Darkover

Darkover

Angelic
Jul 29, 2021
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it isn't what you make of life its the hand you've been dealt that makes life
you just have to play the hand you've been dealt but if life is to terrible one can always decided not to play the hand they've been dealt
by killing ones self, born poor, disabled, deformed, retarded, tough luck on you, you was dealt a bad hand but nobody should be forced to play hand they don't want to play, if life was turly what you make of it then nobody would be born into a bad hand because nobody would make a bad hand for them selfs only our parents do that they decided your hand from birth

i was dealt a bad hand in life and decided not to play it at 18 but still alive at 37
 
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niki wonoto

Student
Oct 10, 2019
109
exactly.

Most people downplay the 'luck' factor so much. But it's not surprising. People just like to take control, and they fear the unknown. It also probably has to do with the 'ego' thing which is innate in human nature. They want to think that they're in control of their lives. But in reality, there are a lot of factors that also plays in life. It's naive & ignorant to think that life is what you make of it. Even those 'successful' people won't admit this, because they want to think that they succeed because of their own hard works, efforts, smart, talents, etc etc etc. Or they're simply just oblivious to all the "X factors" that catapult them to success in life.
 
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Darkover

Angelic
Jul 29, 2021
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exactly it's all just down to luck and random chance being born in the right place at the right time and having everything go smothly in life, i've always thought those that have the most success were just lucky in life, but i think far to many get bad hands in this terrible world
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I think some people do actually make it in life despite utterly horrific odds. I suppose though- their hand in life included either genes, upbringing- or a combination of the two that included relentless optimism and determination. I do wonder if those things can be acquired if you 'naturally' don't have them. I suspect it's much more of a struggle.

I'd say I had a mixed hand really from childhood- some REALLY shitty stuff- plenty of bereavement and growing up with a (suspected) Narcissist. Still- I also had very loving family members too and thankfully- not many serious health complaints until a few years back. I'd say I was a 'natural' pessimist but I do have determination. If I actually can find something I want- I'll try super hard to get it. I think that's a major factor really but again- it probably (sadly) is determined by chance factors- maybe genetics and upbringing. I'm sorry for your bad lot in life. I agree- it isn't fair.
 
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WorthlessCoward

Specialist
Mar 21, 2023
301
I made shit out of it but others contributed a lot. A LOT.
 
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niki wonoto

Student
Oct 10, 2019
109
I think some people do actually make it in life despite utterly horrific odds. I suppose though- their hand in life included either genes, upbringing- or a combination of the two that included relentless optimism and determination. I do wonder if those things can be acquired if you 'naturally' don't have them. I suspect it's much more of a struggle.

I'd say I had a mixed hand really from childhood- some REALLY shitty stuff- plenty of bereavement and growing up with a (suspected) Narcissist. Still- I also had very loving family members too and thankfully- not many serious health complaints until a few years back. I'd say I was a 'natural' pessimist but I do have determination. If I actually can find something I want- I'll try super hard to get it. I think that's a major factor really but again- it probably (sadly) is determined by chance factors- maybe genetics and upbringing. I'm sorry for your bad lot in life. I agree- it isn't fair.

I can somewhat relate with what you've said, especially regarding the family & parents thing, particularly the narcissist part (which sadly I also suspect my father could probably be one), but yeah, even I actually do admit that my family used to be a happy & harmonious one back when I was a young little kid/child. I admit that I came from quite a privileged (or even 'spoiled') family & economic background (middle to upper class back then, before the whole financial crisis & difficulties situation now).

My point is that nothing is certain 100% in life. If back then anyone told me that my life would become sadly pathetic & pointless like this, then I would not believe it. That's how fragile life is (or as I would always like to call it: that's reality). Anything could happen that could turn life upside down.

And yes, even I admit that I'm also the one responsible for destroying my own life. If only I could turn back time.. but it's probably already too late now at my age.. which is depressing..

So yeah, hard work & determination is good, but I think it's still not important enough especially to succeed (success) in life. Work smart is also important (or I would rather use the word 'clever' full of tricks, which is unfortunately how the world & society works). And then there are also "X factors" (sometimes even complex/complicated factors that people don't realize), including the 'luck' factor.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,878
I could personally never wish to exist in this hellish world where chance so cruelly determines everything, it's true that we have limited control over our existence as humans have the potential to suffer so much all through no fault of their own, to me never existing at all will always be the best outcome as I see no value in existing in this uncertain and unpredictable world where all through chance and random factors someone can end up experiencing the most extreme pain. Life is just worthless and unnecessary suffering, it disgusts me how there is a lack of acceptance towards the right to die.
 
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Dead Ghost

Mestre del Temps
May 6, 2022
1,345
If someone were truly responsible for their whole life, it would mean that the lives of others would be governed by theirs... no one is responsible for anything, neither the good nor the bad. No being in this universe, whether he has lived, is alive or has yet to be born, is responsible for how he is or for the lives of others.

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Si algú fos de veritat responsable de tota la seva vida voldría dir que la vida dels demés es regiría per la seva... ningú és responsable de res, ni del que és bó ni del dolent. Cap ésser d'aquest univers, hagi viscut, sigui viu o hagi encara de nèixer és responsable de com és ni de la vida dels demés.
 
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Soulless Angel

Did someone say Rum?
Jul 6, 2020
1,272
lifes what you make of it
I loathe this saying and everything it stands for, no matter how much I try and make my life take a different route, I get slammed back down and reminded I am not allowed better, as people refuse too accept a positive change, or my past is brought back up slapping me hard in the face, and if I state that the past isn't me, then I get told but its made you you... I am sorry I am trying to be a better person.... but constantly likened to shit, then no matter how I try and make life, it never gets better, ever... I never saw myself getting to the age I am now, and damn I wish I hadn't, I don't wish to spend the rest of my life in misery, but that is all I am destined to have no matter how I hard I try and make life how I want it to be
 
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