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aminend

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May 24, 2020
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On the 19th July 2020 Linda Gillchrest was found by a neighbour in bed at
her home address in Guildford, Surrey, there were no signs of life. She
had not been seen for two days. The emergency services were called and
death was recognised at 23:31 hours that same day. A quantity of Sodium
Nitrite, which Mrs Gillchrest had bought on-line, was found in the bin
situated in the kitchen at her home address. Toxicological tests found
high levels of Sodium Nitrite in her blood, which could not be explained
by diet. Further, Mrs Gillchrest had bought an ebook which gave detailed
and clear instructions as to how to self-administer a fatal dose of Sodium
Nitrite.

During the course of the inquest, evidence was heard that in May 2019
Mrs Gillchrest bought an e-book online from the USA, titled The Peaceful
Pill eHandbook, from a website of the same name. The book gave very
clear and precise instructions as to how to self-administer a fatal dose of
Sodium Nitrite, including the amount required and a timeline to death.
In that same month, for less than £5:00, pounds, Mrs Gillchrest
purchased, on the auction site 'www.ebay.co.uk', a quantity of Sodium
Nitrite that was in excess of that recommended in The Peaceful Pill
eHandbook as being required for a fatal dose.
Both purchases were made without any restriction being imposed by the
sellers.
The MATTERS OF CONCERN are that:
• A publication such as The Peaceful Pill eHandbook, that contains
detailed instructions as to how to end a human life, is available to
be purchased online without restriction.
• Sodium Nitrite is available to be purchased in lethal quantities
from a UK website for less than £5:00, again without restriction.
• No protection is afforded to vulnerable people prior to them
making such purchases.
Consideration should be given to whether any steps can be taken to
address the above concerns.


 

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SuicidallyCurious

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UK nanny state is cracking down. Brits should stockpile while they can
 
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Yes, things are going to get tougher in the UK soon probably.
 
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RitaM

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Aug 26, 2018
146
It angers me how keen society is to condemn any means of taking one's own life, yet is unable or unwilling to translate such enthusiasm into addressing the societal issues responsible for creating a suicidal environment in the first place.
 
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HopelessBorderline

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Oct 29, 2020
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Going off another post about firearms in the USA,
I question why here in the UK they are trying to make SN unavailable to purchase without a licence, whereas over in the USA you can pick up a firearm from basically...anywhere, with no means of stopping people from committing suicide by blowing their brains out.

The world confuses me.

If people are going to kill themselves, trying to take methods away from them is not going to stop them. When there is a will, there is a way!

SN is a much more peaceful method but hey-ho. They want us to go in a more barbaric, horiffic, painful way it would seem.
 
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DoNotLet2

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Oct 14, 2019
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Let me complain a bit. It's not fair. This book is too expensive. So what? If I'm poor I don't deserve to end my life?! I'm Polish and Polish currency is very weak compared to dollar (one third or one fourth) which makes this book very expensive. That's what I find unfair!

But yeah taking the way away won't stop people. The only thing that would stop them is solving their problems but the government is too lazy to change the society for the better... THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US WHEN WE SUFFER BUT THEY WANT TO STOP US!!!
 
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EmbraceOfTheVoid

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Mar 29, 2020
689
Whoever wrote this is a fucking nutjob and has the audacity to use a phrase like "vulnerable" people. People who kill themselves know exactly what they're doing you pro-life delusional shitstain. People don't need your "protection", they need protection from scum like yourselves who deprive people freedom of choice.
 
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DoNotLet2

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Oct 14, 2019
684
@EmbraceOfTheVoid
Yesss I hate that too. In Polish schools counselors say "he's a bad guy 'cause he bullies weaker". So what? If he bullied stronger would that be okay?
I mean everyone on this site is an adult and adults are responsible for themselves right? That's how it works?
 
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Boohoo people can't make actions by themselves:((( government is gonna be angy
 
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Endeavour

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Dec 13, 2020
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I think I'd rather try CO in a tent than SN, but since I have SN and it's pretty much guaranteed I think I'll use it as my method. I'm glad I bought it when I did, they've really clamped down in the UK.

Plus it's a bit cold for camping and with the lockdowns...
 
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pen

it's A non Getting Down socializing situation
Dec 25, 2020
122
Going off another post about firearms in the USA,
I question why here in the UK they are trying to make SN unavailable to purchase without a licence, whereas over in the USA you can pick up a firearm from basically...anywhere, with no means of stopping people from committing suicide by blowing their brains out.

The world confuses me.

If people are going to kill themselves, trying to take methods away from them is not going to stop them. When there is a will, there is a way!

SN is a much more peaceful method but hey-ho. They want us to go in a more barbaric, horiffic, painful way it would seem.
Yeah, they're expecting a spectacle, not a escape.

Freedom isn't, it's a prison, that's I'm sure.
 
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SuicidallyCurious

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Dec 20, 2020
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I think I'd rather try CO in a tent than SN, but since I have SN and it's pretty much guaranteed I think I'll use it as my method. I'm glad I bought it when I did, they've really clamped down in the UK.

Plus it's a bit cold for camping and with the lockdowns...

I wonder if UK will ever try to ban CO method for example no more charcoal ? Maybe they will claim global warming as the excuse
 
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Aug 26, 2018
146
I think the CO method can be quite unreliable. I remember somebody here who was very thorough about it but but survived. I think somebody found him but not for a long time. It put me off completely.
 
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Deleted member 1768

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Aug 15, 2018
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On the 19th July 2020 Linda Gillchrest was found by a neighbour in bed at
her home address in Guildford, Surrey, there were no signs of life. She
had not been seen for two days. The emergency services were called and
death was recognised at 23:31 hours that same day. A quantity of Sodium
Nitrite, which Mrs Gillchrest had bought on-line, was found in the bin
situated in the kitchen at her home address. Toxicological tests found
high levels of Sodium Nitrite in her blood, which could not be explained
by diet. Further, Mrs Gillchrest had bought an ebook which gave detailed
and clear instructions as to how to self-administer a fatal dose of Sodium
Nitrite.

During the course of the inquest, evidence was heard that in May 2019
Mrs Gillchrest bought an e-book online from the USA, titled The Peaceful
Pill eHandbook, from a website of the same name. The book gave very
clear and precise instructions as to how to self-administer a fatal dose of
Sodium Nitrite, including the amount required and a timeline to death.
In that same month, for less than £5:00, pounds, Mrs Gillchrest
purchased, on the auction site 'www.ebay.co.uk', a quantity of Sodium
Nitrite that was in excess of that recommended in The Peaceful Pill
eHandbook as being required for a fatal dose.
Both purchases were made without any restriction being imposed by the
sellers.
The MATTERS OF CONCERN are that:
• A publication such as The Peaceful Pill eHandbook, that contains
detailed instructions as to how to end a human life, is available to
be purchased online without restriction.
• Sodium Nitrite is available to be purchased in lethal quantities
from a UK website for less than £5:00, again without restriction.
• No protection is afforded to vulnerable people prior to them
making such purchases.
Consideration should be given to whether any steps can be taken to
address the above concerns.


Thank you for letting us know about this. I highly recommend getting the book right now if you can. Once it becomes illegal to publish...there will be nothing more than this site and a whole lot of guesswork.
 
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Oct 14, 2019
684
Thank you for letting us know about this. I highly recommend getting the book right now if you can. Once it becomes illegal to publish...there will be nothing more than this site and a whole lot of guesswork.
Good advice such a pity only the rich can use this. :( I'm not trying to be mean I'm just sad.
 
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Endeavour

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Dec 13, 2020
566
If i kill myself it won't make a difference to them or anyone else but me. it shouldn't be anyone else's business if i just another primate like me wants to kill itself. In fact it would help everyone i think one less mouth to feed with dwindling world resources in an exploding world population nearing 8 billion .

i can contribute nothing to anyone anyway as i am disabled . these bastards are sick the ones wanting to restrict SN i mean there's no logical reason for them wanting me to continue to suffer alive but i know the reason but would rather not say why
Tick Tock Tick Tock - time is running out for all of us - in 1800 there were abuot 900 million of us, in 1918 there were 1.5 billion of us, now there are nearly 8 billion.

In the last 100 years our population has doubled every 47 years. It's supposedly slowed down to "only" 1.08% per year - at that rate - there'll be 16 billion of us in about 63 years.

It's too many, so there will be a turning of the tide whether we do it or nature does.

People don't understand exponential growth - in the tens of thousands of years of human development it took us all that time to get to 1.5 billion in 1918 - 100 years later we've more than increased our number by 500% - another 500% increase and it's curtains for earth.

1961 3 billion people ate 20 kg of meat per year, about 6.5 billion chickens in there. That's about 1.5 billion metric tonnes of dry animal feed per year.

2014 7.5 billion of us ate 43kg of meat per year, about 68.5 billion chickens in there. That's over 8 billion metric tonnes of dry animal feed per year.

At 10 billion people we need to find 25% more land to grow animal feed, and crops, and petroleum, and energy, and water (cattle need water too - and lots of it), and etc.

At 12 billion we need 50% more than we use now.

How long til 10 billion - about 20 years (simple, indisputable maths).

How long til 12 Billion - about 35 years (simple indisputable maths).

People around the world aren't going to suddenly stop having babies because all 8 billion of them suddenly realise what a mess we're in - most of them have no idea - as long as there's food on the shelves at the supermarket they're happy. Until it suddenly stops.

Then the shit will really hit the fan, and if petroleum / oil runs out or gets less available then it'll happen faster because we need it to plant crops, harvest crops, process crops, ship crops, and make fertilisier and pesticides.

When that stops - we stop.
 
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Feb 19, 2020
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Jeez, that handbook thing costs nearly 100 dollars! That's ridiculous when you can find instructions for free on here
 
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Jeez, that handbook thing costs nearly 100 dollars! That's ridiculous when you can find instructions for free on here
t2 please make sure you do your own research before making any decisions. That is imperative.
 
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CatabolicSeed

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Feb 19, 2020
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t2 please make sure you do your own research before making any decisions. That is imperative.
Is the information on here and the suicide wiki unreliable?
 
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Is the information on here and the suicide wiki unreliable?
I have not read the suicide wiki, but none of us are doctors, and everyone reacts to medication, etc. differently. There are errors made on site though, some pretty glaring. It is highly recommended that you do your own research always.
 
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May 9, 2020
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For just 5 minutes I'd like to see people in this country stop talking about suicide as if it's some secret black snake preying on weak people and start talking about the obvious gaping flaws in our health service and other public systems that lead people to want to die so often.

That aside I hope this person found peace whoever they were. This one is somewhat close to me, adds a bit of reality to these situations.
 
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For just 5 minutes I'd like to see people in this country stop talking about suicide as if it's some secret black snake preying on weak people and start talking about the obvious gaping flaws in our health service and other public systems that lead people to want to die so often.

That aside I hope this person found peace whoever they were. This one is somewhat close to me, adds a bit of reality to these situations.
Agreed Cat. I have recently started calling suicide self-euthanasia and that term has not triggered anyone like the word 'suicide' would. Have had a couple of good conversations since then.
 
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Jul 31, 2020
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Jeez, that handbook thing costs nearly 100 dollars! That's ridiculous when you can find instructions for free on here
Let me complain a bit. It's not fair. This book is too expensive. So what? If I'm poor I don't deserve to end my life?! I'm Polish and Polish currency is very weak compared to dollar (one third or one fourth) which makes this book very expensive. That's what I find unfair!

But yeah taking the way away won't stop people. The only thing that would stop them is solving their problems but the government is too lazy to change the society for the better... THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US WHEN WE SUFFER BUT THEY WANT TO STOP US!!!

Find free pdf versions online. Updated usually frequent enough. No point in wasting currency.
 
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Wisdom3_1-9

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Jul 19, 2020
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Interesting that the report contains no information whatsoever as to her reasons for suicide. It doesn't explore if she was suffering physically or mentally, for how long, or what prior help, if any, was sought to deal with those issues.

The message is clear. Those things are irrelevant to the author. All that matters to the author is that the individual sought to end her life and was able to. That is such a cold, heartless approach. The true cause of death shouldn't be SN, but whatever drove Linda to this point.

I hope she found the peace she sought.
 
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Interesting that the report contains no information whatsoever as to her reasons for suicide. It doesn't explore if she was suffering physically or mentally, for how long, or what prior help, if any, was sought to deal with those issues.

The message is clear. Those things are irrelevant to the author. All that matters to the author is that the individual sought to end her life and was able to. That is such a cold, heartless approach. The true cause of death shouldn't be SN, but whatever drove Linda to this point.

I hope she found the peace she sought.
Report also makes no mention that UK is under occupation by a financial tyranny, having looted the taxpayers there to bail out a parasitic banking sector and destroying working and middle class standards of living. Could that have contributed to the CTB? The government report makes no mention of this
 
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Sep 28, 2020
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Tick Tock Tick Tock - time is running out for all of us - in 1800 there were abuot 900 million of us, in 1918 there were 1.5 billion of us, now there are nearly 8 billion.

In the last 100 years our population has doubled every 47 years. It's supposedly slowed down to "only" 1.08% per year - at that rate - there'll be 16 billion of us in about 63 years.

It's too many, so there will be a turning of the tide whether we do it or nature does.

People don't understand exponential growth - in the tens of thousands of years of human development it took us all that time to get to 1.5 billion in 1918 - 100 years later we've more than increased our number by 500% - another 500% increase and it's curtains for earth.

1961 3 billion people ate 20 kg of meat per year, about 6.5 billion chickens in there. That's about 1.5 billion metric tonnes of dry animal feed per year.

2014 7.5 billion of us ate 43kg of meat per year, about 68.5 billion chickens in there. That's over 8 billion metric tonnes of dry animal feed per year.

At 10 billion people we need to find 25% more land to grow animal feed, and crops, and petroleum, and energy, and water (cattle need water too - and lots of it), and etc.

At 12 billion we need 50% more than we use now.

How long til 10 billion - about 20 years (simple, indisputable maths).

How long til 12 Billion - about 35 years (simple indisputable maths).

People around the world aren't going to suddenly stop having babies because all 8 billion of them suddenly realise what a mess we're in - most of them have no idea - as long as there's food on the shelves at the supermarket they're happy. Until it suddenly stops.

Then the shit will really hit the fan, and if petroleum / oil runs out or gets less available then it'll happen faster because we need it to plant crops, harvest crops, process crops, ship crops, and make fertilisier and pesticides.

When that stops - we stop.
THIS^^^^^.

Soylent green comes to mind. Will there be a program to encourage people to volunteer to be fodder for the rich? Older, weak, non-productive people will be marched off to the canneries?
 
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Feb 5, 2021
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I wonder if UK will ever try to ban CO method for example no more charcoal ? Maybe they will claim global warming as the excuse
Not after Satan I mean Bill Gates gets done with his calcium carbonate filled weather balloons he's gonna dim the Sun with....
 
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Jun 1, 2020
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Its so fucked that the authorities infringe on our rights to peacefully die with dignity.
 
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