serious question: what's wrong with toaster bath?

[FF777]

people are always trying to find a quick and easy and painless method..... Well, electricity is kind of dangerous, and you are supposed to avoid using things like hair dryers in the bathtub because what if you drop it and you get electrocued? then you would be dead, and that wouldn't be very good now would it.......

so but seriously, i know this is a naive question maybe, but as long as the toaster or electrical appliance isn't plugged in to one of those safety sockets with the reset/test buttons, then what is wrong with just dropping an electrical appliance in to the bathtub?.. i think the electricity would kill your heart instantly or some thing?.. can some expert on this tell me why this isn't the #1 method instead of having to do things like find SN sources and stuff?..

hell, now that i think of it...... as far as quick and easy and painless..... what if some one is walking around outside like "la la laa....... oops i accidentally fell down on to these random railroad tracks right before a train ran over them"............

i'm thinking there must actually be simple and easy methods in actuality and maybe most people are making it too complicated some times?.. i dunno, enlighten me..

 

[hdead]

Circuit breakers are a thing.

 

[larpex]

They dont sound like great ways to ctb

 

[FF777]

Circuit breakers are a thing.

do those always flip off in time to make toaster bath useless then or what?.. and even if they do wouldn't you be fine?.. and plus, you could just drill a small metal link thingy to the switch or what ever so that it can't possibly flip to the off position..

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

But seriously, it would just ruin the toaster.

 

[nettspend]

Regarding electrocution, I do wonder why no people seem to consider the third rail? If you have a metro system in your city, you can simply go on the tracks, hold onto the third rail with one hand, and the tracks with the other -- boom! I've heard of MULTIPLE graffiti writers accidently dying this way.

Probably not a great way to die though, in terms of peacefulness, as you get fucking toasted alive.

 

[un.exist]

Well, it's not instant. It causes agonising pain and intense muscle spasms.

You'd have to create an arm to arm path for the electricity to cross over your chest to have a chance at this. Water, in its pure form is not a good conductor. You'd have to add lots of salt which drops resistance and can actually allow a fatal shock else you'd just feel a stinging or have some burn.

Even then, it's not a guarantee, you'd likely end up with severe burns, disfigurement, etc. If your heart stops, you could be resuscitated and survive with brain damage.

And this is all assuming there aren't any GFCI outlets, circuit breakers won't really stop anything. You can be fatally shocked at less than an ampere if voltage is high and resistance is low (the reason for the salty water)

 

[hdead]

do those always flip off in time to make toaster bath useless then or what?.. and even if they do wouldn't you be fine?.. and plus, you could just drill a small metal link thingy to the switch or what ever so that it can't possibly flip to the off position..

They flip off at, and even if the switch can't move there is a secundary and even tertiary safety built into modern circuit breakers.

 

[FF777]

Well, it's not instant. It causes agonising pain and intense muscle spasms.

You'd have to create an arm to arm path for the electricity to cross over your chest to have a chance at this. Water, in its pure form is not a good conductor. You'd have to add lots of salt which drops resistance and can actually allow a fatal shock else you'd just feel a stinging or have some burn.

Even then, it's not a guarantee, you'd likely end up with severe burns, disfigurement, etc. If your heart stops, you could be resuscitated and survive with brain damage.

And this is all assuming there aren't any GFCI outlets, circuit breakers won't really stop anything. You can be fatally shocked at less than an ampere if voltage is high and resistance is low (the reason for the salty water)

do you know what would happen if some one cut a cord to some appliance in half and used the half that has the plug, and with the side that is cut they strip it to expose the wires and duct-tape one (positive) wire to one wrist, and the other wire (negative) to the other wrist, and then plug the thing in to a (non-GFCI) wall socket? it would just be electricity straight on to your skin i guess.. would that do any thing?..

 

[un.exist]

do you know what would happen if some one cut a cord to some appliance in half and used the half that has the plug, and with the side that is cut they strip it to expose the wires and duct-tape one (positive) wire to one wrist, and the other wire (negative) to the other wrist, and then plug the thing in to a (non-GFCI) wall socket? it would just be electricity straight on to your skin i guess.. would that do any thing?..

Well, it's still messy

The muscle spasms are really violent (people get thrown across a room, bones broken, etc) , the tape could come off or the plug could get pulled.
It would also be really really painful. Say, maybe the current passes through the heart, (that's a big maybe btw) then yeah it would be excruciating 10 or so seconds before you're unconscious. If it doesn't pass through the heart, then you'd be in pain till something physically breaks the connection, maybe a muscle spasm breaking the tape or sth, if nothing breaks the connection, then you could essentially be killed, you'd be cooked alive though.

 

[LongJacks]

Ik a guy who got electrocuted because he put his finger in a socket and he didn't die, almost exploded his finger off though

 

[Forveleth]

do you know what would happen if some one cut a cord to some appliance in half and used the half that has the plug, and with the side that is cut they strip it to expose the wires and duct-tape one (positive) wire to one wrist, and the other wire (negative) to the other wrist, and then plug the thing in to a (non-GFCI) wall socket? it would just be electricity straight on to your skin i guess.. would that do any thing?..

It is still going to flip the switch in the circuit box in your house.

 

[9mmisglutenfree]

am electrician and have been shocked, many times (big difference between shock and electrocution). peaceful it is not, you literally cook while your muscles tense up so hard you can't do anything about it. explosions are possible and it's all-around not a good time.

 

[thekop85]

Reality may not be like a movie.
As soon as an electrical leak occurs in the bathtub,
your home's earth leakage circuit breaker (ELB) will trip.
It is highly likely that you will fail to perform a CTB and will be left with injuries and disabilities caused by electric shock.
In a 220V environment, it is extremely rare for a person to die instantly from an electric shock. Even if you were to be electrocuted, it would take a very long time to die, and the process would be accompanied by immense pain.
If you want to die instantly from an electric shock, you would have to expose yourself to ultra-high-voltage currents, such as those found in a building's main distribution panel, a transformer, or a power transmission line.
These are places that are not easily accessible to the general public.

 

[brokennsad]

people are always trying to find a quick and easy and painless method..... Well, electricity is kind of dangerous, and you are supposed to avoid using things like hair dryers in the bathtub because what if you drop it and you get electrocued? then you would be dead, and that wouldn't be very good now would it.......

so but seriously, i know this is a naive question maybe, but as long as the toaster or electrical appliance isn't plugged in to one of those safety sockets with the reset/test buttons, then what is wrong with just dropping an electrical appliance in to the bathtub?.. i think the electricity would kill your heart instantly or some thing?.. can some expert on this tell me why this isn't the #1 method instead of having to do things like find SN sources and stuff?..

hell, now that i think of it...... as far as quick and easy and painless..... what if some one is walking around outside like "la la laa....... oops i accidentally fell down on to these random railroad tracks right before a train ran over them"............

i'm thinking there must actually be simple and easy methods in actuality and maybe most people are making it too complicated some times?.. i dunno, enlighten me..

Toaster in bath is only in the movies. Yea gfci in the bathroom would cut the electricity. N definitely getting hit by a train would be painless...not