Method Morphine + Benzo OD

[Bluecow]

I'm virgin in opiods. And I have 900mg morphine normal release + 300mg midazolam. Will this be enough?
I also have a blank recipe for benzos and another for other oral opioids with me that I can use to have more in the cocktail...
(Here in Brasil metoclopramide is sold in drugs stores with no prescription at all with the name Plasil)
Suggestions? I was thinking about lorazepam that don't have firstpass metabolism in the liver with the other recipe... And maybe more oxycodone or methadone with the opioids recipe. What you think?
Oh... One time I took 1 pill of morphine 30mg normal release when I was planing to go bed about 23pm. 01am I woke up with rlly rlly much nausea. No meto was took that day. Was just an experiment. Maybe 20-30x the morphine's dose would make me vomit at all

 

[Throwaway9787]

Yeah that'd kill you I bet

 

[Bluecow]

Yeah that'd kill you I bet

Just with the morphine and mida? No need for more pills?

 

[allgood]

Potentially, midazolam has a rather fast elimination half life though it is exceptionally strong and commonly used in anaesthesia, and so it's probably quite suitable. 900mg morphine would probably be enough banged (be careful with this, banging morphine produces an insane histamine reaction) but oral I'm not so sure, oral bioavailability is lower than 20%. Taken orally you will also be feeling incredibly sick, I imagine it would make you vomit relatively fast, though maybe not fast enough to stop it. If you were to try it by mouth I think it would be worth allowing all the pills to dissolve in a suitable amount of luke-warm water, or some other solvent. Proper use of meto should resolve that though.

Methadone is a very strong opioid, and has a very high binding affinity to receptors, this generally stops methadone users getting high as it occupies the receptors something such as morphine would usually go for. I don't know if it would help or hinder in this case, I think oxy would be better depending on amount, despite taking methadone I don't know that much about it.

 

[Throwaway9787]

Potentially, midazolam has a rather fast elimination half life though it is exceptionally strong and commonly used in anaesthesia, and so it's probably quite suitable. 900mg morphine would probably be enough banged (be careful with this, banging morphine produces an insane histamine reaction) but oral I'm not so sure, oral bioavailability is lower than 20%. Taken orally you will also be feeling incredibly sick, I imagine it would make you vomit relatively fast, though maybe not fast enough to stop it. If you were to try it by mouth I think it would be worth allowing all the pills to dissolve in a suitable amount of luke-warm water, or some other solvent. Proper use of meto should resolve that though.

Methadone is a very strong opioid, and has a very high binding affinity to receptors, this generally stops methadone users getting high as it occupies the receptors something such as morphine would usually go for. I don't know if it would help or hinder in this case, I think oxy would be better depending on amount, despite taking methadone I don't know that much about it.

Methadone is good for euthanasia. One doctor recommends it.

 

[Bluecow]

Im thinking about getting the midazolam about 20-30 min before... And when starting feeling dizzy - take the morphine pills crashed with water. For a faster acting
Oxycodone don't have the firstpass metabolism as morphine? Maybe association of morphine and oxycodone would be better?

 

[allgood]

Methadone is good for euthanasia. One doctor recommends it.

I hear it is good alone, but I'm not sure how it would interact with the morphine, maybe not at all. Methadone given for pain tends to be given by itself but idk if anything can be inferred from that.

 

[Bluecow]

I'm a doctor in Brazil. I have access for many medications to take orally. But I don't work in intensive care, hospitals or trauma for IV medications.
Benzos or opioids like aren't a problem to reach anyways

 

[woxihuanni]

I'm a doctor in Brazil. I have access for many medications to take orally. But I don't work in intensive care, hospitals or trauma for IV medications.
Benzos or opioids like aren't a problem to reach anyways

If you're a doctor you probably know better than most of us...

 

[Bluecow]

If you're a doctor you probably know better than most of us...

Not a thing you really study in college. I know the mechanisms of action of the molecules... The antidote to use... But nothing makes me secure about OD/lethal doses. Maybe just more aprensive about someone being able to rescue me while sleeping. And it's not something u can talk with other doctors "ohh.. I'm thinking about overdosing. What u think is just enough?"
I'm sorry about the title "doctor" sounding like it is anything special. It doesnt come with a happy end anyways. One of the professions with more suicides...
Maybe I just try the doses I said before. And if it doesn't work, I will tell here in some days...
(Why not SN? Cause I have access for opiods and benzos. But scary of anything going wrong)

Sorry for my bad English.

 

[woxihuanni]

Not a thing you really study in college. I know the mechanisms of action of the molecules... The antidote to use... But nothing makes me secure about OD/lethal doses. Maybe just more aprensive about someone being able to rescue me while sleeping. And it's not something u can talk with other doctors "ohh.. I'm thinking about overdosing. What u think is just enough?"
I'm sorry about the title "doctor" sounding like it is anything special. It doesnt come with a happy end anyways. One of the professions with more suicides...
Maybe I just try the doses I said before. And if it doesn't work, I will tell here in some days...
(Why not SN? Cause I have access for opiods and benzos. But scary of anything going wrong)

Sorry for my bad English.

It's terrible how knowledge is withheld when we need a way out, of course you cannot ask...

No no, never took it as bragging or anything. Thank you for sharing your plan and I wish you peace.

 

[Trainwreck]

So when you hear about someone like Heath Ledger who accidentally died by taking a benzo and an opiate together, is this just a freak accident? Doctors and the media lead us to believe it's an automatic death sentence to combine even a small amount of the two together.

 

[CTB-London]

If you're a doctor you probably know better than most of us...

Getting strong pharmaceutical opioids without a prescription may be easy in Brazil but it's very difficult in W Europe.

 

[woxihuanni]

So when you hear about someone like Heath Ledger who accidentally died by taking a benzo and an opiate together, is this just a freak accident? Doctors and the media lead us to believe it's an automatic death sentence to combine even a small amount of the two together.

Pharmacology, like everything else, works by the law of cussedness. If you want to live, you will end up dying, if you want to die, you won't.

 

[gingerplum]

Not a thing you really study in college. I know the mechanisms of action of the molecules... The antidote to use... But nothing makes me secure about OD/lethal doses. Maybe just more aprensive about someone being able to rescue me while sleeping. And it's not something u can talk with other doctors "ohh.. I'm thinking about overdosing. What u think is just enough?"
I'm sorry about the title "doctor" sounding like it is anything special. It doesnt come with a happy end anyways. One of the professions with more suicides...
Maybe I just try the doses I said before. And if it doesn't work, I will tell here in some days...
(Why not SN? Cause I have access for opiods and benzos. But scary of anything going wrong)

Sorry for my bad English.

I'm a nurse. Generally, for individuals without a tolerance, as little as 200 mg of oral morphine is potentially lethal. You know what a standard dose of morphine is... 900 mg of instant release is a massive dose. 300 mg of Versed is also a huge dose... at least 30 times the highest recommended dose, right? I agree with @allgood that Oxy would probably be better to add than Methadone... all after the fasting and meto protocol.

Your English is great; sorry for whatever struggles have brought you here.

Potentially, midazolam has a rather fast elimination half life though it is exceptionally strong and commonly used in anaesthesia, and so it's probably quite suitable. 900mg morphine would probably be enough banged (be careful with this, banging morphine produces an insane histamine reaction) but oral I'm not so sure, oral bioavailability is lower than 20%. Taken orally you will also be feeling incredibly sick, I imagine it would make you vomit relatively fast, though maybe not fast enough to stop it. If you were to try it by mouth I think it would be worth allowing all the pills to dissolve in a suitable amount of luke-warm water, or some other solvent. Proper use of meto should resolve that though.

Methadone is a very strong opioid, and has a very high binding affinity to receptors, this generally stops methadone users getting high as it occupies the receptors something such as morphine would usually go for. I don't know if it would help or hinder in this case, I think oxy would be better depending on amount, despite taking methadone I don't know that much about it.

What do you mean by "banging" morphine? I swear I've never heard this before.

 

[allgood]

So when you hear about someone like Heath Ledger who accidentally died by taking a benzo and an opiate together, is this just a freak accident? Doctors and the media lead us to believe it's an automatic death sentence to combine even a small amount of the two together.

It's really just a game of chance, people tend to start dying when their tolerance is lower than they believe it to be though even with a significant tolerance mixing so many CNS depressants is still playing with death. A user could die simply because they chose/ended up sleeping on their back rather than side, and choke to death in the night.

I'm a nurse. Generally, for individuals without a tolerance, as little as 200 mg of oral morphine is potentially lethal. You know what a standard dose of morphine is... 900 mg of instant release is a massive dose. 300 mg of Versed is also a huge dose... at least 30 times the highest recommended dose, right? I agree with @allgood that Oxy would probably be better to add than Methadone... all after the fasting and meto protocol.

Your English is great; sorry for whatever struggles have brought you here.


What do you mean by "banging" morphine? I swear I've never heard this before.

I'm just referring to 'DIY' IV, I suppose it's probably not something you'd hear a as a nurse lol. I suppose it's not really possible here as it would take an insanely large syringe or a number of seperate injections, and the solution would be full of pill binder.

 

[A12803]

Hi
Can some please tell me what the meto protocol is
I havent heard this term before
Hope someone can help

Thanks

 

[No capacity]

Funny this, I had a gas leak last night. The mental health assessment team picked it up and called an engineer who switched off the gas.
Had I had any sense of smell I would have just turned the cooker on and lit a match

 

[Halo13]

Hi
Can some please tell me what the meto protocol is
I havent heard this term before
Hope someone can help

Thanks

Meto is short for Metoclopramide, a medication often used in a method referred to as SN (Sodium Nitrite). You can learn more about the protocol and method here:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/

and more here:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/