Sharp knife beside me while I CTB with SN?

[Tyra]

Okay so I have a fear of suffocation. And I think that it is one of the most painful ways to die so I'm trying to find ways that I can end myself during the CTB in case that happens.

In my mind the pain of suffocation would outweigh the pain of stabbing heart/cutting my neck…

I have not researched how to CTB with a knife, so I'm not exactly sure how I'd go about doing it yet.

So anyone have any ideas/thoughts on this?

It reminds me of this House of the Dragon episode (game of thrones spin off series) where one of the dragon keepers was getting burned alive by the dragons fire and he took his knife out and sliced his throat.

Also please no one spoil I haven't been able to watch the last couple of episodes yet.

 

[CrawlingInMySkin]

I mean... There are absolutely easier ways to do this... Also, cutting yourself hard enough to kill is put simply, quite painful. Would it work? If SI doesn't kick in and you can actually get the knife to do something, then yes, probably. But really... It'd be super painful. Not on my list of ways to go out. Love and peace

 

[sadbh—itstimetogo🤎]

SN will not feel like "suffocation" because it has nothing to do with your lungs

 

[parabellum_]

ctb with a knife is not recommended because it can be very painful, SI kicks in HARD (hesitation wounds), and its hard to find a spot that actually kills you. if you were really desperate, maybe you could stab your neck but i advice against the chest since your heart is heavily protected (also if you puncture your lung then you might choke on your blood).

 

[Ultimatefighter]

Okay so I have a fear of suffocation. And I think that it is one of the most painful ways to die so I'm trying to find ways that I can end myself during the CTB in case that happens.

In my mind the pain of suffocation would outweigh the pain of stabbing heart/cutting my neck…

I have not researched how to CTB with a knife, so I'm not exactly sure how I'd go about doing it yet.

So anyone have any ideas/thoughts on this?

It reminds me of this House of the Dragon episode (game of thrones spin off series) where one of the dragon keepers was getting burned alive by the dragons fire and he took his knife out and sliced his throat.

Also please no one spoil I haven't been able to watch the last couple of episodes yet.

You will be already pass out before you suffocate, there will be only possible to feel heavy breathing what feels like if you maked a sprint. Read the threads and how the body works

 

[Tyra]

You will be already pass out before you suffocate, there will be only possible to feel heavy breathing what feels like if you maked a sprint. Read the threads and how the body works

I posted screenshots of someone who suffocated during SN CTB.

 

[Ultimatefighter]

the physical experience of sodium nitrite ingestion is not the same as mechanical suffocation from strangulation.

The Physical Difference

• Strangulation (Mechanical): This physically blocks the airway and the blood vessels in the neck. This causes a rapid, intense buildup of carbon dioxide (CO₂) in the blood. The brain senses this CO₂ buildup immediately, triggering a violent panic reflex, gasping, and a severe sensation of air hunger.
• Sodium Nitrite (Chemical): The physical airway remains completely open, and breathing movements continue normally. The suffocation happens entirely at a cellular level because the blood loses its ability to carry oxygen to organs. This progressive lack of oxygen to the brain typically leads to rapid dizziness, confusion, fatigue, and a loss of consciousness, rather than the mechanical panic of a blocked airway.

 

[Tyra]

SN will not feel like "suffocation" because it has nothing to do with your lungs

I posted screenshots of someone who suffocated during SN CTB.

the physical experience of sodium nitrite ingestion is not the same as mechanical suffocation from strangulation.

The Physical Difference

• Strangulation (Mechanical): This physically blocks the airway and the blood vessels in the neck. This causes a rapid, intense buildup of carbon dioxide (CO₂) in the blood. The brain senses this CO₂ buildup immediately, triggering a violent panic reflex, gasping, and a severe sensation of air hunger.
• Sodium Nitrite (Chemical): The physical airway remains completely open, and breathing movements continue normally. The suffocation happens entirely at a cellular level because the blood loses its ability to carry oxygen to organs. This progressive lack of oxygen to the brain typically leads to rapid dizziness, confusion, fatigue, and a loss of consciousness, rather than the mechanical panic of a blocked airway.

Don't use AI because it's not always correct.

 

[Ultimatefighter]

I posted screenshots of someone who suffocated during SN CTB.
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In all the research i did in surviving cases, i've never saw anyone say that, only heavy breathing, headache, dizziness, weak feeling, stomach pain and vomiting. Also most report to be passed out fairly quickly before such extreme pains where felt. It's rated 6/10 in comfertableness by PPH.

Did this person take an overdose? Or was it just a small amount for testing or a bad attempt. I think this can make a big difference in suffering since you would pass out much quicker
The sentence: 'i had that suffocation feeling. Partly because i was dry heaving to much to breath but also felt like air had no oxegen. Doesn't make any sense. What is meant by dry? And heaving to much to breath..

Maybe someone who has had a fail attempt according to the protocol and failed can reply to you with more clear answers.

For me i would not just believe one person who claims with such weird sentences and no proof of good protocol to accurate.

Read the thread: unsuccesfull/succesfull SN attempts before making any conclusions

 

[sadbh—itstimetogo🤎]

In all the research i did in surviving cases, i've never saw anyone say that, only heavy breathing, headache, dizziness, weak feeling, stomach pain and vomiting. Also most report to be passed out fairly quickly before such extreme pains where felt. It's rated 6/10 in comfertableness by PPH.

Did this person take an overdose? Or was it just a small amount for testing or a bad attempt. I think this can make a big difference in suffering since you would pass out much quicker
The sentence: 'i had that suffocation feeling. Partly because i was dry heaving to much to breath but also felt like air had no oxegen. Doesn't make any sense. What is meant by dry? And heaving to much to breath..

Maybe someone who has had a fail attempt according to the protocol and failed can reply to you with more clear answers.

For me i would not just believe one person who claims with such weird sentences and no proof of good protocol to accurate.

Read the thread: unsuccesfull/succesfull SN attempts before making any conclusions

Dry heaving means throwing up but nothing comes out, basically

I mean, your body is being starved of oxygen. Can see how respiration rate would increase. It would be more akin to hanging than drowning. It's that your cells don't get O2, not that you can't breathe.

 

[aunaltravita]

I posted screenshots of someone who suffocated during SN CTB.
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Don't use AI because it's not always correct.

Failed attempts are not what you should expect theoretically from SN.

The recommended amount is "recommended" because it will cut off some stages of SN poisoning, testing or ingesting a lesser amount of it will put you through all the more painful symptoms related to it (common in all failed attempts, and some successfull documented ones).

SN works by basically removing oxygen from your blood (not suffocation), by ingesting 25g (or 20g depending on your weight) your oxygen concentration will decrease rapidly and you will go unconscious faster and will feel less symptoms, otherwise its gon be slower and it's gon hurt more.

Also, knifes are messy.

 

[Ultimatefighter]

Dry heaving means throwing up but nothing comes out, basically

I mean, your body is being starved of oxygen. Can see how respiration rate would increase. It would be more akin to hanging than drowning. It's that your cells don't get O2, not that you can't breathe.

Yes and i've read also, to have a succesfull quick lost of consiousness depends on using a big overdose of SN and the fasting period where your stomach is clean to quickly send the SN to the bloodstream.

Also antimetic might help with the faster absorbtion of the chemical

What do you think about this case?

 

[sadbh—itstimetogo🤎]

Yes and i've read also, to have a succesfull quick lost of consiousness depends on using a big overdose of SN and the fasting period where your stomach is clean to quickly send the SN to the bloodstream.

Also antimetic might help with the faster absorbtion of the chemical

What do you think about this case?

Using one anecdote of someone saying they felt like they couldn't breathe isn't enough of a reason to assume that that's a universal experience when using SN.

 

[Tyra]

In all the research i did in surviving cases, i've never saw anyone say that, only heavy breathing, headache, dizziness, weak feeling, stomach pain and vomiting. Also most report to be passed out fairly quickly before such extreme pains where felt. It's rated 6/10 in comfertableness by PPH.

Did this person take an overdose? Or was it just a small amount for testing or a bad attempt. I think this can make a big difference in suffering since you would pass out much quicker
The sentence: 'i had that suffocation feeling. Partly because i was dry heaving to much to breath but also felt like air had no oxegen. Doesn't make any sense. What is meant by dry? And heaving to much to breath..

Maybe someone who has had a fail attempt according to the protocol and failed can reply to you with more clear answers.

For me i would not just believe one person who claims with such weird sentences and no proof of good protocol to accurate.

Read the thread: unsuccesfull/succesfull SN attempts before making any conclusions

They 100% followed the protocol…

 

[fluorescentpearl]

Stabbing your neck also would likely make you choke on blood, air and oxygen are necessary for life so it's only natural 80% of methods include some form of deprivation of it, if you don't want any breathing issues you'd have to get run over by a train or jump off a building and even then you might experience breath issues

 

[Tyra]

Failed attempts are not what you should expect theoretically from SN.

The recommended amount is "recommended" because it will cut off some stages of SN poisoning, testing or ingesting a lesser amount of it will put you through all the more painful symptoms related to it (common in all failed attempts, and some successfull documented ones).

SN works by basically removing oxygen from your blood (not suffocation), by ingesting 25g (or 20g depending on your weight) your oxygen concentration will decrease rapidly and you will go unconscious faster and will feel less symptoms, otherwise its gon be slower and it's gon hurt more.

Also, knifes are messy.

He took the recommended dose and followed 100% of the protocol

Stabbing your neck also would likely make you choke on blood, air and oxygen are necessary for life so it's only natural 80% of methods include some form of deprivation of it, if you don't want any breathing issues you'd have to get run over by a train or jump off a building and even then you might experience breath issues

Not if I don't hit the windpipe.

 

[Ultimatefighter]

He took the recommended dose and followed 100% of the protocol

Not if I don't hit the windpipe.

I guess we should not come to quickly to conclusions by one person claiming this.

If people who survived and know what it feels like can respond here please do we get more of a reference.

 

[aunaltravita]

He took the recommended dose and followed 100% of the protocol

Not if I don't hit the windpipe.

Look, instead of using a knife in combo with SN just try Full or Partial hanging if you really, really, really need to use another method.

SN Is pretty reliable, it's science, and don't take one example as truth, look at the bigger picture and read more experiences if you didn't do it yet (failed and successfully).

Your SI is strong, just like everyone else, don't mess yourself up with a knife if you're afraid as that can actually worsen your CTB and make you suffer more or look into other methods...

Get benzos if you can, to get sleepy.

Also, it's hard for someone to ingest 20/25g and still be alive...I'm not saying that that user is lying but for him/her to survive it has to be a miracle or a protocol not followed as it should.
Failed attempts can make people feel shameful and all sorts of emotions, you should also keep that in mind as that would not be the first time that someone failed and didn't actually tell the whole story.


Full hanging seems even more reliable than SN, but personally I don't have the guts to do it

 

[Tyra]

Look, instead of using a knife in combo with SN just try Full or Partial hanging if you really, really, really need to use another method.

SN Is pretty reliable, it's science, and don't take one example as truth, look at the bigger picture and read more experiences if you didn't do it yet (failed and successfully).

Your SI is strong, just like everyone else, don't mess yourself up with a knife if you're afraid as that can actually worsen your CTB and make you suffer more or look into other methods...

Get benzos if you can, to get sleepy.

Also, it's hard for someone to ingest 20/25g and still be alive...I'm not saying that that user is lying but for him/her to survive it has to be a miracle or a protocol not followed as it should.
Failed attempts can make people feel shameful and all sorts of emotions, you should also keep that in mind as that would not be the first time that someone failed and didn't actually tell the whole story.


Full hanging seems even more reliable than SN, but personally I don't have the guts to do it

He threw up that's why he survived… despite taking meto and following protocol.

I can't do hanging because I don't want to feel like I can't breath.

 

[aunaltravita]

He threw up that's why he survived… despite taking meto and following protocol.

I can't do hanging because I don't want to feel like I can't breath.

That happened to other documented SN cases and some were still successfull. Still, don't just trust one source, look at the bigger picture and draw your conclusions from there, it's important to do your research about it, at least for me.

People died just by ingesting 1/2 grams.

But, I'd look into other methods, just because most of them involve cutting oxygen in some way or another. It ain't easy at all :)

 

[Tyra]

That happened to other documented SN cases and some were still successfull. Still, don't just trust one source, look at the bigger picture and draw your conclusions from there, it's important to do your research about it, at least for me.

People died just by ingesting 1/2 grams.

But, I'd look into other methods, just because most of them involve cutting oxygen in some way or another. It ain't easy at all :)

The problem is I don't want to feel like I can't breath after taking SN

 

[aunaltravita]

The problem is I don't want to feel like I can't breath after taking SN

That's why you should take into consideration also the other methods but keeping in mind that most of them involve some sort of oxygen deficit :)

 

[Tyra]

That's why you should take into consideration also the other methods but keeping in mind that most of them involve some sort of oxygen deficit :)

Bud why are you putting smiling emojis after saying this shit it's lowkey weird.

 

[Ultimatefighter]

That

He threw up that's why he survived… despite taking meto and following protocol.

I can't do hanging because I don't want to feel like I can't breath.

Make sure to have second cup ready to drink after you throw up

 

[fluorescentpearl]

Bud why are you putting smiling emojis after saying this shit it's lowkey weird.

Because they're trying to be polite to you even when you keep repeating the same thing over and over

 

[Ultimatefighter]

That's why you should take into consideration also the other methods but keeping in mind that most of them involve some sort of oxygen deficit :)

But the oxegen deficit for SN is way different from for example hanging or drowning, it has nothing to do with the lungs. The system of suffocation is not triggert like with hanging where C02 cannot be released. I think with SN the kind of panic is much less worse than the mechanical suffocation

 

[Tyra]

Because they're trying to be polite to you even when you keep repeating the same thing over and over

I just wanted some consolation geez

 

[SouzaBr]

I posted screenshots of someone who suffocated during SN CTB.
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Have you ever considered that she could've had a panic attack or a anxiety crisis? The syptoms can fit in what she said about the feeling of no oxygen in the air.

 

[Estrella87]

So your plan is to slit your throat or stab yourself if you start to suffocate after taking sn? Seems very "hardcore" and the knife may hurt you more than the SN but if it can reassure you, why not. It may work even if in practice, I beieve that if you start to suffocate, it will be hard to end your suffering with a knife as it's something very hard to do.

 

[aunaltravita]

Bud why are you putting smiling emojis after saying this shit it's lowkey weird.

BRUH I get that you're stressed out but don't lash out on me :)

You got to compromise, there is no cyanide and no nembutal anymore, you gotta find a way with what you have and the methods are these...

CO if done right is like falling asleep immediately, no suffocation or anything IF done right