider) They asked for a company and I never answered. But after a month I got an email stating that my package had been sent, that's the one I got today. I had also ordered from E**y (seller S***F******A**) but still didn't get it. I think I'll get it this month. I'm not sure If I can do the blood test since I have a phobia of blood..
 
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WhatIsMyLife

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Apr 22, 2020
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would like to give an update:

So I got my SN. I have made 1 order from ebay (polish seller) and got a refund after 2 months. Then I ordered from L*****b (spanish provider) They asked for a company and I never answered. But after a month I got an email stating that my package had been sent, that's the one I got today. I had also ordered from E**y (seller S***F******A**) but still didn't get it. I think I'll get it this month. I'm not sure If I can do the blood test since I have a phobia of blood..
The aquarium test is a good way to test it. Much more accurate than blood.
 
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x-Ace-x

Experienced
Aug 20, 2019
295
would like to give an update:

So I got my SN. I have made 1 order from ebay (polish seller) and got a refund after 2 months. Then I ordered from L*****b (spanish provider) They asked for a company and I never answered. But after a month I got an email stating that my package had been sent, that's the one I got today. I had also ordered from E**y (seller S***F******A**) but still didn't get it. I think I'll get it this month. I'm not sure If I can do the blood test since I have a phobia of blood..
The polish seller really f'ed up during the quarantine. Luckily I ordered from him before all this mess. When testing with a blood test, there's no need for a lot of blood. Just poke your fingertip with a needle while pressing the finger and that's it :)
 
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