Hades_de
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- Aug 9, 2023
- 26
im from the netherlands and i keep hearing about "middel X" on TV is there a good source for it? and how good is it?
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- Mar 4, 2024
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Nitschke discusses it some on the Exit podcast in these episodes:
www.peacefulpillhandbook.com
www.peacefulpillhandbook.com
and
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The Azide Wars - The Peaceful Pill Handbook
The Azide Wars have come about with the advent in the Netherlands of Middel X as an end of life method. As a country where voluntary euthanasia has long been legal, there has been a groundswell of discontentment amongst older people who resent having to ask doctors for help to die. Addressing...
www.peacefulpillhandbook.com
Lethal Salts & the Law - The Peaceful Pill Handbook
In some ways the Lethal Salts have remained under the right-to-die radar. But are they the new Drion pill? Are they the new peaceful pill? What does the law have to say on these relatively freely available lethal substances? And what of a clamp-down to prevent public access? Some even suggest...
www.peacefulpillhandbook.com
and
Lethal Salts Part II - The Peaceful Pill Handbook
This Podcast continues the discussion of the Lethal Salts by taking a look at a number of eye witness accounts and teasing out some of the elements of the Exit RPA Test – the Reliability, Peacefulness, Availability Test as it is discussed and used in The Peaceful Pill eHandbook.
www.peacefulpillhandbook.com
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Hades_de
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- Aug 9, 2023
- 26
i dont think i'd be able to get it online right? because its been in the news so much the past few days; the people are prolly on high alert
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I think you can get it online as well and I think it's popular in the Netherlands (I heard that there is an underground trade in the big cities to some extent) for some reason, but elsewhere it seems to be extremely rare.
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2-3gm in 50 ml of de-mineralised water. Stirring should be done with a plastic spoon.
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verrobasd
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- Feb 24, 2024
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As a private person it's really difficult to order from a legitimate source within the Netherlands. A business (owner) or even just ZZP'er shouldn't have too many problems obtaining it. You'd generally need a KVK (chamber of commerce) registration.
Private persons would need to get it from an 'underground' source (it's widely available though) or order abroad, there are still plenty of sources within Europe delivering SA to the Netherlands to private persons.
Private persons would need to get it from an 'underground' source (it's widely available though) or order abroad, there are still plenty of sources within Europe delivering SA to the Netherlands to private persons.
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May I know why it should be de-mineralized? I've seen the same recommendation made in the case of SN as well.
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Alex Fermentopathy
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- Feb 25, 2024
- 240
Just order a distilled water and check it with salinity meter (it should display 0 ppm).
As far as I remember, In the PPH there is no such recommendation for SN.
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Oh I am not sure then.. I think I came across it on some thread in this forum.. I will have to get that corroborated. Do you happen to know what sort of water should be used for SN?
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Is distilled water safe to drink? I remember someone saying that it wasn't. I am not entirely sure why. I've seen it used generally for inverter batteries..
Couldn't this contain minerals? Like lead for example..?
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Alex Fermentopathy
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- Feb 25, 2024
- 240
Definitely more safe than drinking sodium azide.
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Got it ok. I am not sure I'll get tap water in a hotel room. I usually get bottled drinking water at home in a 20 litre can. I thought I'll get one of those 1 litre packaged drinking water bottles you get in shops. Would either of that be OK? If it has to be tap water, I'll have to filter it and boil it and take it with me in a bottle. May I know why tap water is recommended?
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I recommended it because it is free, it's the only water I consume and I know that it works.
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Sorry I meant to ask generally..
. I remember someone saying that one shouldn't drink it. Not sure if it was unsafe for some reason or something. Was just curious to know..Ah I see. You must be from the west.. Perhaps from Paris where I believe tap water is very poor. We have a distrust of tap water from where I come from as it might likely contain bacteria or other contaminants..
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Hades_de
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- Aug 9, 2023
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sadly i dont have any connection to the "underground"
don't they ask for allot of details?
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Alex Fermentopathy
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- Feb 25, 2024
- 240
No. That was no different than buying any other things online. The same way I ordered my SN (but do not plan to use it).
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Alex Fermentopathy
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- Feb 25, 2024
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If we are talking about a store with sodium azide, they only accept a transaction from Russian bank account. I don't think you have one.
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