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Nex Benedict, a 16-year-old nonbinary student in Oklahoma who died a day after a physical altercation in a high school girls' bathroom, died as a result of suicide, according to an autopsy report released on Wednesday.

A medical examiner's report said that the teenager had been found with a "combined toxicity" of diphenhydramine, an antihistimine commonly used for allergies, and fluoxetine, a drug often used to treat depression.

So you can die from mixing drugs this is not the first suicide and I heard it's peaceful too.. I'm considering this plan
 
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Tbh. As much as I think those girls really bullied Nex to suicide, I don't understand how you can die from this combination of pills.
 
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Tbh. As much as I think those girls really bullied Nex to suicide, I don't understand how you can die from this combination of pills.
Because you can! It doesn't have to be SN or N it's well known that overdose or mixing medications can kill he prob took them at night and went to sleep and never wakup
 
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Because you can! It doesn't have to be SN or N it's well known that overdose or mixing medications can kill he prob took them at night and went to sleep and never wakup
Well you can technically od on a lot of pills but there is a reason there is something like 6% chance of actually dying. Nex might have been in that 6% who knows but the reason these drugs aren't talked about often is because it's actually very low chance of oding on them, you are more likely to end up in er with seizures and hallucinations along with organ or brain damage
 
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Nah thats a bad combo
 
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Poor kid, I hope they are at peace now.
 
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Well you can technically od on a lot of pills but there is a reason there is something like 6% chance of actually dying. Nex might have been in that 6% who knows but the reason these drugs aren't talked about often is because it's actually very low chance of oding on them, you are more likely to end up in er with seizures and hallucinations along with organ or brain damage
I don't know I don't believe on their statistics it's not counting everyone I think unless you're a Superman you can actually die if you take a big amount of any medications…
Nah thats a bad combo
He died right?
Poor kid, I hope they are at peace now.
I hope so too he was pushed to the edge ugly stupid people
 
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Maybe Nex died from their combination of drugs. It's obvious that one can "luck out" and happen to die from a drug overdose. But, go look at the statistics. Even the PPH reports that OD isn't a reliable method. Why would their statistics be tainted? Nex seemingly got lucky. But, just haphazardly popping whatever you can lay your hands on, or happens to be around the house, is a huge gamble and can, and will, backfire, more often than it succeeds.
 
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I envy them as now they are at peace, permanently free from all suffering. Only those who die are fortunate to me.
 
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I envy them as now they are at peace, permanently free from all suffering. Only those who die are fortunate to me.
I agree! They are lucky and fortunate.
 
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There have been a few recent posts from people who survived Benadryl/diphenhydramine. Tl;dr it's unpleasant and not reliable.


 
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Another failed by society and the health system.

At least she's at peace now I guess. Luckily child suicide is quite rare.

Bullying must be much worse than when we were kids. There was no Internet when I was in school.
 
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Another failed by society and the health system.

At least she's at peace now I guess. Luckily child suicide is quite rare.

Bullying must be much worse than when we were kids. There was no Internet when I was in school.
He/they. Nex was out as transmasc to close people, and enby to the rest. Nex is dead because of gender identity. Please respect it.
 
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He/they. Nex was out as transmasc to close people, and enby to the rest. Nex is dead because of gender identity. Please respect it.
I haven't kept up with the story that well but didn't Nex start the fight in the bathroom by pouring water on the girls first? I may be wrong but this is the latest I heard. I haven't kept up with it much
 
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There have been a few recent posts from people who survived Benadryl/diphenhydramine. Tl;dr it's unpleasant and not reliable.


You're right and even the medical examiner did this case was saying it's impossible he died from thi
Another failed by society and the health system.

At least she's at peace now I guess. Luckily child suicide is quite rare.

Bullying must be much worse than when we were kids. There was no Internet when I was in school.
its worse! Kids are dying daily in schools from bullying in America and they just talk nothing is done about it
I haven't kept up with the story that well but didn't Nex start the fight in the bathroom by pouring water on the girls first? I may be wrong but this is the latest I heard. I haven't kept up with it much
Because she had enough it's like a cat in the cage once you open the gage it will attack you.. she was bullied constantly
 
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This bullying is one of the only forms of "assisting suicide" that I can get behind making illegal.
 
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^ The kid used "he" and "they," but not "she." At least let him be gendered right in death.

I'd also recommend against the Benedryl & fluoxetine combo. I suppose it's possible that Nex had some particular vulnerability to those drugs, but most people will just end up getting their stomach pumped in the ER before being transferred for 10 days in the psyche ward.
 
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It depends on what pills you combine. it's not that easy and some are hard to get.
 
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It's sad that they got bullied and physically assualted so severely that it's led them to this point. That school, along wider society as a whole, completely failed them. The worse part is that the same transphobic dumbasses who have pushed trans people, especially trans children, to the point of taking their own lives will probably continue on with their transphobic rhetoric, even after hearing about Nex's death. The same assholes who spend their time talking about preventing suicides and who whine about how sad ctbing is are nearly always the same dumbfucks who'll cause other people to ctb and then turn a blind eye to it. I at least hope that they were able to pass away peacefully.
 
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^ The kid used "he" and "they," but not "she." At least let him be gendered right in death.

I'd also recommend against the Benedryl & fluoxetine combo. I suppose it's possible that Nex had some particular vulnerability to those drugs, but most people will just end up getting their stomach pumped in the ER before being transferred for 10 days in the psyche ward.
It is on pretty much every thread about him, and at this point we think certain people are doing it intentionally.
As a trans-woman, it is infuriating. People are more fucking worried about whether the drug combo is reliable then showing literally the minimum amount of respect for someone that is now dead, not because they wanted to be, but because they were abused and assaulted because of their gender identity. No better than the worthless cop that misgendered him in the ER leading up to it, and the coroner that is covering up the impact of TBI in his death to avoid some awful girls from getting the murder charges they deserve.
 
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Im not sure we have made very much progress. In public people are great, but hang with people in social settings and racism, sexism and homophobia are as bad as I can ever remember. I find inside the gay community transphobia is even worse. People pretend to be allies, but we are decades away from any equality.

That's not to undermine the terrible experience people suffered in the past, I'm just saying we are not as far away from lynching as people assume.
 
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Nex did not die by suicide. This narrative is being pushed to mitigate the fact that Nex was Trans and was beaten to death because of transphobia. Don't let the lies win
 
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Nex did not die by suicide. This narrative is being pushed to mitigate the fact that Nex was Trans and was beaten to death because of transphobia. Don't let the lies win
There was literally a medical examination and autopsy report that ruled it to be suicide with Benadryl and Prozac. They weren't beaten to death, if you look at the video from the hospital they didn't look like they were dying. Yes they were probably bullied but according to Nex themself, they started the fight in the bathroom by pouring water on the girls
but because they were abused and assaulted because of their gender identity.
Afaik it hasn't been ruled a hate crime. I might have missed some of the reporting or testimonies but how do we know the girls Nex got into a fight with knew they were non binary or targeted them because of that? Afaik Nex poured water on them first which started the fight but I maybe missing something
 
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Afaik it hasn't been ruled a hate crime. I might have missed some of the reporting or testimonies but how do we know the girls Nex got into a fight with knew they were non binary or targeted them because of that? Afaik Nex poured water on them first which started the fight but I maybe missing something
You're missing something. Nex had been targeted with harassment and bullying at school continuously because he was trans, he lived in a state that's recently passed anti-trans laws that specifically take away protections for trans people, and he went to a school that was unsupportive and hostile to trans people.

He was forced to use the female bathroom because of those anti-trans laws and policies, and when three girls who had been harassing and taunting him followed him in there, he threw some water on them in an attempt to get them to leave him alone. In response, they ganged up on him three-on-one and beat him severely, so badly that bruises formed around his eyes, they were banging his head against the floor, and he couldn't walk to the nurse's station on his own.

There hasn't been any time for it to be ruled a hate crime. An investigation into the school has been opened, that will take time to complete. The law enforcement in that community have a very strong motivation to shove this under the rug and not let it be seen as reflecting bad on their community, and to not let brutal results of that type of anti-trans hostility be seen by the wider public. It will take outside agencies investigating, who are impartial and unbiased, to get anywhere near the truth on this.

I'm using he/him pronouns because that's what Nex's friends have stated they used for him; he also used they/them.
 
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You're missing something. Nex had been targeted with harassment and bullying at school continuously because he was trans, he lived in a state that's recently passed anti-trans laws that specifically take away protections for trans people, and he went to a school that was unsupportive and hostile to trans people.
He could have been targeted before thats true, but to link him being harassed before to what happened in the bathroom is whats missing in the evidence. Do we know same people who harassed them before are the same girls who did it in the bathroom? and where is the evidence showing it was due to gender identity?
He was forced to use the female bathroom because of those anti-trans laws and policies, and when three girls who had been harassing and taunting him followed him in there, he threw some water on them in an attempt to get them to leave him alone. In response, they ganged up on him three-on-one and beat him severely, so badly that bruises formed around his eyes, they were banging his head against the floor, and he couldn't walk to the nurse's station on his own.
In the video from the hospital the day of the altercation, Nex explains to an officer that the girls had been picking on them and their friends because of the way they dressed. Nex claims that in the bathroom the girls said "something like: why do they laugh like that," referring to Nex and their friends.

"And so I went up there and I poured water on them, and then all three of them came at me," Nex tells the officer while reclining in a hospital bed.
laughing at someone because of the way they dressed has nothing to do with Nex's identity. Nex admits to pouring water on them because they were laughing. I am not sure that this response can held up to cops since this is the definition of assault. The girls weren't in the right, its not a proportional response to someone pouring water on you but if Nex didnt instigate there would be much more culpability for those girls.

Video released by police from the high school on Feb. 7 shows students walking into and then out of a bathroom after stacking chairs on top of tables in a cafeteria. Six students are seen entering the bathroom before Nex, who stops at a water fountain and then enters the bathroom along with two other students. A faculty member is then seen going into the bathroom, and the students walk out.

There hasn't been any time for it to be ruled a hate crime. An investigation into the school has been opened, that will take time to complete. The law enforcement in that community have a very strong motivation to shove this under the rug and not let it be seen as reflecting bad on their community, and to not let brutal results of that type of anti-trans hostility be seen by the wider public. It will take outside agencies investigating, who are impartial and unbiased, to get anywhere near the truth on this.
again, according to what Nex said themselves, this doesnt look like they were targeted because of their gender identity and there is nothing in the evidence so far that shows that. How do we know the girls targeted them because of gender identity? Even Nex never admitted to them only laughing at the way Nex dressed. And how do we know these are the same girls who have made fun of him before?
 
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He could have been targeted before thats true, but to link him being harassed before to what happened in the bathroom is whats missing in the evidence. and where is the evidence showing it was due to gender identity?

laughing at someone because of the way they dressed has nothing to do with Nex's identity.

again, according to what Nex said themselves, this doesnt look like they were targeted because of their gender identity and there is nothing in the evidence so far that shows that. How do we know the girls targeted them because of gender identity?

This has all been widely reported in news articles. In one of your early comments you said you haven't even kept up with the story, and you weren't sure whether Nex threw the water first, suggesting you don't know the basic details of this story. You're trying to argue that the bullying was separate from his gender identity without knowing anything but the quickest overview of the story; why?

Any time you have questions about a story you hear of in the media, it's a good idea to spend at least as long learning about that story as it takes you to type out those questions. Because the answers are often easily found.

Family and friends established that he'd been continually bullied and harassed because of his gender identity. Current and former students, parents of students, and staff have spoken on the hostile environment towards trans people in that school.

And in regards to his interaction with the police officer, who was a school resource officer: Worth reading.
 
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This has all been widely reported in news articles. In one of your early comments you said you haven't even kept up with story, and you weren't sure whether Nex threw the water first, suggesting you don't know the basic details of this story. You're trying to argue that the bullying was separate from his gender identity without knowing anything but the quickest overview of the story; why?
It is from what I read afterwards. As it turned out nex did throw the water first so they escalated the fight.
Any time you have questions about a story you hear of in the media, it's a good idea to spend at least as long learning about that story as it takes you to type out those questions. Because the answers are often easily found.
Family and friends established that he'd been continually bullied and harassed because of his gender identity. Current and former students, parents of students, and staff have spoken on the hostile environment towards trans people in that school.
Nothing about the girls targeting them specifically because of that. As far as I know Nex knew the girls who targeted them for less than a week. That's not coming along with a gender idenitity bullying narrative at all. Nex admitted himself that they made fun of the way they dressed. Why aren't you commenting on that? How is that gender idenitity bullying ?
The anti trans narrative at the school has nothing to do with the facts of the matter. The more plausible story is they were bullied for how they dressed which is typical for teenagers that age.
And in regards to his interaction with the police officer, who was a school resource officer: Worth reading.
This is an opinion piece I'm not reading it.
 
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It is from what I read afterwards. As it turned out nex did throw the water first so they escalated the fight.
Nothing about the girls targeting them specifically because of that. As far as I know Nex knew the girls who targeted them for less than a week. That's not coming along with a gender idenitity bullying narrative at all. Nex admitted himself that they made fun of the way they dressed. Why aren't you commenting on that? How is that gender idenitity bullying ?
The anti trans narrative at the school has nothing to do with the facts of the matter. The more plausible story is they were bullied for how they dressed which is typical for teenagers that age.

This is an opinion piece I'm not reading it.
You replied literally moments after I posted. There's no way you read even one of the three articles I posted. The goal of all three articles was to inform, and if you were genuinely interested in being informed, the third article would contribute to that. However, it's clear that you don't intend to read anything I post, so there's no point in continuing this conversation. Have a nice day.