reddit collapse: doomposting or plausible?

[underthedatetree]

/r/collapse seems to think with global warming sealife will die off and the land will dry and/or be ravaged by unusual now usual natural disasters and exponential corporate greed, fun civil water wars in our rapidly expanded mojave landscape the next decade or 2. I'm too suicidal to research the sources or think critically about it, but even I know as history shows all empires fall eventually. What do you think? Do you think the world is on the brink of the end? Or do you think they're kind of like us, passively suicidal people who doompost because they wish the world to end to justify giving up? Option C neither? Option DEFG other?

 

[Darkover]

This world is coming to an end

we've got less than 200 years to get out into space and bring resources back otherwise we will be stuck on this rock without any resources

rising sea levels, depleting fish stocks, population,soil erosion, global warming ,deforestation,
running out of sand,running out of helium,coral reef destruction,increase of mental illness,
fresh drinking water running out, trend is towards an older population,declining of births rates,
decline of sperm count in men,the world's rare earth metals are running out,Increasing total debt,
Increasing unemployment, collapse of ecosystems and loss of biodiversity,
chemical pollution of the Earth system, including the atmosphere and oceans, depletion of resources,


natrual gas we could estimate that the proven reserves would last for approximately 53 years


According to data from the BP Statistical Review of World Energy (2021), the world had about 50.9 years of proven oil reserves at the end of 2020, based on the then-current production rates.

there's 7,500,000,000,000,000,000 grains of sand on the earth weighing around 10 trillion tons


50,000,000,000,000, 50 billion kg of sand used per year
8,000,000,000 population
6,250 number of kg per year per person
17 kg per day per person

we have around 150 years worth of sand left


There are an estimated 3.5 trillion fish in the ocean.
around 124 billion individual fish are now slaughtered each year.
More than 350,000 fish are born every day thats 127 million fish per year
at current rates of fishing we have around 50 years worth of fish left

3 trillion trees on earth, 15 billion cut down per year we have at most 230 years worth of trees left

15 billion trees
An estimated 15 billion trees are cut down each year—more than 41 million trees per day. Given this pace of land degradation, it's hard to imagine how traditional reforestation methods, which rely on the hand-planting of live seedlings, could ever keep up.

According to compiled statistics, including the United Nations Environmental Program, approximately 1.9 billion trees are planted yearly.

that mean we lose around 13 billion trees per year we have at most 230 years worth of trees left

 

[sserafim]

Meh if there's collapse it's not my concern lol. All good things must come to an end though, and this world has entropy so everything is tending towards disorder and eventual decay. It's just a matter of time…

 

[rozeske]

Ii won't be too long and it's about damn time!

 

[broth0100]

None of the problems ravaging our humanities r getting better any time soon thts for sure. Ur profile photo is so cute btw i love u rotating chihuahua..

 

[Agon321]

Everything falls down sooner or later. According to current hypotheses, even the entire visible universe will die. Everything has a beginning and an end. Life cycle. One question arises: why? We are too primitive a species to know the answer at this point.
Alternatively, maybe we are wrong and this cycle can be overcome? It's hard to tell.

 

[UKscotty]

I don't know if it's more scary that apparently the last human to face old age is already and alive on the planet today. Aging will be stopped within 20 years. What are we going to do with all the humans if we stop aging? We will run out of resources ridiculously fast.

 

[sserafim]

Everything falls down sooner or later. According to current hypotheses, even the entire visible universe will die. Everything has a beginning and an end. Life cycle. One question arises: why? We are too primitive a species to know the answer at this point.
Alternatively, maybe we are wrong and this cycle can be overcome? It's hard to tell.

The cycle repeats itself though

 

[Darkover]

Aging will be stopped within 20 years.

good luck with that in 20 years we will still be dying of old age I doubt we will ever achieve immortality considering people die just from swallowing food the wrong way, the only thing that will be immortal is AI in 50 years

 

[UKscotty]

good luck with that in 20 years we will still be dying of old age I doubt we will ever achieve immortality considering people die just from swallowing food the wrong way, the only thing that will be immortal is AI in 50 years

Not immortal in a movie sense.. I think its highly likely that they will stop old age, I'd be surprised if it even takes 20 years now.

 

[Darkover]

I'd be surprised if it even takes 20 years now.

you're an optimist I am a realist how do you think they are going to stop aging altogether everything in this universe decays over time or breaks down, eyesight lose sight, ears go deaf, muscle loses size and strength as we get older, i could go on

 

[Homo erectus]

They said x years ago oil would run in y years (y < x). This year they slow down EV and say hybrid cars using oil is best for the environment. And they fly to environment conferences in private jets.

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

People have been playing up this collapse shit forever. I remember reading an old encyclopedia from the 70's when I was a kid, and according to that, we're supposed to now be completely out of both silver and oil, for example. All these projections are meaningless. Nobody can anticipate how climate change will go with 100% accuracy, and it's difficult to determine how much of it we as humans are responsible for anyway.

In any case, with this massive eco drive underway, it seems unlikely that we'll cook ourselves in some type of global warming calamity. I imagine within 50 years we'll be running cars and planes at zero emissions one way or another, and anything else that looks to be even remotely detrimental to the environment will have long been erased as a result of strict measures that are basically already slated for deployment over the next several decades.

 

[Argo]

I think r/collapse is the most naively optimistic subreddit that exists. The modern, secular version of ancient apocalypse myths(which have a specific purpose, it's why almost every religion and culture for thousands of years have always insisted that the end of the world is coming-- because if it wasn't, you would fucking fall to your knees in existential terror knowing that this hell is in fact unstoppable)

It's not all bad-- because all attempts to stop the hell, only ever make things worse. That's a feature of hell. Road, paved, blah blah.

 

[DreamEnd]

I think r/collapse is the most naively optimistic subreddit that exists. The modern, secular version of ancient apocalypse myths(which have a specific purpose, it's why almost every religion and culture for thousands of years have always insisted that the end of the world is coming-- because if it wasn't, you would fucking fall to your knees in existential terror knowing that this hell is in fact unstoppable)

It's not all bad-- because all attempts to stop the hell, only ever make things worse. That's a feature of hell. Road, paved, blah blah.

I don't think there are many religious people today who believe in the apocalypse myths especially after the 2012 Mayan prediction failed miserably

 

[sserafim]

I don't think there are many religious people today who believe in the apocalypse myths especially after the 2012 Mayan prediction failed miserably

Omg I remember this. Everyone thought that the world was going to end (but it didn't lol)

 

[locked*n*loaded]

and this world has entropy

Exactly.

 

[SoulCage]

Everytime I see the graph that shows average temperatures (sea and land) for each year I think... That doesn't look right. Scientists say that there will be severe consequences for the ecosystems and it all seems very plausible. But humans can adapt. It is and always has been survival of the fittest, so I don't believe that there will be a total collapse, but potentially a lot of sacrifices and more fighting for resources.
I know it has been like this since the beginning of civilization and even today there are still regions that are constantly fighting over land/resources, but the majority of the world's population does currently not have to live in fear of non-human predators or starvation. Also, many people have access to luxury and adequate healthcare.. I don't have sources to quote, but I learned that it is likely that many regions will become uninhabitable and people will have to move to regions where life is sustainable. But... It is well known how societies react to refugees. How it seems to be impossible to have multiple cultures and religions to co-exist. The people who hold the advantages can do whatever they want. And in my experience... Nothing is given to you for free. You have to fight for it by any means necessary.

Humanity may not collapse, but for the majority of people quality of life will no longer improve as it used to, maybe even decline compared to the last century.

That being said, I think the people posting on the reddit also just want to discuss their thoughts with like-minded people. They might be sick of the green-washing propaganda, that everything is going to be "okay" somehow. They have anxiety because they don't know how to prepare and accepting the doom is a way of dealing with it.

 

[druggedonsurvival]

I don't think that it's going to end in our lifetimes but in general life is going to get worse because of the climatic changes that are already inevitable regardless of what we do now or in the future. That subreddit tends to exaggerate with its predictions of how soon we will "collapse" as a species but it will happen in the not-too-distant future given the way things are going. If us younger people live out our whole lives we might see the beginning of the end, as it were. We're definitely screwed, it's just a much slower, more gradual process than people make it out to be.