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UnluckyYogi
Brain damage from antipsychotics
- Aug 2, 2024
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What you quoted from Eckhart Tolle is probably the main reason I'm avoiding CTB.I read a book by a Buddhist teacher who had been struck by chronic illness. She said that the positive in enduring illness is that you are in the throes of clearing karma. But what if you cant endure it? If the suffering is so great and has so many layers that you are suffering on multiple fronts. That even the life/home situation you are in is causing you suffering. I still wonder how this can be reflecting a karma of someone I believe is not so awful, or been so awful in previous lifetimes, that they earnt this. So then are we really taking what must be an immense karmic debt and compounding it with more through ctb?
I can go along with the concept of continuing the journey where we left off if we terminate early. But if we havent coped with this level of suffering this time, we're unlikely to again.
And where does the concept of a self-organising universe come in? Everything is interactive and outcomes emerge from the complex whole. So its not just our actions we are wearing the consequences of. As someone said they whether something is viewed positively or negatively is partly circumstantial, but also what you do is highly interdependent with others actions, locally and non-locally. Quantum physics talks to entanglement and non-locality. Many of its concepts overlap those of spiritual traditions. We are a giant information store (cf. the book Science and the Alashic field) interacting, co-creating futures and sharing experiences. If, as many traditions talk to, we are One, then we are simply fragments. Can karma be truly an individual thing then? Or is it more beneficial to the whole, for us to continue exploring what we had been experiencing, or contributing through into our next life. Which again talks to us being independent life forms.
And all of these ponderings are based on human frameworks and theories based, as someone said, on the tiniest of understandings of the life that has existed down the ages of this universe. We can only use our current capacities to explore understanding. And we shift that every time we learn more. So we are nowhere near able to even imagine what other possibilities there are for how this is all working. Maybe Quantum mechanics is closer. For now. Energy, all interacting and sharing information in order to create a continual fractal of expansion called life. Where does this energy field exist? Is this the 'afterlife'?
I do fear the karmic debt. Becoz so many traditions and religions talk to it. Even if I'm not sure of karma itself. Eckhart Tolle even said "you ctb to relieve yourself from suffering, with no ability to imagine what worse suffering could wait for you on the other side". Shit
Its hard to reconcile. All made more sense before I got sick. Earning things and paying consequences.
So is the karmic thing impacting people's thoughts of ctb? Dissuading you?
What if you'll get a worse existence next life? or you'll get worse life as a punishment for CTB? nobody knows for sure, but I prefer not to risk it.