Nitrogen Method-22 Minutes of Horror

[Meditation guide]

Hopefully people here have chosen not to proceed with the nitrogen method based on the reports of the disastrous and horrific execution of a prisoner in the U.S.

Just because it was suggested as peaceful by the Peaceful Pill Handbook does not mean that it is the last word on this subject. Here is someone who witnessed a death by this method. The man in this video has seen five executions and he said this is the most violent one.

 

[Chelsea Leng]

I hope more memebers here who want to go with Nitrogen method get to watch this video
it's not as peaceful as jumping.

 

[uzuf86]

This news topic was discussed a few weeks ago in detail. Inert gas methods are indeed peaceful, and it all depends on the setup. If you make it so that you breathe oxygen along with nitrogen, it takes longer and you might suffocate and not become unconscious as soon as you expect.
If the setup does not dispose off the exhaled carbon dioxide and instead make you breathe it again, it will be really painful.

There was an impression that the setup done in this person's case wasn't quite right

 

[Tears in Rain]

That execution has been debated in several threads before. Enough has been said about the reasons why this wasn't 'peaceful', the main one being, he resisted big-time. He fought as hard as he could to resist.

The above guy in the video talks about seeing the man "hitting his face against the face mask over and over". That doesn't make sense. The mask shouldn't move at all, it should be strapped tightly to the face. So, either the guy is exaggerating, or the setup used was poorly done.

Just because it was suggested as peaceful by the Peaceful Pill Handbook does not mean that it is the last word on this subject.

It's not just the PPH. Dignitas did a study of 4 people who died by assisted suicide via helium and oxygen masks. It's been mentioned a couple of times before on the inert gas megathread:
Conclusion:
"The dying process of oxygen deprivation with helium is potentially quick and appears painless."

Someone tested how long it took to go unconscious with a SCUBA setup, connected to nitrogen. They held their mask to their mouth without strapping the mask. After a few breaths they went unconscious. The mask fell away, as planned, and they woke up on the ground. No mention of any pain.

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[Intoxicated]

Hopefully people here have chosen not to proceed with the nitrogen method based on the reports of the disastrous and horrific execution of a prisoner in the U.S.

Hopefully, smart people just ignore cheap speculations around that involuntary euthanasia with spectacular prisoner's performance.

Just because it was suggested as peaceful by the Peaceful Pill Handbook does not mean that it is the last word on this subject.

Luckily, PPH is not the only source of information about the effects of asphyxiant gases we have. There are multiple articles and videos that provide evidences in favor of the absence of any significant discomfort in case of exposure to very low concentrations of oxygen. For example,

If oxygen deficiency occurs due to the presence of an inert gas such as nitrogen, helium, argon, etc., a drop in physical/mental efficiency occurs without the person's knowledge; at approximately 6% oxygen concentration in air (instead of the normal 20.9% concentration), fainting occurs without any warning.​

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At less than a 6% concentration, there is a very high risk that death due to asphyxiation will occur within a few minutes, unless resuscitation is carried out immediately.​

Source: Asia Industrial Gases Association, https://www.asiaiga.org/uploaded_docs/en_AIGA_008_18_Hazards_of_Oxygen-Deficient_Atmospheres.pdf

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

I hope more memebers here who want to go with Nitrogen method get to watch this video
it's not as peaceful as jumping.

Jumping isn't all that. I've read reports from survivors who regretted jumping half way down. Maybe some sort of si, but it keeps me from jumping... (And the fact that my family won't have an open casket.)

That execution has been debated in several threads before. Enough has been said about the reasons why this wasn't 'peaceful', the main one being, he resisted big-time. He fought as hard as he could to resist.

The above guy in the video talks about seeing the man "hitting his face against the face mask over and over". That doesn't make sense. The mask shouldn't move at all, it should be strapped tightly to the face. So, either the guy is exaggerating, or the setup used was poorly done.


It's not just the PPH. Dignitas did a study of 4 people who died by assisted suicide via helium and oxygen masks. It's been mentioned a couple of times before on the inert gas megathread:
Conclusion:
"The dying process of oxygen deprivation with helium is potentially quick and appears painless."

Someone tested how long it took to go unconscious with a SCUBA setup, connected to nitrogen. They held their mask to their mouth without strapping the mask. After a few breaths they went unconscious. The mask fell away, as planned, and they woke up on the ground. No mention of any pain.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Znk3qt9opyw/X4zE0YcjsGI/AAAAAAAAAU4/IPNzNYDLXeEKdMjyodRdV_zrUztLe7_ogCLcBGAsYHQ/s1125/Diver_K_A.jpg

In Uitweg (Dignified Dying) by Boudewijn Chabot helium is actually one of the preferred methods. Although he warns about an American supplier (Worthington Inc) adding air to it, so it becomes useless for a way to ctb. In the Netherlands, this is not the case, so helium is advised. For US citizens he advises nitrogen.

 

[thewalkingdread]

Here is someone who witnessed a death by this method. The man in this video has seen five executions and he said this is the most violent one.

You "forgot" to say that this man is a anti-death-penalty advocate... i.e. a pro-lifer willing to smear any humane methods just because he wants to stop executions at any costs whatsoever.

His version of what he witnessed is completely biased and unreliable — and should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

If Kenneth Smith was executed by being fucked to death by 10 beautiful women, or in the most pleasureable way imaginable, this dude would still claim it was the most horrendous execution he had ever seen.

 

[UKscotty]

Media BS. That animal was fighting it and he didn't want to die, of course it won't be peaceful.

Inert gas is probably the most peaceful method except something like a gun or heroin.

 

[Andrew10]

Luckily I survived a failed attempt and I can deny the "pain", in my experience it was completely peaceful I don't know how to describe it very well but it was instantaneous I felt the emptiness, as if I were a tv and they turned me off. But I ran the risk of ending up being a vegetable, currently my vision is damaged and my head hurts a little but it is a miracle that only that has happened to me. I have absolutely no idea what happened with that guy but I don't care and I don't care about the opinions and warnings of other users either. I already have the experience and that's necessary proof for me. I just need to build up enough courage for CTB and I'm done.

I saw this debate days ago but I just didn't comment because I always have someone asking about my method and they want me to show them how to do it, I just don't do reply them because unlike Vizzy or GasMonkey I am someone who has little knowledge in this and I am afraid of condemn a poor life to end up trapped in a vegetable body because of me

So anyone who reads this wants to ask me, I'm not going to answer it, I recommend that you look carefully at Vizzy's or GasMonkey's thread because they have better knowledge on this, I've had enough just for now to have the risk of condemning people to making their lives worse by turning them into vegetables.


Peace

 

[death2022]

Luckily I survived a failed attempt and I can deny the "pain", in my experience it was completely peaceful I don't know how to describe it very well but it was instantaneous I felt the emptiness, as if I were a tv and they turned me off. But I ran the risk of ending up being a vegetable, currently my vision is damaged and my head hurts a little but it is a miracle that only that has happened to me. I have absolutely no idea what happened with that guy but I don't care and I don't care about the opinions and warnings of other users either. I already have the experience and that's necessary proof for me. I just need to build up enough courage for CTB and I'm done.

I saw this debate days ago but I just didn't comment because I always have someone asking about my method and they want me to show them how to do it, I just don't do reply them because unlike Vizzy or GasMonkey I am someone who has little knowledge in this and I am afraid of condemn a poor life to end up trapped in a vegetable body because of me

So anyone who reads this wants to ask me, I'm not going to answer it, I recommend that you look carefully at Vizzy's or GasMonkey's thread because they have better knowledge on this, I've had enough just for now to have the risk of condemning people to making their lives worse by turning them into vegetables.


Peace

May I ask how your attempt failed? And you say your vision is damaged, can you describe what the damaged vision is like? Many thanks.

 

[TheSpookyNameGuy]

Fake news

 

[Andrew10]

May I ask how your attempt failed? And you say your vision is damaged, can you describe what the damaged vision is like? Many thanks.

Sure I sabotaged the method myself and left the air gaps in the bag accompanied by using another bag to fill it with a little nitrogen also to inhale it, My plan was to hold my breath, use the tank and the bag at the same time and inhale it at once, it sounds kind of stupid but I thought that if I left some nitrogen inside the bag with holes while I inhaled another bag with a little more nitrogen I would have better effect. I thought that with that it would be a trial run and if I survive nothing would happen to me. Apart from that, I ignored several things from the Vizzy and Gas monkey thread, I used cheaper resources, all of this is because of an unknown feeling that makes me sabotage or question everything in the last seconds and keeps me alive.

It was a serious mistake, I was in bed for about 2 days with an unbearable headache, it was something I had never experienced in my life, I was left without strength and unable to move.

My vision completely worsened, I see things very out of focus, my vision is also somewhat dark and it is difficult for me to read or understand anything with my eyesight. My eyes sometimes seem to be sunburned and start to sting for no reason I need to use eye drops. I started wearing glasses or something like that but it just doesn't work, now I'm kind of used to it and it seems to reduce a little, but to be honest. I consider it a miracle that this is what happened to me and I just think I was lucky.

If you are wondering why: I was willing to do the method correctly but I don't know what is happening to me, there is some feeling that I don't know about myself that always causes me to stop myself and this time it caused me to sabotage the entire process, this almost costs me to get stuck in this body for my entire life as a vegetable.
I'm not sure if this has a specific name but for me I simply consider it a final boss that I must defeat to achieve my final goal of catching my bus

 

[thehorizons]

Sure I sabotaged the method myself and left the air gaps in the bag accompanied by using another bag to fill it with a little nitrogen also to inhale it, My plan was to hold my breath, use the tank and the bag at the same time and inhale it at once, it sounds kind of stupid but I thought that if I left some nitrogen inside the bag with holes while I inhaled another bag with a little more nitrogen I would have better effect. I thought that with that it would be a trial run and if I survive nothing would happen to me. Apart from that, I ignored several things from the Vizzy and Gas monkey thread, I used cheaper resources, all of this is because of an unknown feeling that makes me sabotage or question everything in the last seconds and keeps me alive.

It was a serious mistake, I was in bed for about 2 days with an unbearable headache, it was something I had never experienced in my life, I was left without strength and unable to move.

My vision completely worsened, I see things very out of focus, my vision is also somewhat dark and it is difficult for me to read or understand anything with my eyesight. My eyes sometimes seem to be sunburned and start to sting for no reason I need to use eye drops. I started wearing glasses or something like that but it just doesn't work, now I'm kind of used to it and it seems to reduce a little, but to be honest. I consider it a miracle that this is what happened to me and I just think I was lucky.

If you are wondering why: I was willing to do the method correctly but I don't know what is happening to me, there is some feeling that I don't know about myself that always causes me to stop myself and this time it caused me to sabotage the entire process, this almost costs me to get stuck in this body for my entire life as a vegetable.
I'm not sure if this has a specific name but for me I simply consider it a final boss that I must defeat to achieve my final goal of catching my bus

I'm kind of confused here, what do you mean you used cheaper resources? The main way is crafting an exit bag that's the clear turkey bag. What do you mean too by "an unknown feeling that makes me sabotage or question everything in the last seconds and keeps me alive?" What did you do exactly that botched the attempt. Was it because you used two bags or the bag wasn't tight enough? Kind of stumped cause you seemed to follow all the steps, yet you didn't?

 

[Andrew10]

I'm kind of confused here, what do you mean you used cheaper resources? The main way is crafting an exit bag that's the clear turkey bag. What do you mean too by "an unknown feeling that makes me sabotage or question everything in the last seconds and keeps me alive?" What did you do exactly that botched the attempt. Was it because you used two bags or the bag wasn't tight enough? Kind of stumped cause you seemed to follow all the steps, yet you didn't?

Hey there, it's been a while since I posted this, sorry for not replying sooner, I'm not in a good mood, in fact my mood is declining more and more to the point that turning on the computer is a difficult task for me. The reason it failed was due to simple self-sabotage. At the last second, I closed the valve and punctured the bag out of desperation, causing a disaster for my body. I didn't fully explain myself about using cheap resources; it's because I used easier and simpler alternatives instead of high-quality resources, like plastic bags instead of a mask (I opted for the gasmonkey thread). I didn't have a very professional setup with this method due to my desperation for CTB and how limited I was back then. Even so, I did some research, and after surviving my CTB attempt and probably being one step away from becoming a vegetable, I studied this method much more thoroughly, and it very likely would have worked if it weren't for my self-sabotage.

Regarding that fear I describe, I think it's closer to SI. I want CTB, but something unknown was blocking me and made me change course at the last second. That's why I describe it as unknown fear, and now it's more present knowing the consequences of being able to survive. That's the same reason why I'm still here and still in a neutral state. I summarize this in one sentence: "I am a division between a mind that wants to die and a body that wants to live."

 

[thehorizons]

Hey there, it's been a while since I posted this, sorry for not replying sooner, I'm not in a good mood, in fact my mood is declining more and more to the point that turning on the computer is a difficult task for me. The reason it failed was due to simple self-sabotage. At the last second, I closed the valve and punctured the bag out of desperation, causing a disaster for my body. I didn't fully explain myself about using cheap resources; it's because I used easier and simpler alternatives instead of high-quality resources, like plastic bags instead of a mask (I opted for the gasmonkey thread). I didn't have a very professional setup with this method due to my desperation for CTB and how limited I was back then. Even so, I did some research, and after surviving my CTB attempt and probably being one step away from becoming a vegetable, I studied this method much more thoroughly, and it very likely would have worked if it weren't for my self-sabotage.

Regarding that fear I describe, I think it's closer to SI. I want CTB, but something unknown was blocking me and made me change course at the last second. That's why I describe it as unknown fear, and now it's more present knowing the consequences of being able to survive. That's the same reason why I'm still here and still in a neutral state. I summarize this in one sentence: "I am a division between a mind that wants to die and a body that wants to live."

Thanks for the input. I understand. I'm slowly deteriorating as well. My health has been the source of the deterioration of my mental health. I have post-acute withdrawal syndrome that prevents me from having normal sleep and naps. Moreover, I recently discovered that I have oral cancer. I don't think it's an advanced stage yet, but my greatest fear is that when it advances I won't be able to treat it with surgery, as my neurological disorder would cause me to have a paradoxical reaction with anesthesia or typical medication. My SI is pretty low at this point, but I might still not CTB yet. I'm still straddling between accepting my fate that I have to suffer from the cancer (I'll probably be eligible for MAID or VAD at that point if I suffer that much) or if I can CTB peacefully before the cancer gets me. Resources are my limitation at the moment and I need a medical test to confirm my illness, but to be honest I think if we really wanted to CTB we could just find a way except that it won't be peaceful at all. Thank you for your information though and if you can see hope still I hope you can have some peace in the meantime. For me, I feel the Devil has won or, maybe, I did something in my past life and all the bad karma (or a vengeful spirit) is after me. Statisically, I know I'm not the only one though.

 

[Suizident]

Hopefully people here have chosen not to proceed with the nitrogen method based on the reports of the disastrous and horrific execution of a prisoner in the U.S.

Just because it was suggested as peaceful by the Peaceful Pill Handbook does not mean that it is the last word on this subject. Here is someone who witnessed a death by this method. The man in this video has seen five executions and he said this is the most violent one.

Well, dying isn't for wimps! :)

 

[Andrew10]

Thanks for the input. I understand. I'm slowly deteriorating as well. My health has been the source of the deterioration of my mental health. I have post-acute withdrawal syndrome that prevents me from having normal sleep and naps. Moreover, I recently discovered that I have oral cancer. I don't think it's an advanced stage yet, but my greatest fear is that when it advances I won't be able to treat it with surgery, as my neurological disorder would cause me to have a paradoxical reaction with anesthesia or typical medication. My SI is pretty low at this point, but I might still not CTB yet. I'm still straddling between accepting my fate that I have to suffer from the cancer (I'll probably be eligible for MAID or VAD at that point if I suffer that much) or if I can CTB peacefully before the cancer gets me. Resources are my limitation at the moment and I need a medical test to confirm my illness, but to be honest I think if we really wanted to CTB we could just find a way except that it won't be peaceful at all. Thank you for your information though and if you can see hope still I hope you can have some peace in the meantime. For me, I feel the Devil has won or, maybe, I did something in my past life and all the bad karma (or a vengeful spirit) is after me. Statisically, I know I'm not the only one though.

I thought I had replied here, but I realized I closed the tab without sending the message. I'm sorry about that, it was very late and I was so sleepy I didn't even want to check. It also makes me sad to read about your situation. I can't say much because I've never been through it and there's nothing I can do.

In my case, my failed CTB attempt permanently damaged my eyesight, but it's something I can get used to and it's not as worrying as your situation. I wish you luck with your test results. Even though this isn't much, please allow me to send you a big hug from afar and all my support to help you get through at least the day. Whatever happens, I wish you all the best and send you lots of encouragement with all my strength, whatever decision you make. I hope and wish you a good day, my friend. Take care, and thank you for opening up like this, I really appreciate it

 

[thehorizons]

I thought I had replied here, but I realized I closed the tab without sending the message. I'm sorry about that, it was very late and I was so sleepy I didn't even want to check. It also makes me sad to read about your situation. I can't say much because I've never been through it and there's nothing I can do.

In my case, my failed CTB attempt permanently damaged my eyesight, but it's something I can get used to and it's not as worrying as your situation. I wish you luck with your test results. Even though this isn't much, please allow me to send you a big hug from afar and all my support to help you get through at least the day. Whatever happens, I wish you all the best and send you lots of encouragement with all my strength, whatever decision you make. I hope and wish you a good day, my friend. Take care, and thank you for opening up like this, I really appreciate it

Thanks. I pretty much know the results before they'll come out since my symptoms are obvious. I feel this is kind of fated. No matter what we do, since we were born, there's this path architected for us. Seems crazy to think about it (I wouldn't have even believed in fate that much before the whole experience), but I think some of us on here could attest that there was nothing they could do that led them here. I don't know if I'll get the Nitrogen method to work, but whatever I'll do it would've been fated. If there's still some good in this world or such a thing as karma, I hope we can all find some form of peace.