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[basedsuicidemaxxer]

Hi guys. New to the forum here. I'm primarily thinking about fsh to ctb. since there is no place in the city i'm in, i'm thinking about going outside of the city to do it. Would finding some obscure hiking trail, going off the path a ways, and doing fsh at some random tree at 3 am be a bad idea?

 

[Worndown]

If you can do it without being found for a while, yes.

 

[Nullm]

I'm wanna bring up the subject of location in case there are some like me who don't have their own place and also can't drive themselves to explore remote areas
If anyone have any ideas on where to start looking
For example national parks
Wtf are opening hours I thought It was supposed to be public places also you can't trust google I made my way to one and it was cut down despite still appearing on google
Edit: (Perhaps posting on your local subreddit saying you need woods area in your vicnity for a drug experience)

 

[Nullm]

Turns out it's in the first place you should look, e.g Wikipedia ,and little bit of navigation app .
Apparently only 6% of my country is forested but there is an encouraging list of about 40 forests
Of course only few of them reachable by public transportation but it's much better than the info I found in all those shitty official and commercial internet sites Who were supposed to provide info on nature and hiking areas
Still it's not very accessible for me because there are many variables
Edit : I would have liked much more to go to a construction or abonded site but a lot areas in my town are on cctv and I read some news articles about people littering and very soon after approached by authorities which makes me suspect that those CCTVs are somehow monitored in real time

 

[krai]

One of the few options I have is full suspension, although the spot I have is not ideal. The anchor point seems sturdy enough (tested as much as I could), but there're vertical surfaces that I'll bump into, I don't know if that'll interfere. It's a built in floor to ceiling wardrobe (approximately 2,5m and my height is less than 1,7m).

I'm thinking of putting my back towards the green padding, that should (I hope) allow me more freedom of movement, to dangle freely at least in back and front direction, being only obstructed on my left side by the main closet door (in white). Seems to me a better option than to be with my back towards the white door. Am I wrong in my assumptions? Would like to hear your opinion guys.
And I don't know if I should use a bit of padding with a small thin towel in the front...?

Also one more thing that troubles me greatly - where to position the noose on my neck? I've read conflicting opinions on that... some say that it should be as high up your jawline as possible, others say in the lower part of your neck. So which is the best placement for full suspension?
I know that for partial is different and you better find your "sweet spot", but I tried a lot and can't seem to find it, only managed to press on my jugular and get the nasty high pressure feeling in my head because of it. Same reason I failed the night-night method I gues, despite educating myself as much as I can in the short time I have. I don't have much time for experiments and every failure spikes up my anxiety.
So if there's an optimal position for the noose on your neck (for full suspension), please do share.
I'm also debating if before hanging I should drink antifreeze - monoethylene glycol (although the expiration date is 2016 and I don't know how effective it'll be...). I'm thinking if I don't get unconscious and it gets agonizing, then go for the hanging option.
I live alone and there's no one to interrupt me.

 

[steppingoff]

It's always good to have accessible information Hanging is the way a large number choose to CTB. Sits it's helpful

 

[krai]

It's below the jawline for full suspension and yes this location looks fine. I wouldn't drink the antifreeze before as you want to be as comfortable as possible before you do this (hence why some take seditives like medication or alcohol before).

Thank you! Below the jawline, got it.
The first phase of antifreeze poisoning should feel like you're drunk, but the dizziness may prevent me from climbing up to the rope successfully. Also it's questionable (if I can manage to hold off till the 2nd phase), that I'll be in a state to drag myself to the rope. On the other hand if I fail the hanging, I won't be able to drink anything I suppose.
With adding the antifreeze to the hanging perhaps I was trying to get myself to a point (mentally and physically) where my subconsciousness wont fight me as much, since it's pretty lethal on it's own albeit slow.

 

[krai]

Strangle yourself below the Adamsapple as shown in the image above and you'll be able to emulate much of what you're gonna do with the full suspension. You can perhaps determine from that how likely you're gonna want to free yourself as it'll get you close to the point of passing out.

Yeah, I'll try that thanks! So far I haven't been even remotely close to passing out, although I did attempted cinching the carotid arteries in various ways - fingers, rope, socks full with beans and a ratchet strap.

 

[krai]

If you do it in the right place below it as shown in the image I posted (where you feel a dip) then it's easy and your ears will ring soonafter and you'll feel tingles in parts of your body.

Huh strange... ok, so I sit down and started trying different positions of the rope. 1st started with the pic from the pdf hanging guide, that's the one you're referring to, right?

I started with that rope position, moving my head instinctively down, so I continued testing with that position moving slightly the rope up with every new attempt. Everytime the same result - head bursting feeling from the pressure. Almost gave up, but then decided to try same rope positions, but with head looking straight ahead, same result only that now I saw my head getting red as tomato since now I was facing a mirror, there was one exception tho. The last noose position I tried finally gave me that elusive effect of close to blacking out feeling. Eureka! But I had to stop since I only held the rope in my hands crossed behind me and pulling in the opposite directions both ends. I went carefully for a marker, didn't move the rope even a millimeter, marked the spot and still without moving the rope tried again, but only got the exploding head feeling, the road to blackness is lost again...

 

[krai]

I wonder if that's where my adams apple would have been if I was a male.
It's hard following directions like "2 fingers below your Adamsapple" or "just above your Adamsapple"
Anyway, thank you for responding CTB_Coward!

 

[Alpercino]

How loud is it gonna get while full suspension btw?

 

[Soc]

When it comes to suspension hanging, is it a bad idea to tie off from a balcony and jump so you get the drop-hanging benefit of swift uncosciousness and death. Wondering if doing it late at night would mean nobody would notice me until the morning. Probably not the most private way to go though.

 

[krai]

When it comes to suspension hanging, is it a bad idea to tie off from a balcony and jump so you get the drop-hanging benefit of swift uncosciousness and death. Wondering if doing it late at night would mean nobody would notice me until the morning. Probably not the most private way to go though.

That sounds very very scary to me. So many things to go wrong and it's not like you can really test it beforehand. What if your anchor point gives in and you're not high enough to die from the fall, what if your knot doesn't hold, what if your rope breaks, what if you don't calculate correctly your ropes lenght etc

 

[Soc]

It's a high floor and the anchor point is solid concrete frame of the balcony that the rope can loop around. I just want it to be done and make sure it's done. True actually letting myself jump/fall may be very difficult. I'm considering partial in the flat as well.

 

[rozeske]

Thank you! Below the jawline, got it.
The first phase of antifreeze poisoning should feel like you're drunk, but the dizziness may prevent me from climbing up to the rope successfully. Also it's questionable (if I can manage to hold off till the 2nd phase), that I'll be in a state to drag myself to the rope. On the other hand if I fail the hanging, I won't be able to drink anything I suppose.
With adding the antifreeze to the hanging perhaps I was trying to get myself to a point (mentally and physically) where my subconsciousness wont fight me as much, since it's pretty lethal on it's own albeit slow.

Please don't take antifreeze, it's not as quick as you think. There is a member here who took antifreeze and didn't fall unconscious even after 13hrs, had to finally call for help.

 

[krai]

Please don't take antifreeze, it's not as quick as you think. There is a member here who took antifreeze and didn't fall unconscious even after 13hrs, had to finally call for help.

Yeah, it's a long process and I'm not too keen about it, especially since I could be conscious the entire time and in agony, that's why I was contemplating combining it with hanging if/when it becomes too much to bare. But there's too much uncertainty in what state I would be at that point and if I'll be able to properly hang. So I gave up that idea... mostly... there're occasional thoughts crossing my mind, but in the end the uncertainty stops me.
Seems like that person was in the end of stage 1 or in the beginning of stage 2, if they ingested the right type of antifreeze that is, because there's a safer version.

 

[Alpercino]

Today i tried full suspension to see how it feels.
The slip knot around my neck did not feel right since the backside of my neck was free. Is that right?
Nevertheless my head began to go red after a few seconds, is that right?
I got a 10 mm polyester rope which supports 360 kgs, should i be concerned that it will fail?
The pressure felt is very heavy , sheer will is required i guess . Will alcohol help?
Thanks for everyone taking time for this post

 

[rozeske]

Yeah, it's a long process and I'm not too keen about it, especially since I could be conscious the entire time and in agony, that's why I was contemplating combining it with hanging if/when it becomes too much to bare. But there's too much uncertainty in what state I would be at that point and if I'll be able to properly hang. So I gave up that idea... mostly... there're occasional thoughts crossing my mind, but in the end the uncertainty stops me.
Seems like that person was in the end of stage 1 or in the beginning of stage 2, if they ingested the right type of antifreeze that is, because there's a safer version.
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Yes given you take the right type and dose and given you don't regrate and abort your plan, It could work on it's own even if it's a long process. But In my opinion it doesn't make sense to to combine it with hanging. If properly done hanging takes effect in less than 20 seconds, where as the antifreeze starts to take effect in ~12hrs. It seems unnecessary, but that is just in my opinion.

 

[Alpercino]

As long as the knot sat at the back of your neck this was fine. I'm guessing by what you describe that you only managed your attempt for a few seconds due to the pressure you felt on your head? The rope seems fine providing the knots are secure. Alcohol can help but I really wish I could find the post where someone pointed out a potential reason for not taking it.
Were you feeling tingles around your body and ringing in your ears?

I mean the slip knot on the backside does not touch my neck, therefore there is only pressure from the front, i mean it does not compress my neck from both sides that way idk if thats normal.

The knots are from the SS tutorials.

I Feel my head pressure and my head going red and my SI kicking in i think. I need something to help me get over this phase ,will try alcohol /sleeping pills.
Pain is pretty much the pressure on my head and unfortunately my back + leg since i had a disc proclapse from deadlifts

 

[Alpercino]

The noose should make contact on all sides. Are you securing/tightening it around your neck before you lower yourself? You could also see if using an overhand loop or poachers knot works if not.

Pretty much this knot where it can slide. I let it hang there and go head first into it and then lower myself so it slides as far as it goes with the pressure of my body.
Do i just have to practice and get the right angles and stuff so the knot slides so it pressures from back and front? Like the question is how tight does it have to be from the back. Just touch?

 

[Alpercino]

The noose goes below your jawline and you're supposed to pull/secure it fairly tight and then step off to drop so that the correctly positioned noose barely/if at all moves when it tensions under you weight. I've not tried full suspension myself and I'm still kinda hoping I don't need to resort to it but from all the learning I've done that is the way to do it. As I said there are two other sliding knots to try of the above doesn't help. Do not do a hangmans noose.

Partial sounds much worse as you literally have to push yourself so hard actively which the full suspension does by design or?

 

[Alpercino]

No! Do not push/pull your body in partial suspension. The idea is still to use your body weight and the varying partial positions will determine how much of your weight is transferred to the noose. The reason you mustn't actively use your muscle to generate the force to knock yourself out is because once you're unconscious and possibly convulsing your muscles will no longer be working to maintain the force preventing the blood flow and so you'll either fail or potentially risk brain damage.

sounds like finding the right partial position is the key. Full suspension still sounds easier but i guess its more frightening since you dont touch something

 

[Alpercino]

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Will this polyester 10 mm rope be good enough? I wonder if its gonna be tight enough material wise

 

[Alpercino]

I just tried to get it done and i realised that my brain really wants to be sure that all is right and i am not gonna end up as vegetable.

Let myself go in a full suspension and the pressure is IMMENSE and really i realised that hanging is a very barbaric way to suicide and in a weird way very satisfying.

when i drop and the crazy pressure is on my neck how long does it need me to go unconsiouss, i am 28 and fairly muscular?

If the rope does not break and i do not get interrupted in 1 hour will i be dead 100%?

 

[Alpercino]

I can answer a few questions and wanna ask a few.

If the rope, knots and anchor point holds then you can be dead in 20-30mins. You're supposed to be unconscious in around 10 seconds.

I'm not surprised the pressure is immense or at least this is what I was worried about. How many seconds were you hanging for before you stopped and how long after did your neck hurt?

Didnt know how much time I have, so it was max 3 seconds and my neck didnt hurt much after, just a red mark that didnt last long either.

 

[Alpercino]

3 seconds isn't long (although under the circumstances I appreciate it seems it and is hard) so did you feel any lightheadedness or ear ringing in that short time? The only other thing is where the noose ends up once you lower yourself and presumably you did make it fairly tight before you lowered?
Was it easy getting back onto your stool?

It was inside the blue cagelike thing in the middle so my feet and hands always had somewhere to get back up from so it was easy.

The only thing i felt besides the immense pressure was the light feeling of my head exploding

 

[Alpercino]

Not good or ideal from full suspension. Kinda worries me.

Yeah as i dont know how it should feel its really hard to commit.. hanging is really something else

 

[Taraxias]

It's a high floor and the anchor point is solid concrete frame of the balcony that the rope can loop around. I just want it to be done and make sure it's done. True actually letting myself jump/fall may be very difficult. I'm considering partial in the flat as well.

I am thinking about this also.
. I have a concrete column for ankor point . I got a 12 mm rope and i am 150 kilos . Will it hold ?
I did the slipknot for the head and for the ankor point it has a carabbiner. It feels scary though . Any thoughts about perfection?

 

[Taraxias]

I don't envy you at all because I'm worried enough about what my 97kg weight will feel like on my neck in a noose given that most people seem to have the fortune of being quite a bit lighter. The load bearing capacity of the rope may be stated on the packaging but ultimately the material and whether it's twisted or braided will be more important than thickness. Do a snuggle hitch knot for the anchor point.

Do you mean that my weight can make it more painfull? Or to not make the knot to not tighten enough and let me hanging alive?
I have a 12 mm rope it claims to be safe up to 2100 kilos it us 10 meters long and has a carabbiner at the one end it feels kind of stiff
I also have a weider one maybe 16mm at 8 metrrs lomg without carabiner ,this one feels softer then the other

 

[JOkE2109]

Just going to document this here. I have a 1in thick 4 strand twisted jute rope as a ligature tied to a sturdy anchor point (pole) with a snuggle hitch knot. I have been using a slip knot for the knot that goes around my neck. I've done "testing" recently. I've been practicing the slip knot which I have down very good now, I can just stand on the stool (table in this case) and tie the knot around my neck. I also tend to lower my leg down to the ground with the rope tied around my neck, and sometimes I can kind of scrape the bottom of the floor with the tips of my toes which is kind of concerning to me, but I'm pretty sure it won't really matter since a lot of times full ends up becoming partial anyway after you are left hanging (I've seen pictures of it). I also experience slight pressure in my head while doing this and in general just kind of a weird feeling, I take this as what you are supposed to feel. I can also feel kind of a choking sensation if I have the rope too low down, so I try to keep it as far up as possible. My plan is to just jump off when the time comes and hang. Everything sounds good to me, what do you guys think?