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Well to be fair we don't know shit about this dude and he could be legit. I'm sure there are members who lurk without wanting some deep involvement and then opt for some semblance of hand holding at the end. That doesn't sound so inconceivable to me. It's not like amount of posts = more reliable ctb. It's just that we're operating in the dark here, so we sort of appear inevitably naive any time we post well wishes, established member or not.
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Well to be fair we don't know shit about this dude and he could be legit. I'm sure there are members who lurk without wanting some deep involvement and then opt for some semblance of hand holding at the end. That doesn't sound so inconceivable to me. It's not like amount of posts = more reliable ctb. It's just that we're operating in the dark here, so we sort of appear inevitably naive any time we post well wishes, established member or not.
Agree with you, duck, I don't think it's naive to post well wishes, I think it's nice. I think it's really important to not blindly follow a method from the forum unless you've done lots of research.
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Agree with you, duck, I don't think it's naive to post well wishes, I think it's nice. I think it's really important to not blindly follow a method from the forum unless you've done lots of research.
I would recommend that anyone looking for information on the effects of SN should read @Eden2k experience, although she failed the first time she was successful in her second attempt. Her passing is confirmed by an obituary that has many comments, she also contacted me before leaving to say she wouldn't be posting any goodbye post on here.
Regarding the OP! Yes he could be genuine but we'll never know will we?
I would recommend that anyone looking for information on the effects of SN should read @Eden2k experience, although she failed the first time she was successful in her second attempt. Her passing is confirmed by an obituary that has many comments, she also contacted me before leaving to say she wouldn't be posting any goodbye post on here.
Regarding the OP! Yes he could be genuine but we'll never know will we?
I'm also a relatively quiet (and appreciative!) observer, so the lack of prior postings doesn't surprise me either. I can see myself posting details here when it is my turn, to give a little back to the group.
Harlope -- What happened with the exit bag method?
I had spent a month or so preparing it. I bought the tubing I needed, a tank of helium, and a whole load of duct tape for security reasons.
I heated up the end of the tube and connected it to the tank, and stuck the other end of the tube to the inside of the bag I used, which was elasticated. I placed the bag on my head and let it fill up with helium, before pulling it down over my head. It was painless, and I was going faint, but I just wouldn't pass out. I tried three more times in the same night but I must have done something wrong.
Now that I think about it, I really rushed it far too much. I didn't scrunch up the bag to get rid of the air in it, nor did I use a regulator. Also, like the OP of the megathread said, helium isn't that reliable these days, so that could've also been the issue. I'm probably going to try again since it wasn't painful at all, but I'll take even more time. I had tried to ctb four times in that one month and I wasn't in a state of mind where I could think clearly.
The problem with SN is there isn't much a foundation to base the symptoms on to begin with. Is it really all that painful? My pain level will be different than yours anyways. But if people are faking their deaths on here using SN, how do we really know? How do we really know that it isn't a painful way to ctb? From reading a few ctb after-maths, one would say that it is. But 2 days ago it wasn't. Who do we believe now? We will have to wait for more people who try this method out, if there are any more who will. But with all the speculation, one now thinks did they really ctb?
Whether or not this event was genuine, early posters in this thread seemed surprised and disappointed that SN appeared to be painful. Do people on this forum actually believe it's peaceful? Why would anyone assume that?
Whether or not this event was genuine, early posters in this thread seemed surprised and disappointed that SN appeared to be painful. Do people on this forum actually believe it's peaceful? Why would anyone assume that?
- anybody is aware of sb else using this DMSO substance with SN, except of Xerxes ? How can we know he did not feel nausea or possibly vomit before passing away ?
- as I understandd from reading his thread, this dSMO is suppose to speed it up ,but does not have antiemetic properties ,correct?
I had spent a month or so preparing it. I bought the tubing I needed, a tank of helium, and a whole load of duct tape for security reasons.
I heated up the end of the tube and connected it to the tank, and stuck the other end of the tube to the inside of the bag I used, which was elasticated. I placed the bag on my head and let it fill up with helium, before pulling it down over my head. It was painless, and I was going faint, but I just wouldn't pass out. I tried three more times in the same night but I must have done something wrong.
Now that I think about it, I really rushed it far too much. I didn't scrunch up the bag to get rid of the air in it, nor did I use a regulator. Also, like the OP of the megathread said, helium isn't that reliable these days, so that could've also been the issue. I'm probably going to try again since it wasn't painful at all, but I'll take even more time. I had tried to ctb four times in that one month and I wasn't in a state of mind where I could think clearly.
- anybody is aware of sb else using this DMSO substance with SN, except of Xerxes ? How can we know he did not feel nausea or possibly vomit before passing away ?
- as I understandd from reading his thread, this dSMO is suppose to speed it up ,but does not have antiemetic properties ,correct?
Xerxes did an experiment where he drank 5g of SN. He also put 10g on his skin, but that wouldn't have affected anything. He said he just felt dizzy and drunk until he passed out. Makes me think 10-15g, maybe even 5g, is the way to go with this. Can always drink more if the dose ends up being too low.
Xerxes did an experiment where he drank 5g of SN. He also put 10g on his skin, but that wouldn't have affected anything. He said he just felt dizzy and drunk until he passed out. Makes me think 10-15g, maybe even 5g, is the way to go with this. Can always drink more if the dose ends up being too low.
He probably thought a lot more of that 10g he put on his skin got absorbed than really did. Regardless of what he said, his experiment seemed to show otherwise. If a grown man could've gotten a peaceful death from 5g then why multiply that by 4x or more, especially when we know it can be really bad to take more? Keep the mix in a bottle and you can always take more if a small dose isn't enough. You can't un-take a large one and it sounds like a pretty bad way to go.
He probably thought a lot more of that 10g he put on his skin got absorbed than really did. Regardless of what he said, his experiment seemed to show otherwise. If a grown man could've gotten a peaceful death from 5g then why multiply that by 4x or more, especially when we know it can be really bad to take more? Keep the mix in a bottle and you can always take more if a small dose isn't enough. You can't un-take a large one and it sounds like a pretty bad way to go.
I'm talking about his experiment thread. I don't know what became of him after he said the SN 20g take real attempt more than else. I don't remember where I read about the G amount but I read it a bunch of times. I thjnk PPeH or something also said that
I'm talking about his experiment thread. I don't know what became of him after he said the SN 20g take real attempt more than else. I don't remember where I read about the G amount but I read it a bunch of times. I thjnk PPeH or something also said that
"I measured roughly 2 teaspoons for 10grams of SN. No antacids, no antiemetics were used. Definitely no water. Didn't feel any effect of vomiting whatsoever. Shouldn't inject it. Not sure on those effects'
. Already ingested doses of 1 g can cause lethal intoxication. In the presented case the initial methemoglobinemia after ingestion of 25 g of sodium nitrate was efficaciously treated by a high-dose antidote treatment with toluidin blue in addition to a continuous hemodialysis and a partial exchange - transfusion. The patient died 6 days after admission as a consequence of secondary pulmonary complications. The presented case outlines the high toxicity of sodium nitrate. In a poisoning with this substance urgent diagnosis and intensive care treatment is essential. The brown color of blood in a cardiopulmonary not explained cyanosis may raise the suspicion of methemoglobinemia.
Most of these "it sounds painful" comments are about attempts where the person did not follow established instructions, e.g. skipping antiemetics, using random or inadequate amounts of SN, etc.
Although the person in this thread apparently did use antiemetics, but they didn't measure the SN.
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DMSO is not toxic. It shouldn't harm the body. I think it should not affect in a bad way. The combination could be to hasten the absorption.
But take my opinion with a grain of salt. I don't know really.
As I said, I don't care what he recommended, I never said I did, and I already repeated that that's not what I said. I haven't said anything about what he recommended this entire time, just what he drank. I've said that already and that's why I'm not responding. I don't care what he recommended and see no point talking about it.
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