N2O before hanging?

[Galahad]

My preferred method for several years has been towards inert gas exit bag or CO - preferably the latter but sourcing sulphuric acid is impossible.


Last week I started watching hanging videos here and was astounded how quickly most people blacked out.


Taking hanging to another level, I was thinking about being fully prepared and noose in place then inhaling N2O and falling off my step. I've seen here that people inhale N2O before drowning, surely it would be a good preparation for hanging too?

I've never inhaled N2O but understand the basics of how to.

Or is it worth it for a handful of seconds?

My only negative to inert gas is worrying about claustrophobia in the exit bag.

 

[itsgone2]

It might work. I've stood at that point a few times. I've also thought I need something that will push me to step forward.

 

[LostZombie]

I would recommend Argon if you want a peaceful way out with gas. Argon is a gas heavier than air with it being 40g~ per mole rather than the standard air mix of 29g~ per mole. So the argon is more heavy which will lead to less of it escaping your lungs (CO has about the same molar mass as air) and it will not have the same effect as CO/CO2 since rather than it changing the PH of your blood alerting your body that something is wrong it will just lead to hypoxia which is a good method. Another benefit to argon is its easy to grab, it's used in welding (some even have CO mix in them) so finding a cylinder of it would not be too hard. Along with all of this, the bag MAYYYY not be necessary due to argon being heavier. However i cannot make any guarantees on if it would work, I would need to do more research on the topic, but that's my ten cents if it's worth anything.

 

[Galahad]

I would recommend Argon if you want a peaceful way out with gas. Argon is a gas heavier than air with it being 40g~ per mole rather than the standard air mix of 29g~ per mole. So the argon is more heavy which will lead to less of it escaping your lungs (CO has about the same molar mass as air) and it will not have the same effect as CO/CO2 since rather than it changing the PH of your blood alerting your body that something is wrong it will just lead to hypoxia which is a good method. Another benefit to argon is its easy to grab, it's used in welding (some even have CO mix in them) so finding a cylinder of it would not be too hard. Along with all of this, the bag MAYYYY not be necessary due to argon being heavier. However i cannot make any guarantees on if it would work, I would need to do more research on the topic, but that's my ten cents if it's worth anything.

I've researched inert gas a lot but you've given me a new thought here!

I always favoured Helium, Nitrogen, Argon in that order due to lightness and staying in the bag as Helium and Nitrogen are lighter than air.

Your take of Argon being heavier and sitting in the lungs is very interesting though.

Helium is now restricted where I am for commercial use only. I can easily buy Nitrogen or Argon from welding stores.

The huge advantage of CO is that since it requires less than 1% by volume in air a nasal oxygen tube is sufficient.

It might work. I've stood at that point a few times. I've also thought I need something that will push me to step forward.

Exactly, something to take the edge off but an instant hit rather than taking a Benzo then passing out and forgetting to hang oneself

 

[LostZombie]

I've researched inert gas a lot but you've given me a new thought here!

I always favoured Helium, Nitrogen, Argon in that order due to lightness and staying in the bag as Helium and Nitrogen are lighter than air.

Your take of Argon being heavier and sitting in the lungs is very interesting though.

Helium is now restricted where I am for commercial use only. I can easily buy Nitrogen or Argon from welding stores.

The huge advantage of CO is that since it requires less than 1% by volume in air a nasal oxygen tube is sufficient.

Exactly, something to take the edge off but an instant hit rather than taking a Benzo then passing out and forgetting to hang oneself

Monotonic Nitrogen is lighter than air but, Nitrogen really needs to bond, so it usually goes with another nitrogen and at that point it's 28g~ per mol, which honestly would be a good buffer zone if you were to inhale lighter gas since it very similar the molar mass of air, and a good way to flush out oxygen since CO is not very stable, and will establish an equilibrium with CO2 of since the K of C02-> <-CO+ O 1/2 is very negative so excess oxygen could fuck with your plan. So maybe a better plan would bet to use argon to flush out the oxygen in your system, then use those lighter gasses to finish you off.

 

[deadinside232]

A friend of mine used N2o before he hang himself, from my personal experience it helps get dizzy/with SI a little...but for a very short time.

 

[Galahad]

A friend of mine used N2o before he hang himself, from my personal experience it helps get dizzy/with SI a little...but for a very short time.

Thanks.

That's pretty much what I had in mind. Take the N2O then fall off the step as it kicks in, with no distress.

 

[Intoxicated]

I've never inhaled N2O but understand the basics of how to.

Or is it worth it for a handful of seconds?

I think, the feeling of happiness alone is worth it.

Spoiler: Reaction of people on 50% N₂O / 50% O₂

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Note that if you breathe pure nitrous without mixing it with air or oxygen, you may lose consciousness before the N₂O-specific analgesic & euphoric effects take place, so its advantages over simple inert gases like nitrogen would not be noticeable then.

When inducing hypoxia, you'll probably lose voluntary control over the muscles before complete loss of consciousness, so you may still feel some discomfort from hanging for a few seconds once you fall, but this discomfort will be mitigated by partial loss of sensitivity due to hypoxia and possibly the analgesic and dissociative effects of nitrous.

Along with all of this, the bag MAYYYY not be necessary due to argon being heavier.

Even very heavy gases like SF₆ (146 g/mol) and C₄F₁₀ (238 g/mol) can escape the lungs similarly to lighter gases, it would just take a bit more time.

Spoiler: Inhaling SF₆ and C₄F₁₀

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[LostZombie]

Even very heavy gases like SF₆ (146 g/mol) and C₄F₁₀ (238 g/mol) can escape the lungs similarly to lighter gases, it would just take a bit more time.

That is the point, it's time and space without oxygen in your lungs, so imo I think it could be a supplemental to an exit bag to keep the area as oxygen free as possible. However in theory it COULD work, which is why I said may, since I would need to know how many mols of gas your lungs need to hold (assuming ideal gas law) and what you would need to keep you knocked you out. I'm not super well versed in it so I would probably need to do lots of research if I ever want to talk about a heavy gas death. For now I would recommend heavy gas to be supplemental.

 

[Worndown]

I have no doubt it will work.
Keyboard duster works too, but this might be better.
Whipped cream dispensers use the cartridges. They are abused as an alternate drug. Not sure how you use them.

 

[Hiro Uchiha]

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Lmao, just wanna say, Cody's Lab is very informative and hilarious. I always come across his videos when I'm looking for something related to ctb methods, particularly very informative on chemistry and toxicology.

 

[Intoxicated]

Whipped cream dispensers use the cartridges. They are abused as an alternate drug. Not sure how you use them.

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[vig919]

I think thinks is what I've been looking for. Seems like hanging is the way to go currently with all the hurdles for other methods.

I'm thinking this plus 3000mg THC should make it simple to pass out on a ladder and not have si kick in.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I think thinks is what I've been looking for. Seems like hanging is the way to go currently with all the hurdles for other methods.

I'm thinking this plus 3000mg THC should make it simple to pass out on a ladder and not have si kick in.

Marijuana effects everyone differently, but I would think that taking 3000mg of THC is going to make SI worse - I know it would for me and I've been a daily pot smoker for 20+ years. When I'm high, I start thinking too much - especially in high doses. For that reason I have told myself that I would not ctb while high because I'd never go through with it.

You may be different, however a lot of people get unwanted side effects from high dose, such as getting paranoid or overanalyzing everything. Its actually has more of a sedative effect in lower doses.

To lower inhibitions and push through SI, alcohol would be a much better choice for most people. Not drunk - that could just lead to making mistakes and a failed attempt - however a good buzz will lower inhibitions.