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DarkRange55

DarkRange55

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Oct 15, 2023
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Time to piss some people off

Personality tests are just horoscopes for men. Those things don't mean anything. You can get different answers depending on how your mood is. There is no personality test that you can take that will tell you what kind of person you. You are not a type. There is no such thing as a type of person really. You are an ephemeral ever changing collection of attributes that shifts. We don't even have a scientific definition of consciousness. We don't know why you fall asleep and wake up and have a continuity of experience. You think we know how to categorize a person based on their personality? We don't know what you are. Labels for different human mechanisms of anxiety: OCD, ADHD, PTSD, etc
 
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pyx

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Jun 5, 2024
617
it's probably wrong to say that the individual (or ego) is a complete nonentity, but i generally agree that the way in which we measure indicators of certain archetypes is largely dependent on self-analysis. people model their own behaviour on how they should like to be perceived, which totals to an effort on the part of the individual to distinguish themselves

we might not be able to explain how consciousness arises, nor even define it sufficiently, but we can agree that it certainly must exist, no?
 
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wCvML2

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Nov 15, 2021
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If personality tests were true, then they could predict what job best fits an individual like in Futurama but then freedom of choice would be taken away simply because the super-computer would know what's best for us. I don't know what's worse: not knowing and most likely making the less favorable choice or knowing and not having a choice.
 
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GuessWhosBack

GuessWhosBack

The sun rises to insult me.
Jul 15, 2024
452
Can you make a thread on psychometry please 🥺 🥺 🥺
 
AbusedInnocent

AbusedInnocent

Enemy brain ain't cooperating
Apr 5, 2024
255
That's true, everyone is unique in so many ways, you can't just categorize personalities/types of intelligence into a few dozen types and all attempts to do so have failed.

Don't know why anyone takes these tests seriously when they're all pseudoscience, the only real useful metric is IQ even though it's limited and flawed as well.
 
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Kavka

Student
Jun 11, 2024
141
Yeah, luckily I'm an INTJ, so I don't believe in this nonsense and pseudoscience!
 
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sugarb

sugarb

thief of silent dreams
Jun 14, 2024
794
Time to piss some people off

Personality tests are just horoscopes for men. Those things don't mean anything. You can get different answers depending on how your mood is. There is no personality test that you can take that will tell you what kind of person you. You are not a type. There is no such thing as a type of person really. You are an ephemeral ever changing collection of attributes that shifts. We don't even have a scientific definition of consciousness. We don't know why you fall asleep and wake up and have a continuity of experience. You think we know how to categorize a person based on their personality? We don't know what you are. Labels for different human mechanisms of anxiety: OCD, ADHD, PTSD, etc
I used to hang out on the 16Personalities forums and roleplay there over Covid, it was fun lol

Also, personality tests definitely aren't a boy's club 😆 in my experience stuff like Meyer's-Brigg's is pretty evenly split and most horoscope girls I know are also into personality tests

I'd say the whole sigma male thing is a better fit as a male horoscope. Some parts of pop psychology also fit
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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Time to piss some people off

Personality tests are just horoscopes for men. Those things don't mean anything. You can get different answers depending on how your mood is. There is no personality test that you can take that will tell you what kind of person you. You are not a type. There is no such thing as a type of person really. You are an ephemeral ever changing collection of attributes that shifts. We don't even have a scientific definition of consciousness. We don't know why you fall asleep and wake up and have a continuity of experience. You think we know how to categorize a person based on their personality? We don't know what you are. Labels for different human mechanisms of anxiety: OCD, ADHD, PTSD, etc
I completely agree with this stance. And I wonder where you went @DarkRange55
I hope you are doing fine. You are really mysterious.
 
Plentiful_Despair

Plentiful_Despair

Experienced
Aug 23, 2024
261
Yeah, "Personality" is non-existent. There are tendencies of action/reaction, if even that.
 
Pluto

Pluto

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Dec 27, 2020
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temporal_anchorite

wanting outta this bitch
Sep 23, 2022
178
Time to piss some people off

Personality tests are just horoscopes for men. Those things don't mean anything. You can get different answers depending on how your mood is. There is no personality test that you can take that will tell you what kind of person you. You are not a type. There is no such thing as a type of person really. You are an ephemeral ever changing collection of attributes that shifts. We don't even have a scientific definition of consciousness. We don't know why you fall asleep and wake up and have a continuity of experience. You think we know how to categorize a person based on their personality? We don't know what you are. Labels for different human mechanisms of anxiety: OCD, ADHD, PTSD, etc
Uh, no.

I don't think you understand what personality tests actually are and seem to be conflating personality typology (MBTI, enneagram) with legitimate & rigorously tested personality inventories like the OCEAN Big Five, NEO PI-R, HEXACO, or even the MMPI-3 (although that one is typically reserved for diagnosing personality disorders). Like it or not, these personality models have demonstrated to be quite accurate and reliable.
 
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Ashu

Ashu

novelist, sanskritist, Canadian living in India
Nov 13, 2021
936
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Yeah, "Personality" is non-existent. There are tendencies of action/reaction, if even that.
Well, that's like saying that there are no things because entityhood is just a concept that our minds project on a world of undifferentiated chaos: ultimately philosophically true, perhaps, but practically meaningless.
 
GuessWhosBack

GuessWhosBack

The sun rises to insult me.
Jul 15, 2024
452
Uh, no.

I don't think you understand what personality tests actually are and seem to be conflating personality typology (MBTI, enneagram) with legitimate & rigorously tested personality inventories like the OCEAN Big Five, NEO PI-R, HEXACO, or even the MMPI-3 (although that one is typically reserved for diagnosing personality disorders). Like it or not, these personality models have demonstrated to be quite accurate and reliable.
Agreed, which is why I suggested they do a thread on psychometry ;)

Then again it's not completely clear to me whether they were referring to the online personality quizzes (that are cringe) or the validated inventories used in clinical assessment.
 
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pyx

Wizard
Jun 5, 2024
617
it's probably wrong to say that the individual (or ego) is a complete nonentity, but i generally agree that the way in which we measure indicators of certain archetypes is largely dependent on self-analysis. people model their own behaviour on how they should like to be perceived, which totals to an effort on the part of the individual to distinguish themselves

we might not be able to explain how consciousness arises, nor even define it sufficiently, but we can agree that it certainly must exist, no?
no longer agree with this. personality is not the totality of characteristics which influence how you might behave in a given scenario. it is built on independent observers; and a material attribution -- the threshold for which an ideal observer might assign the same characteristic to an individual, depending on their behaviour -- is the minima for which characteristics can be assigned in a practical way

personality exists to balance and eliminate undesirable social qualities, the loci of which are derived from independent wants. the attribution is never static; the inarticulable characteristics which form habits of action are, but these i don't think are in any way measurable. though i don't really know enough about personality testing to begin with. outside of the rigorously empirical setting, they are pretty much horoscopes
 
Gangrel

Gangrel

bark bark ᯓ★
Jul 25, 2024
687
I hate those as well, if it's not telling me what fruit i am based on my song choices then it's useless. I had to take one for my job and i had to pretend the guy knew me so well after like 20 questions, fuck off with that shit.
 
pilotviolin

pilotviolin

looking to the horizon
Jan 27, 2024
361
i agree to an extent but hell if they arent an effective way to pass time
 
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