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lmon

lmon

Specialist
Jan 9, 2022
328
Because this are handpicked videos for the public.

Imagine, they would publish a Dignitas video with a 43 years old lady from Germany, who took 15 Gramm N ten years ago and was yelling "I am burning!" after swallowing it before she felt asleep 4 minutes later.

After the immediate yelling there was no sign of any pain, but if euthanasia groups would publish anything on video, which sounds or looks disturbing, they would lose many of their clients and would be under more massive pressure by governments. So handpicked stories and videos is the result, not only to protect their business model but also to protect their clients, that they do not lose this last resort.

The Helium desaster of Dignitas is a good example, how a pieceful methode will be removed from an euthanasia group, because the videos have been so disturbing to the prosecuter due to mistakes they made and what was leaked to the press, that they never again will use it.

So the gas method is dead for whole Europe. Never again one euthanasia group will use it here. Nitschke's hope is with the Sarco and his connections to Switzerland.

The only remaining peaceful N method must be protected at all costs.
What was the helium disaster?
 
VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
Meto is a dopamine antagonist and can have some pretty nasty side effects for some people. Google it. Zofran is a serotonin antagonist so also can have side effects but less nasty than meto.
Will you use Zofran and the plastic bag still?
 
CiproKilledMe

CiproKilledMe

Experienced
Mar 23, 2021
243
I did a time trial the other day with a 30-gallon trash bag over my head to see how long I could last before it became unbearable. I lasted less than three minutes. It's gonna be really tricky to get that timed just right with the N. If I wait too long to put the bag on I might suddenly pass out without getting it on at all, but if I put it on too soon I end up in agony gasping for air (defeats the purpose of a peaceful/painless method). It really should not be this difficult to have a pain-free and 100% certain death.
 
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VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
I did a time trial the other day with a 30-gallon trash bag over my head to see how long I could last before it became unbearable. I lasted less than three minutes. It's gonna be really tricky to get that timed just right with the N. If I wait too long to put the bag on I might suddenly pass out without getting it on at all, but if I put it on too soon I end up in agony gasping for air (defeats the purpose of a peaceful/painless method). It really should not be this difficult to have a pain-free and 100% certain death.
Right. N is a very time sensitive method and we cannot lose sight of that.

After getting the liquid down, there might be a sense of disorientation where the process of putting the bag over the head is difficult to achieve.

I seriously think I'll decant (delicately pour) the N into a few (maybe 3??) shot glasses to really get in the frame of mind of being at a party or something and attempting the latest spirits.
The mental game is obviously an important one. You don't have to look further than the OP of this thread to discern that.

Edit: (meaning I will chug each shot glass one after another without pausing).
 
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PigeonDreamzz

PigeonDreamzz

The broken Pigeon
Feb 3, 2022
68
I'm soon 24, female, 1,67m high and only weigh 50kg. So one bottle should be enough. I live in germany though. So getting any kind of stronger meds is nearly impossible here. I remember one operation in the belly and after that I had over 6 weeks a constipation due to a horrible doctor who had the idea to give me fucking iron pills which cause constipation directly after the operation..and I got ibuprofen 800mg prescriped for the pain..I read somewhere that N should kill even without AE..but the discussion here made me concerns regarding that. I have no problem sipping horrible fluids in one go. Time won't also be a problem since I live alone and no one would check on me. Even if, mostly people are concerned after 3 days. So no one is checking on me everyday. Can I just drink it all at once without puking? What do you think? I am not so much the "puker". Even on 2 per mil alcohol didnt cause me to actually vomit. And at that time I wasn't used to alcohol at all.. And what's about food? How long should I fast before taking the N? I consider my birthday or the day after that to be my last day on earth. Still not sure though. I have one last goal but everyday seems to be so painful and my birthday is rather soon..(27.05)
 
Red Scare

Red Scare

Wizard
Mar 1, 2022
647
Right. N is a very time sensitive method and we cannot lose sight of that.

After getting the liquid down, there might be a sense of disorientation where the process of putting the bag over the head is difficult to achieve.

I seriously think I'll decant (delicately pour) the N into a few (maybe 3??) shot glasses to really get in the frame of mind of being at a party or something and attempting the latest spirits.
The mental game is obviously an important one. You don't have to look further than the OP of this thread to discern that.

Edit: (meaning I will chug each shot glass one after another without pausing)
I was going to do the same. A standard shot glass is about 50ml according to google, so 200ml is like taking two double shots. I was planning on getting two of the taller double shot glasses and putting it into those. Then when the time comes I will take the double shots one after the other, drink a chaser, and hopefully keep it down. I won't he's using an antiemetic because of the side effects, and it's usually not needed with n, I just hope the taste is not so bitter I gag and throw it up anyway. (I to do it right before bed time so in my mind it's like going to sleep, just like I do every night, no big deal).
 
insomni_yak001

insomni_yak001

Member
Mar 31, 2022
36
Right. N is a very time sensitive method and we cannot lose sight of that.

After getting the liquid down, there might be a sense of disorientation where the process of putting the bag over the head is difficult to achieve.

I seriously think I'll decant (delicately pour) the N into a few (maybe 3??) shot glasses to really get in the frame of mind of being at a party or something and attempting the latest spirits.
The mental game is obviously an important one. You don't have to look further than the OP of this thread to discern that.

Edit: (meaning I will chug each shot glass one after another without pausing).
Is taking it like a shot the best method to reduce the incidence of vomiting though? I'm very torn on this. Taking a shot of chemicals not meant for human consumption seems like it'd cause a strong gag reflex... but I'm not sure if sipping it is any easier.

--
OP - my heart breaks for you <3
 
Red Scare

Red Scare

Wizard
Mar 1, 2022
647
Is taking it like a shot the best method to reduce the incidence of vomiting though? I'm very torn on this. Taking a shot of chemicals not meant for human consumption seems like it'd cause a strong gag reflex... but I'm not sure if sipping it is any easier.

--
OP - my heart breaks for you <3
Either way, sipping it is not recommended. They recommend you gulp it down quickly. Because the effects are fast acting, if you take sips you will pass out without ingesting a lethal amount, there's no telling how long you could be out for hours, a day, two days.
 
hankbank3928

hankbank3928

Student
Dec 30, 2021
186
Can OP give us an update on what happened to him?
 
VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
I was going to do the same. A standard shot glass is about 50ml according to google, so 200ml is like taking two double shots. I was planning on getting two of the taller double shot glasses and putting it into those. Then when the time comes I will take the double shots one after the other, drink a chaser, and hopefully keep it down. I won't he's using an antiemetic because of the side effects, and it's usually not needed with n, I just hope the taste is not so bitter I gag and throw it up anyway. (I to do it right before bed time so in my mind it's like going to sleep, just like I do every night, no big deal).
Exactly! 2 tall shot glasses seems best.

A double shot is like slamming down half the glass then then last half, followed by the next double shot?
I could google, but curious if that's what you mean.

Yes. I sleep 12 hours every night now due to stress. So an eternity is fine by me. Sleep is the best part of life, which I think even a lot of happy people could agree with.
Is taking it like a shot the best method to reduce the incidence of vomiting though? I'm very torn on this. Taking a shot of chemicals not meant for human consumption seems like it'd cause a strong gag reflex... but I'm not sure if sipping it is any easier.

--
OP - my heart breaks for you <3
Sipping seems the worst. Try sipping strong alcohol, it just wouldn't be feasible.
 
Red Scare

Red Scare

Wizard
Mar 1, 2022
647
A double shot is like slamming down half the glass then then last half, followed by the next double shot?
No, a double shot is called a double shot, because the shot glass holds two shots worth. It's like taking two shots at once.

The standard shot glass size is 50ml. A tall shot glass, aka a double shot, holds 100ml.

I plan to use two tall shot glasses. I will drink one followed immediately by the other, then a chaser. So that's 100ml in each gulp

One followed by the other, and then a chaser.

Sorry if that is still not clear enough.

Sipping seems the worst. Try sipping strong alcohol, it just wouldn't be feasible.
lol, I am used to sipping bourbon and other liquors on the rocks. Hopefully that means the N will still be effective. Apparently it doesn't work as well if you have a history of alcohol abuse.
 
VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
No, a double shot is called a double shot, because the shot glass holds two shots worth. It's like taking two shots at once.

The standard shot glass size is 50ml. A tall shot glass, aka a double shot, holds 100ml.

I plan to use two tall shot glasses. I will drink one followed immediately by the other, then a chaser. So that's 100ml in each gulp

One followed by the other, and then a chaser.

Sorry if that is still not clear enough.


lol, I am used to sipping bourbon and other liquors on the rocks. Hopefully that means the N will still be effective. Apparently it doesn't work as well if you have a history of alcohol abuse.
Thank you, that is a perfectly clear explanation.
I will do the same. 100ml per gulp and I will practice.

Take care.
 
Q

quix77

Member
Apr 29, 2022
29
Theoretically - you can administer N rectally. Absorption rate via rectum is supposedly 90% as opposed to 80% orally.

I have no idea how this would be achieved though. Perhaps soak a tampon in N and insert it rectally? I have heard of people doing this with vodka to get drunk without actually drinking it.

I have tried searching for information on this - but alas - there is none.

One possibility could be to administer it via an enema. Problem is - would it be quick enough. And if you pass out before you administer the entire, fatal dosage - you would have wasted the N.

Anyways - this is pretty theoretical at this point for me, since I am going to be chugging my N soon (orally).

But perhaps someone with a medical background /knowledge can opine on this.
 
Demian

Demian

Member
Mar 25, 2024
77
My dream is to get N or a gun, but both are impossible for me.

I only have morphine and phenobarbital as available methods that I have the courage to use.
 
J

J&L383

Experienced
Jul 18, 2023
250
Thank you for sharing your experience.

The vomiting likely saved you, but why the antiemetic didn't work? But even with the vomiting, your body still absorbed enough to nearly kill you.

As for the Swiss options, Dignitas almost exclusively uses oral method, but I do believe they use a powdered form so you don't have to drink a lot of liquid. And perhaps it's less nauseating? Pegasos exclusively uses IV, which I guess would be the veterinary product. IV is going to be more reliable and more pleasant, but super quick - you're out within seconds. The more slowly falling-to-sleep scenario of oral ingestion seems more appealing to me, but not at the cost of the taste and potential vomiting.
 
divinemistress36

divinemistress36

Enlightened
Jan 1, 2024
1,623
If only I was here back in 2021!
 

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