DetachedDreamer97
Enlightened
- Mar 17, 2018
- 1,402
So, I decided I'm going to be using my "original" method that's based on DDMP. My first plan is to extract the cardenolide from the pong pong 6 seeds I bought.
So far, I've crushed them with a mortar and pestle and from the looks of it, it was like an oily paste, even after attempting to dry them in the oven. So, I decided to wash them a few times in a non-polar solvent, like N-Heptane. It's dry now, although I did lose a bit of yield due to some mishaps. But... it shouldn't be to consequential. I'm down to about 100 mls of heptane, as I believe this might not be enough to completely defat the seed material. So I'm perhaps gonna save that for after I just do a dry ethanol extract. It's in the ethanol solution right now, and as I've anticipated, there is some brown in the solvent.
I've made a previous attempt before, with less defatting, but despite actually getting a 1.7 of the 10:1 extract, it was brown and oily. And even more so when I decided to check on it a week or so later. But on the off chance it's salvageable and things go wrong that results in a loss of yield.
Based on what the sites told me, Cerberin is soluble in acetone, alcohol, ethyl acetate, sparingly soluble in water, and practically insoluble in petroleum ether, and should be so in heptane since it has the same polarity. Another to know is that it crystallizes in ethanol.
When one does extractions from a pong pong seed, they'd use a 50:50 mixure of ethanol and ethyl acetate. However, I don't have ethyl acetate. But I do have everclear (95%alcohol) and 500 ml of pure acetone. The one issue I have is, that when an alcohol and acetone is mixed, it would react and produce a hemiacetal. I do not know what it means (for the lack of a better word), but... would it work okay if I combine it as an alternative as acetone is a substitute for ethyl acetate? Or should I keep it seperated?
Regarding the potential resinous oil that'll come with the extract, would it work to defat it? How do I avoid losing the yield in the process?
This post is already a mess and perhaps this is a stupid question, so forgive me.
Has anyone around here even done this effectively before?
So far, I've crushed them with a mortar and pestle and from the looks of it, it was like an oily paste, even after attempting to dry them in the oven. So, I decided to wash them a few times in a non-polar solvent, like N-Heptane. It's dry now, although I did lose a bit of yield due to some mishaps. But... it shouldn't be to consequential. I'm down to about 100 mls of heptane, as I believe this might not be enough to completely defat the seed material. So I'm perhaps gonna save that for after I just do a dry ethanol extract. It's in the ethanol solution right now, and as I've anticipated, there is some brown in the solvent.
I've made a previous attempt before, with less defatting, but despite actually getting a 1.7 of the 10:1 extract, it was brown and oily. And even more so when I decided to check on it a week or so later. But on the off chance it's salvageable and things go wrong that results in a loss of yield.
Based on what the sites told me, Cerberin is soluble in acetone, alcohol, ethyl acetate, sparingly soluble in water, and practically insoluble in petroleum ether, and should be so in heptane since it has the same polarity. Another to know is that it crystallizes in ethanol.
When one does extractions from a pong pong seed, they'd use a 50:50 mixure of ethanol and ethyl acetate. However, I don't have ethyl acetate. But I do have everclear (95%alcohol) and 500 ml of pure acetone. The one issue I have is, that when an alcohol and acetone is mixed, it would react and produce a hemiacetal. I do not know what it means (for the lack of a better word), but... would it work okay if I combine it as an alternative as acetone is a substitute for ethyl acetate? Or should I keep it seperated?
Regarding the potential resinous oil that'll come with the extract, would it work to defat it? How do I avoid losing the yield in the process?
This post is already a mess and perhaps this is a stupid question, so forgive me.
Has anyone around here even done this effectively before?
