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Hello everyone, i need help and suggestions how to improve this method and if it would be viable by any chance.
Main Ingredient:
Depakote (Valproic Acid): 100g
Risperidone: 57mg
Quatiapine: 775mg
Clonazepam: 60mg

I am thinking of taking them all and downing them with some spirits (not to make me too much nauseous) like maybe some beer. dont have any antiemetics, as i read they are not so effective, gonna take them within 1-2mins and be in the middle of distant forrest. Probably will Depakote with another deppressants cause me to ctb. what do you think?
 
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Probably you wont die, just get in a mental facility.
 
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Agree. Unlikely to die.
 
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Probably you wont die, just get in a mental facility.
Depakote in high doses is toxic, especially 900mg/kg. Even sites say symptoms of overdose is death
Agree. Unlikely to die.

Those are high doses, not counting clonazepam, that you cant die from, but combined depressants, especially risperidone and quatepine can work as effective as aminatryptiline, we need @gingerplum opinion on this....
 
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Hmm. Didn't know that. I'm sure most meds have that warning label tho.
 
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You cant od on risperidone and quetiapine, forget them
The other two are anti seizure and anxiety medication and they are pretty hard to OD on too, you might want to look for another method
 
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You cant od on risperidone and quetiapine, forget them
The other two are anti seizure and anxiety medication and they are pretty hard to OD on too, you might want to look for another method
You can even die from alcohol if you drank enough to stop breathing... those amounts of supressants are huge hit to breathing, especially thinking im taking over 200 pills/tablets. That like saying SN is stupid method because we seen people fail... there are who OD on medication, but people who failed probably took mixture of variety medication that they had probably 30 pills of diazepam, 30 pills of lexapro, 30 pills ativan and hoped to die. My method includes breathing suppressants and cardiatic arrestants just like aminatryptiline.
 
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My method includes breathing suppressants and cardiatic arrestants just like aminatryptiline.

There aren't any "cardiac arrestants" here per se. In fact, initially your heart rate will increase, up to 200 BPM, as your body struggles to compensate for a critically low blood pressure. The central nervous system toxicity, secondary to Risperidine, will cause respiratory depression; as your level of consciousness decreases, so will your respiration rate until you go into respiratory arrest, followed by cardiac arrest.

Valproate (Depakote) causes mild toxicity in the majority of overdoses. Massive overdoses of greater than 400 mg kg−1 can cause severe toxicity, but these are uncommon. Overdose symptoms may include tachycardia, drowsiness, and vomiting.

In your case, a dose of 100 grams of Depakote (or Valproic acid) would be approximately 1,111 mg/kg, high enough to result in severe toxicity, according to the NIH.

I don't have any info on lethal dosage for Risperidine. Dosage is as low as 0.125 mg and up to a max 16 16 mg/day. Side effects for overdose include lethargy, spasm/dystonia, hypotension, tachycardia, and dysrhythmia.

As for Quatiapine, 775mg is not a huge dose, considering it comes in tablets that range from 25 to 400 mg. In one case, a female overdosed on 36 gms (wow) and was resuscitated.

Clonazepam 60 mg is also not a huge amount, depending on your regular dose. Maintenance dosage for seizure disorders (I surmise that's why you take it) is a max of 20 mg/day, so you may have some tolerance, even if your dose is much lower. Clonazepam is a benzo, so OD symptoms may include confusion, drowsiness, weakness, poor coordination, slow reflexes, fainting, and coma. I'd expect you to be much more prone to these effects if you only take 1 mg or less.

Whew, that's a lot of info. The upshot of all this is yes, I think even the Depakote alone would, theoretically, be enough for a fatal OD. Now, alcohol potentiates Depakote dramatically, so I think your original idea is a good one. I would drink a few shots of hard alcohol, not beer, if at all possible.

Take a blanket with you if you're going into the woods; you're gonna feel extremely tired & dizzy as soon as the effects hit you, and you'll want to lie down. Make sure the area is secluded and you won't be found.
 
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I go am looking at a cocktail like my benzos booze and placing myself out in the sea very cold water
I go am looking at a cocktail like my benzos booze and placing myself out in the sea very cold water
what does anyone think about my method I am looking at enough lorazepam to knock me out with some alcohol and then place myself in danger of drowning in cold sea how long will hypothermia take to assist me in this
 
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There aren't any "cardiac arrestants" here per se. In fact, initially your heart rate will increase, up to 200 BPM, as your body struggles to compensate for a critically low blood pressure. The central nervous system toxicity, secondary to Risperidine, will cause respiratory depression; as your level of consciousness decreases, so will your respiration rate until you go into respiratory arrest, followed by cardiac arrest.

Valproate (Depakote) causes mild toxicity in the majority of overdoses. Massive overdoses of greater than 400 mg kg−1 can cause severe toxicity, but these are uncommon. Overdose symptoms may include tachycardia, drowsiness, and vomiting.

In your case, a dose of 100 grams of Depakote (or Valproic acid) would be approximately 1,111 mg/kg, high enough to result in severe toxicity, according to the NIH.

I don't have any info on lethal dosage for Risperidine. Dosage is as low as 0.125 mg and up to a max 16 16 mg/day. Side effects for overdose include lethargy, spasm/dystonia, hypotension, tachycardia, and dysrhythmia.

As for Quatiapine, 775mg is not a huge dose, considering it comes in tablets that range from 25 to 400 mg. In one case, a female overdosed on 36 gms (wow) and was resuscitated.

Clonazepam 60 mg is also not a huge amount, depending on your regular dose. Maintenance dosage for seizure disorders (I surmise that's why you take it) is a max of 20 mg/day, so you may have some tolerance, even if your dose is much lower. Clonazepam is a benzo, so OD symptoms may include confusion, drowsiness, weakness, poor coordination, slow reflexes, fainting, and coma. I'd expect you to be much more prone to these effects if you only take 1 mg or less.

Whew, that's a lot of info. The upshot of all this is yes, I think even the Depakote alone would, theoretically, be enough for a fatal OD. Now, alcohol potentiates Depakote dramatically, so I think your original idea is a good one. I would drink a few shots of hard alcohol, not beer, if at all possible.

Take a blanket with you if you're going into the woods; you're gonna feel extremely tired & dizzy as soon as the effects hit you, and you'll want to lie down. Make sure the area is secluded and you won't be found.
Ive gathered 120grams depakote. is it an overkill? DO i have to take clonazepam, quetiapine and risperidone to make it more effective or just alcohol is fine? Will i throw up taking so many pills? or if i do is it gonna be too late?
 
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According to the literature I've reviewed, that much
Ive gathered 120grams depakote. is it an overkill? DO i have to take clonazepam, quetiapine and risperidone to make it more effective or just alcohol is fine? Will i throw up taking so many pills? or if i do is it gonna be too late?
According to the literature I've reviewed, that much Depakote is lethal, particularly with alcohol. Alcohol increase the nervous system side effects of divalproex sodium (Depakote) such as dizziness, drowsiness, and confusion.

The ONLY other med I would add is the clonazepam; benzos are very helpful in causing respiratory depression, especially with alcohol.

I have no way of knowing if you'll throw up, or how much if the medication you'll lose if you do; I wish I had a crystal ball, but I do not. I'm sorry that there are no guarantees... every method has inherent risks and drawbacks.
 
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According to the literature I've reviewed, that much

According to the literature I've reviewed, that much Depakote is lethal, particularly with alcohol. Alcohol increase the nervous system side effects of divalproex sodium (Depakote) such as dizziness, drowsiness, and confusion.

The ONLY other med I would add is the clonazepam; benzos are very helpful in causing respiratory depression, especially with alcohol.

I have no way of knowing if you'll throw up, or how much if the medication you'll lose if you do; I wish I had a crystal ball, but I do not. I'm sorry that there are no guarantees... every method has inherent risks and drawbacks.
what would be timeline of my death? btw thank you for you answers, youre really helpful!
what would be timeline of my death? what pills should i start drinking with wine? I hate strong alcohol, it makes me vomit. btw thank you for you answers, youre really helpful!
 
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The cases i read, showed ingestion of 250mg for 1 kg doses and it is not a massive overdoses, I'm taking four times more with alcohol and have stronger benzodiapines. Early admittance is a risk but I am able to not to be found for for at least 12 hours
 
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what would be timeline of my death? btw thank you for you answers, youre really helpful!

You are warmly welcomed.

I wish I could tell you what kind of timeline you're looking at, but I have no idea. There's no real data on this because if someone is being observed after a Valproic acid OD, they're in the middle of recusitive efforts, not a timeline of their decline.

One of the case studies does note that a woman was found 4 hrs (not sure how that was determined) after ingesting 25 gm and was drowsy but rousable; she was deeply unconscious 3 hrs later, although she did make a complete recovery after treatment.


I would ~guess~ that after downing your benzos with alcohol, you'd lose consciousness fairly rapidly and sleep thru the rest, even if it took 12 hrs total.

Of course, this is all for hypothetical purposes. Any other questions, please PM me.
 
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The cases i read, showed ingestion of 250mg for 1 kg doses and it is not a massive overdoses, I'm taking four times more with alcohol and have stronger benzodiapines. Early admittance is a risk but I am able to not to be found for for at least 12 hours
It's not something any of us can say, unless there's someone here who's survived that much.
 
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I'm ready this Sunday I think, I'll keep you updated
 
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I am thinking of passing out on railway tracks
 
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Those are "chrono", slow release. I'm not sure how the formulation works when your body is in overdose - vomiting and/or diarrhea might clear a lot of it early on, or make it pass before all has been released. As far as I remember, the tablets have a small fraction that is instantly released, and the rest will only release slowly once it reaches your gut. Found some information (Epilim is just another brand, and this is about instant release, like normal Depakote):

Cases of accidental and deliberate Epilim overdose have been reported. At plasma concentrations of up to 5 – 6 times the maximum therapeutic levels, there are unlikely to be any symptoms other than nausea, vomiting and dizziness.

Signs of acute massive overdose, i.e. plasma concentration 10 – 20 times maximum therapeutic levels, usually include CNS depression or coma with muscular hypotonia, hyporeflexia, miosis, impaired respiratory function, metabolic acidosis, hypotension and circulatory collapse/shock. A favourable outcome is usual, however some deaths have occurred following massive overdose.

Symptoms may however be variable and seizures have been reported in the presence of very high plasma levels (see also section 5.2 Pharmacokinetic Properties). Cases of intracranial hypertension related to cerebral oedema have been reported.

The presence of sodium content in the Epilim formulations may lead to hypernatraemia when taken in overdose.

Hospital management of overdose should be symptomatic, including cardio-respiratory monitoring. Gastric lavage may be useful up to 10 – 12 hours following ingestion.

Haemodialysis and haemoperfusion have been used successfully.

Naloxone has been successfully used in a few isolated cases, sometimes in association with activated charcoal given orally.

In case of massive overdose, haemodialysis and haemoperfusion have been used successfully.

Doesn't sound so great... From my own experience, it's pretty nasty just as a therapeutic medication at 1600mg/day, and has warnings about various toxic effects as dose increases, like liver damage.

If I fail, won't I become a vegetable?

It is possible, probably more with this than some alternatives talked about on this site. It's certainly a lot slower, and not a very effective CNS depressant.

I am thinking of passing out on railway tracks

This drug isn't really a painkiller, even in high doses, so if it fails to bring about a full coma, there's no guarantee that you won't feel that, partly or fully. What other options do you have available to you, or is your mind set on this plan?
 
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Hello everyone, i need help and suggestions how to improve this method and if it would be viable by any chance.
Main Ingredient:
Depakote (Valproic Acid): 100g
Risperidone: 57mg
Quatiapine: 775mg
Clonazepam: 60mg

I am thinking of taking them all and downing them with some spirits (not to make me too much nauseous) like maybe some beer. dont have any antiemetics, as i read they are not so effective, gonna take them within 1-2mins and be in the middle of distant forrest. Probably will Depakote with another deppressants cause me to ctb. what do you think?
I don't know what half of these meds are. I probably know the generic names. But what you need to do IF you have the right amount is crush them up and out them in pudding or yogurt. You're going to need anti nausea medication and take them every 6-8 hours for two days while not eating. So you'll have to plan the day of your death ahead of time.
 
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Those are "chrono", slow release. I'm not sure how the formulation works when your body is in overdose - vomiting and/or diarrhea might clear a lot of it early on, or make it pass before all has been released. As far as I remember, the tablets have a small fraction that is instantly released, and the rest will only release slowly once it reaches your gut. Found some information (Epilim is just another brand, and this is about instant release, like normal Depakote):



Doesn't sound so great... From my own experience, it's pretty nasty just as a therapeutic medication at 1600mg/day, and has warnings about various toxic effects as dose increases, like liver damage.



It is possible, probably more with this than some alternatives talked about on this site. It's certainly a lot slower, and not a very effective CNS depressant.



This drug isn't really a painkiller, even in high doses, so if it fails to bring about a full coma, there's no guarantee that you won't feel that, partly or fully. What other options do you have available to you, or is your mind set on this plan?
I tried partial hanging but I doesn't work for me, I live near railroad tracks so that's an option for me. Also I'm thinking of amitriptyline but I said I don't like to my doctor when it was prescribed and I would look suspicious for asking to prescribe it to me again.
 
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I tried partial hanging but I doesn't work for me, I live near railroad tracks so that's an option for me. Also I'm thinking of amitriptyline but I said I don't like to my doctor when it was prescribed and I would look suspicious for asking to prescribe it to me again.
From what I've read patients presenting with sodium valproate overdoses seem to be tested for cerebral edema very quickly, could be very effective in causing brain damage if you were taken into hospital unconscious; but if left long enough you would certainly be dead.

 
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I have about 40 500mg of depakote er, 30 mg of clonazepam, 40 450mg lithium er, 2 10mg of maxalt mlt, maybe 100 25mg of vistaril and a pill crusher. Was planning on diluting in a large 5hr energy double shot bottle. I need a single dose, permanent solution so as not to be taken to BH again. High potency but doesn't have to be fast acting but it would be nice. Do I have the tools and how do I use them? Or does nothing readily available like this exist in reality and I will just have to peirce my heart? Please help me find a way to leave with out anyone stopping me. Thank you
I have about 40 500mg of depakote er, 30 mg of clonazepam, 40 450mg lithium er, 2 10mg of maxalt mlt, maybe 100 25mg of vistaril and a pill crusher. Was planning on diluting in a large 5hr energy double shot bottle. I need a single dose, permanent solution so as not to be taken to BH again. High potency but doesn't have to be fast acting but it would be nice. Do I have the tools and how do I use them? Or does nothing readily available like this exist in reality and I will just have to peirce my heart? Please help me find a way to leave with out anyone stopping me. Thank you
You are warmly welcomed.

I wish I could tell you what kind of timeline you're looking at, but I have no idea. There's no real data on this because if someone is being observed after a Valproic acid OD, they're in the middle of recusitive efforts, not a timeline of their decline.

One of the case studies does note that a woman was found 4 hrs (not sure how that was determined) after ingesting 25 gm and was drowsy but rousable; she was deeply unconscious 3 hrs later, although she did make a complete recovery after treatment.


I would ~guess~ that after downing your benzos with alcohol, you'd lose consciousness fairly rapidly and sleep thru the rest, even if it took 12 hrs total.

Of course, this is all for hypothetical purposes. Any other questions, please PM me.
I just made a post and would very much appreciate your help
I have about 40 500mg of depakote er, 30 mg of clonazepam, 40 450mg lithium er, 2 10mg of maxalt mlt, maybe 100 25mg of vistaril and a pill crusher. Was planning on diluting in a large 5hr energy double shot bottle. I need a single dose, permanent solution so as not to be taken to BH again. High potency but doesn't have to be fast acting but it would be nice. Do I have the tools and how do I use them? Or does nothing readily available like this exist in reality and I will just have to peirce my heart? Please help me find a way to leave with out anyone stopping me. Thank you
I have about 40 500mg of depakote er, 30 mg of clonazepam, 40 450mg lithium er, 2 10mg of maxalt mlt, maybe 100 25mg of vistaril and a pill crusher. Was planning on diluting in a large 5hr energy double shot bottle. I need a single dose, permanent solution so as not to be taken to BH again. High potency but doesn't have to be fast acting but it would be nice. Do I have the tools and how do I use them? Or does nothing readily available like this exist in reality and I will just have to peirce my heart? Please help me find a way to leave with out anyone stopping me. Thank you

I just made a post and would very much appreciate your help
Also, I weight 175lb, 79.4kg
 
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I have about 40 500mg of depakote er, 30 mg of clonazepam, 40 450mg lithium er, 2 10mg of maxalt mlt, maybe 100 25mg of vistaril and a pill crusher. Was planning on diluting in a large 5hr energy double shot bottle. I need a single dose, permanent solution so as not to be taken to BH again. High potency but doesn't have to be fast acting but it would be nice. Do I have the tools and how do I use them? Or does nothing readily available like this exist in reality and I will just have to peirce my heart? Please help me find a way to leave with out anyone stopping me. Thank you
I have about 40 500mg of depakote er, 30 mg of clonazepam, 40 450mg lithium er, 2 10mg of maxalt mlt, maybe 100 25mg of vistaril and a pill crusher. Was planning on diluting in a large 5hr energy double shot bottle. I need a single dose, permanent solution so as not to be taken to BH again. High potency but doesn't have to be fast acting but it would be nice. Do I have the tools and how do I use them? Or does nothing readily available like this exist in reality and I will just have to peirce my heart? Please help me find a way to leave with out anyone stopping me. Thank you

I just made a post and would very much appreciate your help

Also, I weight 175lb, 79.4kg
Anyone? Please help. I have one shot at this.
 
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Get some opiate, your meds won't do shit except maybe tardive dyskinesia.
 
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