Venting Life as a shot man

[LoNatural]

As a 5'7 guy I'm always the shortest guy around. I have no problems getting respect from other men but getting romantic interest from women is a whole different story.
Unattractive guys in general are expected to work hard to "conquest a girl's heart" which is basically to be a provider. It doesn't matter if you provide attention, emotional support, money... We are expected to accept our genetic defeat and to chase female validation as a coping mechanism. Natural selection is trying to get rid of us, not before we have a useful working life following the interests of our tribe.

And it won't get any better. As men we are disposable and won't ever have a political movement that pretends to care about our problems like feminism. As I've said the only solution mainstream culture will give us is to slave away our lives, be "nice guys" and to support women without expecting absolutely anything in return aside from some empty virtue signaling comments.

Killing myself would be the perfect rebellious act, not only to escape the terrible fate of wageslaving but also to free myself from the burden of being a genetic dead end.

My only hope is to induce an egoic death using psychodelics do detach myself from this issue and to hire escorts as a coping mechanism. Can't wait for my parents to finally die to be free to ctb.

 

[Shamana]

Move to Asia.

 

[TAW122]

I'm not really that tall, even by Western standards, as I'm a 5' 11" (maybe half an inch shorter depending on how it is measured) Asian American male. I suffer from social anxiety, Aspergers, and of course my race being an big factor on dating so my romance prospects are shot pretty much (unless I decide to be someone that I'm not, tryharding in areas I don't care much about (athleticism, bodybuilding, getting super rich, etc.) and going through hell for what is worth so little. Personally, while I don't care about getting into a relationship, I only want to lose my virginity (to fulfill my curiosity of sexual intercourse - physically that is.) which is why I have planned on paying (direct money) to get laid in places where it is legal to do so. Yeah, I can relate somewhat to your situation even though it is not quite the same, but we do share similar characteristics in this situation. I don't think your reason is bad at all, it is a perfectly, logical and valid reason to have.

I don't foresee myself living to old age especially given how society is in it's current state, and the coming problems that we face. Also my parents are aging, they are in their 60's so I figured about another 20-25 years, they'll be gone naturally, if not sooner (depending on their health in the coming years).

 

[LaBrava]

As a 5'7 guy I'm always the shortest guy around. I have no problems getting respect from other men but getting romantic interest from women is a whole different story.
Unattractive guys in general are expected to work hard to "conquest a girl's heart" which is basically to be a provider. It doesn't matter if you provide attention, emotional support, money... We are expected to accept our genetic defeat and to chase female validation as a coping mechanism. Natural selection is trying to get rid of us, not before we have a useful working life following the interests of our tribe.

And it won't get any better. As men we are disposable and won't ever have a political movement that pretends to care about our problems like feminism. As I've said the only solution mainstream culture will give us is to slave away our lives, be "nice guys" and to support women without expecting absolutely anything in return aside from some empty virtue signaling comments.

Killing myself would be the perfect rebellious act, not only to escape the terrible fate of wageslaving but also to free myself from the burden of being a genetic dead end.

My only hope is to induce an egoic death using psychodelics do detach myself from this issue and to hire escorts as a coping mechanism. Can't wait for my parents to finally die to be free to ctb.

I'm 5'5', feel exactly the same. I'm so old now that I've long since left any interest in love and relationships behind, but it was tough in the days when I was still trying. Even now I still have to deal with the low level disrespect you can experience from others as a short man -you're always a second class citizen. Not the main reason I'm CTB, but it certainly plays a part.

 

[marcusuk63]

https://www.ranker.com/list/best-short-actors/celeb-stalker

 

[LoNatural]

I'm not really that tall, even by Western standards, as I'm a 5' 11" (maybe half an inch shorter depending on how it is measured) Asian American male. I suffer from social anxiety, Aspergers, and of course my race being an big factor on dating so my romance prospects are shot pretty much (unless I decide to be someone that I'm not, tryharding in areas I don't care much about (athleticism, bodybuilding, getting super rich, etc.) and going through hell for what is worth so little. Personally, while I don't care about getting into a relationship, I only want to lose my virginity (to fulfill my curiosity of sexual intercourse - physically that is.) which is why I have planned on paying (direct money) to get laid in places where it is legal to do so. Yeah, I can relate somewhat to your situation even though it is not quite the same, but we do share similar characteristics in this situation. I don't think your reason is bad at all, it is a perfectly, logical and valid reason to have.

I don't foresee myself living to old age especially given how society is in it's current state, and the coming problems that we face. Also my parents are aging, they are in their 60's so I figured about another 20-25 years, they'll be gone naturally, if not sooner (depending on their health in the coming years).

You aren't short bro, if I were you i'd give South east Asia or South America a chance!

https://www.ranker.com/list/best-short-actors/celeb-stalker

powermanlets were a great inspiration for me ngl, specially Putin, the king of manlets

I'm 5'5', feel exactly the same. I'm so old now that I've long since left any interest in love and relationships behind, but it was tough in the days when I was still trying. Even now I still have to deal with the low level disrespect you can experience from others as a short man -you're always a second class citizen. Not the main reason I'm CTB, but it certainly plays a part.

Don't ever give up your self worth away for being short, don't let others treat you like that. We can control how other males treat us!

 

[not_a_robot]

As a 5'7 guy I'm always the shortest guy around. I have no problems getting respect from other men but getting romantic interest from women is a whole different story.
Unattractive guys in general are expected to work hard to "conquest a girl's heart" which is basically to be a provider. It doesn't matter if you provide attention, emotional support, money... We are expected to accept our genetic defeat and to chase female validation as a coping mechanism. Natural selection is trying to get rid of us, not before we have a useful working life following the interests of our tribe.

And it won't get any better. As men we are disposable and won't ever have a political movement that pretends to care about our problems like feminism. As I've said the only solution mainstream culture will give us is to slave away our lives, be "nice guys" and to support women without expecting absolutely anything in return aside from some empty virtue signaling comments.

Killing myself would be the perfect rebellious act, not only to escape the terrible fate of wageslaving but also to free myself from the burden of being a genetic dead end.

My only hope is to induce an egoic death using psychodelics do detach myself from this issue and to hire escorts as a coping mechanism. Can't wait for my parents to finally die to be free to ctb.

Wow you really think society expects a lot from you. Isn't it your choice whether or not to participate? You have free will.

I'm not really that tall, even by Western standards, as I'm a 5' 11" (maybe half an inch shorter depending on how it is measured) Asian American male. I suffer from social anxiety, Aspergers, and of course my race being an big factor on dating so my romance prospects are shot pretty much (unless I decide to be someone that I'm not, tryharding in areas I don't care much about (athleticism, bodybuilding, getting super rich, etc.) and going through hell for what is worth so little. Personally, while I don't care about getting into a relationship, I only want to lose my virginity (to fulfill my curiosity of sexual intercourse - physically that is.) which is why I have planned on paying (direct money) to get laid in places where it is legal to do so. Yeah, I can relate somewhat to your situation even though it is not quite the same, but we do share similar characteristics in this situation. I don't think your reason is bad at all, it is a perfectly, logical and valid reason to have.

I don't foresee myself living to old age especially given how society is in it's current state, and the coming problems that we face. Also my parents are aging, they are in their 60's so I figured about another 20-25 years, they'll be gone naturally, if not sooner (depending on their health in the coming years).

I am sorry you guys feel women don't want you for such a superficial reason. For what it's worth,I think asian guys and short guys are often very attractive. It feels good when I hug a guy the same height as me, I'm not looking for a dad ffs.
But as a female, I do not deserve a mate because I am not a perfect 10, so it doesn't matter what I find attractive..
So I guess we should all just ctb.

 

[marcusuk63]

I'm the runt of the litter 1 of 6 . 5`7" too and have been 9 stone / 126 lbs for decades but its never bothered me and never held me back with women , men or work .

 

[Sancti]

I think this post kind of escalated quickly. First, my husband is 5'2 and his height has never bothered me. In fact, I never thought about his height until he brought it up. You're at 5'7, which isn't even short. I really don't think it's that hard to find love when there's so many dating apps like Tinder, Okay Cupid, Plenty of Fish and so much more. The entire section about women, I'd like to respectfully and gracefully not really respond to. However, I would like to agree with not_a_robot and say that I'm sorry that you feel that women are that superficial.

 

[Severen]

I have some theories when it comes to why women don't like short men and prefer the tallest men. But those theories are also contradicted by facts. Facts I learned from studying various texts. And facts I learned personally in life from observation. I've encountered some women who don't even like men of average height like me because I'm not tall to the point of being a freak of nature. I say freak of nature because men over my height have never existed until recently. But then I encountered women who like men of average height. I also encountered women who like short men and women who like short men who are borderline midgets. So I really have no idea, WTF is going on. I'm not the type to jump to conclusions. Perhaps it is dependent on the culture, a woman is raised in? Whenever I encounter something in this world that is not clear to me, I start to suspect social engineering. Anyway, OP. You are jumping to too many conclusions, that have not been proven to be entirely true. If all you care about is getting validation from women...you shouldn't write yourself off so quickly. And it makes no sense to care about validation from women anyway because you should be getting validation from yourself. And what is so important about passing on your DNA anyway? Do you get extra privileges in the after life if you do so? Do you enjoy changing diapers with piss and shit in them and/or paying child support or working your ass off to raise a kid or two or three? Kids are expensive. Maybe those things will make you happy. But personally, I'd rather just try to have as much fun possible instead of trying to pass on my DNA. In fact, I don't even think, humanity deserves my DNA and it would also be a middle finger to my father and his father to not pass it on. I've decided to withhold it out of spite. Unfortunately, my sister might pass it on but even then, I will have one small victory. I'd also make a terrible father because I'm no family man. I'm more of the warrior/adventurer type and see the average father/husband lifestyle as a high level prison lifestyle for me.

 

[Orin]

it makes no sense to care about validation from women anyway because you should be getting validation from yourself

This.

 

[Severen]

Natural selection is trying to get rid of us, not before we have a useful working life following the interests of our tribe.

Why? The Romans were around your height while all their "neighbors" in the North in Germania were around 5'11'' and 6' and the Romans almost enslaved and/or killed all of them... The only reason the Germanic tribes took over what is modern day, France, Italy, Spain and England is because the Romans shot themselves in the foot, basically and their Empire partially collapsed. Do you think the ancient Greeks were tall? Maybe a lot of women don't like short men in the Western world because most women in the Western world are the descendants of people from Scandinavia and Germania? Because the Romans became extinct because they made one mistake or two and the Celts screwed themselves over constantly and now only exist in like 2 or 3 small parts of the world. Maybe a long time ago in Scandinavia and/or in Germania, being tall gave men an advantage. Like being able to move through thick snow better or some shit. Maybe short guys in Scandinavia got stuck in the snow therefore made terrible hunters. The winters there are brutal. LOL Almost everything about this world is retarded. Evolution is retarded. It's goal is to create people who are like bunnies... Fuck this world and fuck what people are attracted to... It's all fucking retarded. You could be a god among men and never get to pass on your DNA due to some stupid reason. Like your nose being too big and long. OR your skin being green. OR because you are too intimidating to human beings. You know what I'm saying? We live in an absurd universe.

 

[marcusuk63]

There is a bad side to being short according to research short people live longer and have less chance of all forms of coronary disease ..... not good for most of us on here

 

[Severen]

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought the OP was going to talk about life as man who was recently shot by a firearm.

There is a bad side to being short according to research short people live longer and have less chance of all forms of coronary disease ..... not good for most of us on here

Yes. Less strain on the internal organs = longer life. Having a taller, therefore bigger body doesn't mean your internal organs compensate for this. Being taller doesn't mean, having a stronger and more durable heart for pumping blood for example.

 

[marcusuk63]

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought the OP was going to talk about life as man who was recently shot by a firearm.

Yes. Less strain on the internal organs = longer life. Having a taller, therefore bigger body doesn't mean your internal organs compensate for this. Being taller doesn't mean, having a stronger and more durable heart for pumping blood for example.

I was a market gardener when i 1st left school and they were Dutch , they are like giants , the bosses son was 6`8" !

 

[Severen]

I was a market gardener when i 1st left school and they were Dutch , they are like giants , the bosses son was 6`8" !

Probably a byproduct of the growth hormones in the food they like to eat. A lot of food today are unnatural, man made products so people can make more $$$ as quickly as possible. It's been this way for a long time, now. If you own a farm, you want animals to get as big as possible, mature as quickly as possible so you can make as much money as possible as quickly as possible etc...

 

[omoidarui]

5' 7'' isn't even short, slightly below average

 

[Severen]

5' 7'' isn't even short, slightly below average

In some parts of the world, being less than 6'5'' = short.

 

[omoidarui]

 

[Severen]

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I'm talking about what people think. Not facts related to the world.

 

[marcusuk63]

Probably a byproduct of the growth hormones in the food they like to eat. A lot of food today are unnatural, man made products so people can make more $$$ as quickly as possible. It's been this way for a long time, now. If you own a farm, you want animals to get as big as possible, mature as quickly as possible so you can make as much money as possible as quickly as possible etc...

I know we were ultra high tech for the time 1979 when i started there and we didn't grow in soil , we had huge vats of 10 different chemicals we drip fed the cucumbers

 

[Severen]

I know we were ultra high tech for the time 1979 when i started there and we didn't grow in soil , we had huge vats of 10 different chemicals we drip fed the cucumbers

I think certain foods naturally have shit in it that affects people's bodies in unhealthy ways too. Just because something is natural and tastes good doesn't mean, humans should be eating it.

 

[omoidarui]

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought the OP was going to talk about life as man who was recently shot by a firearm.

in all honesty i thought it would be about a previous suicide attempt

 

[marcusuk63]

in all honesty i thought it would be about a previous suicide attempt

me too

 

[Superfluous]

I thought it was about whiskey.

I know we were ultra high tech for the time 1979 when i started there and we didn't grow in soil , we had huge vats of 10 different chemicals we drip fed the cucumbers

Don't talk about the cucumbers.

 

[snowman626]

Any men here ever called "creepy" by women?

 

[Jen0804]

5"7 isn't bad at all to me.
I'm 5"3 and my partner is 5"2.

- perfect hugging height as someone else said!!

 

[Sancti]

Any men here ever called "creepy" by women?

Is there any context to this?

 

[snowman626]

Is there any context to this?

short men tend to be viewed as "creepy" by women from what ive read online, unless they're good looking and famous like tom cruise

 

[not_a_robot]

me too

I thought it was the UK pronunciation of short, without a hard "R".
like how "arsehole" is "asshole".