Discussion Should people with depression/suicidal thoughts become parents?

[Painted Bird]

I think they definitely shouldn't. I believe I am an anti-natalist in general too. In order to put my money where my mouth is I got a vasectomy years ago. Didn't have any kids before the procedure either.

 

[Wolfjob_dayjob]

100% antinatalist so..

 

[Final Escape]

Unless you can hand your kids the best life possible, preferably on a silver platter, they will likely suffer. I'm a bit antinatalist and think breeding is the most selfish thing one can do.

They don't need a silver platter, but these days it might be helpful to bring your kid up off the grid. Like if u can grow your own food, generate your energy, keep animals etc. It does depend how much u can be self reliant these days because eventually many of the former wealthy countries will not be. I sometimes watch Owen Benjamin and dollar vigilante on YouTube and I think that's probably the type of resources and maneuvering u need to be able to do if you want a decent quality of life in the future.

 

[Nova]

I think NO one should become a parent. Just let the human species go gently extinct.

 

[hybridtheory]

being suicidal and depressed gives me no time at all to think about kids, and I never want any at all. also, agreeing with what other people said on here, I wouldn't want my kids to feel as shitty as I do, so yeah no thanks. ​

 

[Fish Face]

I would say no but I do think if I was able to have children it would have saved me. It's too late now. I am 47 years now. I tried to get pregnant but no luck.

 

[inconsequential]

I wouldn't, but I have a myriad of other reasons as well.

 

[intheend]

I would say no in general. And I could have avoided to be born at all and searching for a way out of this planet.

 

[Black_Knight]

No one should have children. The most insane part of our insane world is that it's driven by the insatiable desire to self-replicate, even when faced with the full knowledge that all it is doing is inflicting suffering upon itself.

It's the single factor that changes this from a nightmare to a never-ending nightmare.

 

[foreverbroken28]

Nope. That's why I turned out as shitty as I am now..My mom and dad actually met in a psychward.

My dad was an employee and my mom is a patient. Both have mental illness...and almost everyone in my family has been diagnosed. There are no normal people in my family of 8.

No one should have children. The most insane part of our insane world is that it's driven by the insatiable desire to self-replicate, even when faced with the full knowledge that all it is doing is inflicting suffering upon itself.

It's the single factor that changes this from a nightmare to a never-ending nightmare.

Humans are the only ones who believe they are "here for a reason"..and though it may never happen, if everyone decided not to have any more kids...humanity would go extinct. We are choosing existence.

 

[HGL91]

What about those that already have children before they realise they are fucked up and have issues beyond their control? What happens then?

That happened to my cousin. She's probably gonna lose custody of her 3 boys under 12 years old.

I think NO one should become a parent. Just let the human species go gently extinct.

Lol love how you threw the word 'gently' in there!

Nope. That's why I turned out as shitty as I am now..My mom and dad actually met in a psychward.

My dad was an employee and my mom is a patient. Both have mental illness...and almost everyone in my family has been diagnosed. There are no normal people in my family of 8.


Humans are the only ones who believe they are "here for a reason"..and though it may never happen, if everyone decided not to have any more kids...humanity would go extinct. We are choosing existence.

They met in a psych ward?! And I thought my birth dad at the age of 40 as a president of an oil company, married with 4 kids, having an affair and a bastard child (me) with a 23 year old bipolar porn star was weird!

 

[Numbtopain97]

I think No one should have children .

 

[Baskol1]

NO! Absolutely not, you will only increase suffering, but as a Antinatalist im against having kids anyway. But its worse when mentally ill parents have many kids.

 

[Blackjack]

Absolutely not. You can't escape genetics.

 

[HGL91]

Absolutely not. You can't escape genetics.

Yup. My dad helped create FIVE humans and we're all mentally ill like him. I don't care if I grew up being told by people that I'd have attractive kids and that my siblings and I are a gorgeous family. We're a mentally ill family that makes the Kardashians look normal.

 

[Lookingforabus]

We're a mentally ill family that makes the Kardashians look normal.

The Kardashians *are* normal. Vain, petty, self-involved and utterly useless. Can't get more of a normal human than that.

 

[HGL91]

The Kardashians *are* normal. Vain, petty, self-involved and utterly useless. Can't get more of a normal human than that.

Guess you have a point. That's my dad's side of the family. Only thing I'd add is "emotionally unstable".

 

[Blackjack]

Yup. My dad helped create FIVE humans and we're all mentally ill like him. I don't care if I grew up being told by people that I'd have attractive kids and that my siblings and I are a gorgeous family. We're a mentally ill family that makes the Kardashians look normal.

I didn't understand until it was too late that the cycle of mental illness & dysfunction cannot be overcome.

 

[Tabbyql]

My "mother"had mental health issues. No love or affection from her=messed up person. So I dunno she clearly didn't wanna know and I don't think she should of had us.

 

[Soulless_Angel]

Absolutely not. You can't escape genetics.

3 siblings from a women who was we are seeing now not all with it, 1 is normal living a wonderful life with her family and husband, One is settled but has some issues (depression) and then there is me, the fucked up one.... if its genetics why has it not hit all of us?!

 

[Blackjack]

3 siblings from a women who was we are seeing now not all with it, 1 is normal living a wonderful life with her family and husband, One is settled but has some issues (depression) and then there is me, the fucked up one.... if its genetics why has it not hit all of us?!

It could still hit the "normal" one later depending on how severe the genetic marker is.

 

[Rain]

Absolutely not. What better way to screw up the next generation by not giving them a chance even before they enter the world. If the suicidal/ depressed person finds recovery and happiness they would probably have a lot of wisdom and intelligence to pass on to their children and the children would be better for it. Unhealed people should not be reproducing. Suicide is not selfish BUT having a child while being unhealed is the ultimate selfish act.

 

[k3v3r]

If you can control it, yes. If you can't/are a danger to yourself, no

 

[Fallen_From_Grace]

Depends on severity and if they're getting treated for what ails them.

 

[Sweet emotion]

No. Absolutely not. If you're not mentally stable, absolutely not. It could out you I to a deeper state of depression and you could hurt an innocent baby. That is totally selfish in my opinion.

 

[woxihuanni]

I remember my drama queen mother pretending at an attempt when I was a kid because I did not tidy my room. She went to the kitchen, apparently to get a knife (yeah, very useful method), and did not use it but pretended to collapse. What a fucking miserable twat she was.

Yeah so, please don't breed if you are fucked up to that degree.

 

[Rachel74]

My answer is no if at the time you have been diagnosed with BP. This is why I didn't have children. Looking back at my life now I'm very glad I didn't.

 

[White_Room293]

No one should IMO. I'm an anti natalist and think it's morally wrong to reproduce

 

[freedomcalls]

No, I wasn't severely depressed when I had my first child but I'd had a lifelong tendency to depression and I naively didn't realise it would persist
12 years later and I've poured myself heart and soul into my children, trying to do the best for them, they're well cared for and have lots of opportunities but when I have periods of severe depression, I hate myself even more for it because my behaviour hurts and confuses the people I love most in the world

I shouldn't have subjected them to this.

Also, I want to be fully committed to CTB but there's nobody else to care for them, so i'm stuck

 

[Forever Sleep]

Honestly, I don't understand why people want to bring a helpless being into this world if there is even a 1% chance that it could suffer as they have... When there's a 50% chance. Or more- if their life situation is also extremely difficult.

Having said that, I'm sure there are some wonderful mother's out there who are struggling themselves. It must be terrible to be in that situation.

My perspective is very selfishly scewed towards the child because I did lose my Mum when I was 3 from natural causes. I honestly get a bit triggered when I think about people who know they may well be leaving early bringing a child into the world to likely abandon them.

Still, we all base our actions on what we are feeling at the time. Perhaps they had recovered enough at the time of pregnancy to believe they could turn things around. In any case, it's a terribly tragic situation for everyone.