Discussion Should Suicide be Legal ?

[spellbound]

I feel like most of us would want suicide to be accessible, but what rules should govern this ? How can we, as a society, determine who's worthy of killing themselves ? Would one have to pass a psychological test ? Should minors and people with mental disabilities be banned from it ?
Or should it stay hard to access to ensure only true suicidals are committing ?

 

[Smiles & Giggles]

Every single person is worthy of killing themselves. Death is everyone's best interest.

 

[RoachClassified]

absolutely, every person has a right to die because they didn't choose to be born in the first place. unfortunately, euthanasia is the maximum we will get

 

[spellbound]

absolutely, every person has a right to die because they didn't choose to be born in the first place. unfortunately, euthanasia is the maximum we will get

So do you feel like, in a hypothetical scenario, a 12 year old should be provided with the means to end their life, no questions asked ?

 

[OkayFine]

Isn't it only illegal in places that are quite socially oppressive?

 

[LonelyPrince]

Didn't ask to be born so the least would be giving us a peaceful way out.

 

[Lamentice]

It shouldn't be illegal at all, it's crazy to criminalize someone for suicide/attempted suicide; it's not helpful, it's not preventative, it's not anyone's business, it's fucking stupid.

However, assisted euthanasia I do believe should be regulated. Minors can't consent to major life decisions, so for one I think anyone under the age of 25 should be disqualified (with exemptions based on extreme disability), just let the brain finish developing first. Beyond that, someone should have to pass extensive psychoanalysis & any other accessible methods of potential treatment should be exhausted. It's just too exploitable otherwise. Do I think with these regulations that euthanasia should be accessible everywhere? Abso-fucking-lutely.

 

[spellbound]

However, assisted euthanasia I do believe should be regulated. Minors can't consent to major life decisions, so for one I think anyone under the age of 25 should be disqualified (with exemptions based on extreme disability), just let the brain finish developing first. Beyond that, someone should have to pass extensive psychoanalysis & any other accessible methods of potential treatment should be exhausted. It's just too exploitable otherwise. Do I think with these regulations that euthanasia should be accessible everywhere? Abso-fucking-lutely.

I do somewhat agree with you, and I do feel that psychoanalysis should be a necessary step, but at the same time I feel like that could turn nightmarish for a suicidal person to have to convince a pro-lifer psychologist to grant them the right to die. You know how these people be, tryna fix everything. I just don't know how we could prevent this kind of abuse yk ?

 

[Lamentice]

I do somewhat agree with you, and I do feel that psychoanalysis should be a necessary step, but at the same time I feel like that could turn nightmarish for a suicidal person to have to convince a pro-lifer psychologist to grant them the right to die. You know how these people be, tryna fix everything. I just don't know how we could prevent this kind of abuse yk ?

That's fair, honestly the MH industry is extremely flawed systematically and stock full of bad actors :/ I don't know how that abuse could be avoided either.

 

[Leichengeist_]

How could one make it illegal? You can't arrest the dead. Even so, anyone is worthy of suicide, it's a matter of personal choice.

 

[vitbar]

How could one make it illegal? You can't arrest the dead. Even so, anyone is worthy of suicide, it's a matter of personal choice.

In some times and places survival means you get prosecuted for attempted murder.

 

[RoachClassified]

So do you feel like, in a hypothetical scenario, a 12 year old should be provided with the means to end their life, no questions asked ?

hypothetically, I don't think it would be allowed to provide suicide assistance for 12 yo. because legally they're not old enough to make their own decisions

 

[spellbound]

hypothetically, I don't think it would be allowed to provide suicide assistance for 12 yo. because legally they're not old enough to make their own decisions

That's the point of my question, who should be able to be provided with suicide assistance ?
Anyone over 18 ? What about people with serious mental disabilities, or people in the middle of a delirious episode, or intoxicated ? Should anyone over the age limit get suicide assistance regardless of their mental state or should their be some kind of psychological test ?

 

[RoachClassified]

That's the point of my question, who should be able to be provided with suicide assistance ?
Anyone over 18 ? What about people with serious mental disabilities, or people in the middle of a delirious episode, or intoxicated ? Should anyone over the age limit get suicide assistance regardless of their mental state or should their be some kind of psychological test ?

I guess anyone over 18, yeah.

 

[FuneralCry]

It needs to be and it's just so horrific how humans have made it illegal to die painlessly, all I want is to be permanently free from this torturous, dreadful existence that never should had been imposed.

I'll just always see the existence of life as the most terrible, dreadful tragedy that just causes all this torture and suffering and for me non-existence is just all I see as positive, all I want is peace from the terrible suffering of existing where there is no limit as to how much agony one can feel, to me anti-suicide is just so evil, there's just so much evil in how these people want others to be tortured for as long as possible in this existence that just leads to decay and death anyway, all I want is the peace of non-existence to save me from all future dreadful suffering.