I regret reaching out in online support communities because all I got was judgement and bullying

[FireFox]

Online support communities whether it is on discord or reddit like to pride themselves as supportive and inclusive but all I ever got was judgement and exclusion especially from other women. I feel like these communities exist for people to show off how good their lives are and put others down for not achieving the same success.

A coupe of months ago I left a digital detox discord group that promotes wellness because some of the members were just judgmental people who blamed me for ALL my own problems of being single already knowing I was depressed and suicidal due to a lifetime of male rejection and being humiliated by men.

● One woman let's call her A - She said I need to "put myself out there". I already explained I have the natural confidence to talk to people but all my life guys ignored me and dont want to know me. She responded saying "use dating apps". I explained I don't feel comfortable using dating apps because me being a black woman growing up my whole life I have experienced never being seen as pretty while racial groups got desired even men of my own race harassed me and abused me while they were always nicer to the white women and girls. I read dating apps have a very low succes rate for black women I don't want to go through a competition I won't win. She is a white woman, she doesn't get how hard it is for black women to find love due to society and men attracted to eurocentric standards of beauty.

She proceeds to criticise me for my poor "attitude" and how its my fault I am single. She went on about her experiences of not being attractive and having a facial swelling deformity and how she met her husband on a dating app. Not everyone is lucky as she is

● Another woman let's call her B- she talked about her experiences of male rejection and how she "never let it get to her". She says she has husband now and how" I need to put myself out there". This same woman went on about the city we both live in having free therapy and how I am not trying. These free therapies and low cost options have restrictions which i dont meet criteria for. I have had issues navatigating healthcare in this country I am not going through it again.

● Another user let's call him C- He said how I need to go gym, "put myself out there" and wear make up. I don't need gym I slim build already and I am very feminine in how I dress. He kept acting as if it was easy for a woman to find a man.

Woman A said "there is a reason why you struggle to make friends". Just because they were lucky to find partners and achieve recovery doesn't mean it will happen for everyone else. Life doesn't give us what we want.Others even blamed me for struggling to acess therapy and making "excuses"

 

[kwittywhiskerzz!..]

I feel sorry for you. These people blame you for something you never wanted? Shame on them! I wish you well, working on yourself and making yourself happy first is always a great starting point. You deserve love and happiness!

 

[Suicidebydeath]

I'm sorry for your suffering, I wish people in online support communities treated you better. You've been treated not at all in the way you deserve. You deserve kindness and more.

 

[kwittywhiskerzz!..]

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

I'm sorry you've encountered this, most people are uncomfortable with the idea of involuntarily celibate women and don't know how to respond when faced with the reality that we exist.

Do you know about the ForeverAloneWomen forum on reddit? I've found it to be a very understanding place, and I know there are several other black women on there who can relate to your experience. You might find some consolation there, as I have.

 

[Yazzerton]

Online support communities whether it is on discord or reddit like to pride themselves as supportive and inclusive but all I ever got was judgement and exclusion especially from other women. I feel like these communities exist for people to show off how good their lives are and put others down for not achieving the same success.

A coupe of months ago I left a digital detox discord group that promotes wellness because some of the members were just judgmental people who blamed me for ALL my own problems of being single already knowing I was depressed and suicidal due to a lifetime of male rejection and being humiliated by men.

● One woman let's call her A - She said I need to "put myself out there". I already explained I have the natural confidence to talk to people but all my life guys ignored me and dont want to know me. She responded saying "use dating apps". I explained I don't feel comfortable using dating apps because me being a black woman growing up my whole life I have experienced never being seen as pretty while racial groups got desired even men of my own race harassed me and abused me while they were always nicer to the white women and girls. I read dating apps have a very low succes rate for black women I don't want to go through a competition I won't win. She is a white woman, she doesn't get how hard it is for black women to find love due to society and men attracted to eurocentric standards of beauty.

She proceeds to criticise me for my poor "attitude" and how its my fault I am single. She went on about her experiences of not being attractive and having a facial swelling deformity and how she met her husband on a dating app. Not everyone is lucky as she is

● Another woman let's call her B- she talked about her experiences of male rejection and how she "never let it get to her". She says she has husband now and how" I need to put myself out there". This same woman went on about the city we both live in having free therapy and how I am not trying. These free therapies and low cost options have restrictions which i dont meet criteria for. I have had issues navatigating healthcare in this country I am not going through it again.

● Another user let's call him C- He said how I need to go gym, "put myself out there" and wear make up. I don't need gym I slim build already and I am very feminine in how I dress. He kept acting as if it was easy for a woman to find a man.

Woman A said "there is a reason why you struggle to make friends". Just because they were lucky to find partners and achieve recovery doesn't mean it will happen for everyone else. Life doesn't give us what we want.Others even blamed me for struggling to acess therapy and making "excuses"

I'm really sorry you had to go through that. Having the people that are supposed to support you be judgmental can be really disheartening. I hope that you find some others that can see you for you and support you though your struggles :)

 

[FireFox]

I'm sorry you've encountered this, most people are uncomfortable with the idea of involuntarily celibate women and don't know how to respond when faced with the reality that we exist.

Do you know about the ForeverAloneWomen forum on reddit? I've found it to be a very understanding place, and I know there are several other black women on there who can relate to your experience. You might find some consolation there, as I have.

@Alexei_Kirillov I did use that sub but then I was driven out by the moderator who never liked me and later on banned permanently.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

@Alexei_Kirillov I did use that sub but then I was driven out by the moderator who never liked me.

I'm sorry to hear that.

 

[Labyrinth]

Online support community is the substrate of garbage manure. You (Sasu) are my family and my friends.

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

You are at the right place now. Everyone on this forum seems tuned into reality. No magic wand-waving around here.

 

[Throwawayacc3]

@Alexei_Kirillov I did use that sub but then I was driven out by the moderator who never liked me and later on banned permanently.

You need to be so careful with those platforms. Discord is a place for a lot of normies. I nearly got banned in the Linkin Park discord because I was sticking up for someone who I knew was having a really bad time (we were messaging). Power hungry admins.

Reddit is even worse - because of the like system if you say anything slightly against the masses you'll be downvoted and cast out from the platform (literally).

My thoughts are this forum is the only place you can talk about things. Messaging someone one on one in discord is an exception but the "public" stuff is for shallow things.

 

[FireFox]

You are at the right place now. Everyone on this forum seems tuned into reality. No magic wand-waving around here.

@MatrixPrisoner At least people here are actaully real and honest about thier opinions and perceptives on things. Nobody here pretends whereas people on Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, discord and social media platforms generally want to show off how "right" they are about things and how their "way" and if anyone else doesn't follow thier way that person gets blamed and treated awfully.

Orginally social media was designed to connect people from all corners of the world together but all it did was bring together ALL the self righteous arseholes, the egotists, moral crusaders, the complict bystanders who want to fit in and just the worst of society.

Social media today is just one big circle jerk where people just to show off how great their lives are and to make themselves feel better they put other people down and imposing their beliefs on others and hounding those who disagree to the point of getting them cancelled or driving them to suicide as the bullying becomes too much for some.

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

@MatrixPrisoner At least people here are actaully real and honest about thier opinions and perceptives on things. Nobody here pretends whereas people on Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, discord and social media platforms generally want to show off how "right" they are about things and how their "way" and if anyone else doesn't follow thier way that person gets blamed and treated awfully.

Orginally social media was designed to connect people from all corners of the world together but all it did was bring together ALL the self righteous arseholes, the egotists, moral crusaders, the complict bystanders who want to fit in and just the worst of society.

Social media today is just one big circle jerk where people just to show off how great their lives are and to make themselves feel better they put other people down and imposing their beliefs on others and hounding those who disagree to the point of getting them cancelled or driving them to suicide as the bullying becomes too much for some.

Indeed. You rarely see 2 people go at each other's throats here. And we obviously have nothing to flex or show off to each other. We're the probably the most normal people online, but the rest of the internet would never know that, or even bother to look closely enough to see this.

 

[FireFox]

You need to be so careful with those platforms. Discord is a place for a lot of normies. I nearly got banned in the Linkin Park discord because I was sticking up for someone who I knew was having a really bad time (we were messaging). Power hungry admins.

Reddit is even worse - because of the like system if you say anything slightly against the masses you'll be downvoted and cast out from the platform (literally).

My thoughts are this forum is the only place you can talk about things. Messaging someone one on one in discord is an exception but the "public" stuff is for shallow things.

@Throwawayacc3

I love LinkedIn Park and I am still upset over Chesters suicide. I still listen to Linkin Park my favourites are numb and What I have done.

I have finally noticed that social media has given people especially the people who have absolutely nothing great happening in their lives way too much power to abuse and terrorise others and an inflated ego the size of a cruise ship. The likes along with the mob mentality gives people a false sense of importance and popularity this is way online bullying and harassment, online gossip and true crime web sleuthing thrives so much.

People blame social media for society's problems but actaully social media has just exposed how bad society actually is and people too. If people wanted to use social media for a total force for good only they would have wanted too but far too many use it for selfish and depraved reasons of bullying, humiliating others because socal media annoymimy gives them the true power to be themselves in a way they wouldn't dare in real life.

What annoys me is the media criticise Sanctioned Suicide for being "dangerous" and "bad" out of all the online communities this is the only one where I am actaully listened too a treated with respect and people have tried to help me with my problems while other people reddit and discord in their so called support spaces treated me awfully with no respect, gone through my post history to shame me and even assign blame for my own problems.

The same women and men who judged me in the digtal detox wellness community where also demanding Sanctioned Suicide be shut down and even called the site evil.

These sanctimonious self righteous arsehole want the world to believe Sanctioned Suicide and other suicide forums are to blame. Yep according to these people its all Sanctioned Suicide fault but Never themselves, never the unfair status quo they comform and participating in a system where mentally ill people are judged, treated like lepers and excluded from family and friends and wider society.

Indeed. You rarely see 2 people go at each other's throats here. And we obviously have nothing to flex or show off to each other. We're the probably the most normal people online, but the rest of the internet would never know that, or even bother to look closely enough to see this.

@MatrixPrisoner The same women and men who judged me in the digtal detox wellness community where also demanding Sanctioned Suicide be shut down and even called the site "evil" and demanded the moderators even be jailed.

These sanctimonious self righteous arseholes want the world to believe Sanctioned Suicide and other suicide forums are to blame. Yep according to these people its all Sanctioned Suicide fault but Never themselves, never the unfair status quo they comform and participating in a system where mentally ill people are judged, treated like lepers and excluded from family and friends and wider society. These arseholes can not see they are part of the problem regarding suicide.

Suicide and Society is connected but these sanctimonious people are too arrogant, self centred and egotistical too comprehend that.

 

[Throwawayacc3]

@Throwawayacc3 What annoys me is the media criticise Sanctioned Suicide for being "dangerous" and "bad" out of all the online communities this is the only one where I am actaully listened too a treated with respect and people have tried to help me with my problems while other people reddit and discord in their so called support spaces treated me awfully with no respect, gone through my post history to shame me and even assign blame for my own problems.

The same women and men who judged me in the digtal detox wellness community where also demanding Sanctioned Suicide be shut down and even called the site evil.

These sanctimonious self righteous arsehole want the world to believe Sanctioned Suicide and other suicide forums are to blame. Yep according to these people its all Sanctioned Suicide fault but Never themselves, never the unfair status quo they comform and participating in a system where mentally ill people are judged, treated like lepers and excluded from family and friends and wider society.

I love LinkedIn Park and I am still upset over Chesters suicide. I still listen to Linkin Park my favourites are numb and What I have done.

@MatrixPrisoner The same women and men who judged me in the digtal detox wellness community where also demanding Sanctioned Suicide be shut down and even called the site "evil" and demanded the moderators even be jailed.

These sanctimonious self righteous arseholes want the world to believe Sanctioned Suicide and other suicide forums are to blame. Yep according to these people its all Sanctioned Suicide fault but Never themselves, never the unfair status quo they comform and participating in a system where mentally ill people are judged, treated like lepers and excluded from family and friends and wider society. These arseholes can not see they are part of the problem regarding suicide.

Suicide and Society is connected but these sanctimonious people are too arrogant, self centred and egotistical too comprehend that.

Media is bought and only for vested interests. It can't be trusted. If you obey it and conform you won't be targeted. If you steer even slightly away for the narrative expect to lose people in your circle if you have one.
This is especially true in social circles where if a family gets into the "big leagues" they will parrot opinions and not tow the line due to being looked down upon by said group.

Digital detox community lol - I can only imagine the type of characters within that circle. Its
Normies. And with normies you can't discuss even if this stuff, anything negative, nothing about slaving away for a mortgage that will
Keep getting worse, etc. It'll just bring risk onto you as some might even report you - the UK has some extreme laws currently - you can be locked up for saying naughty things online.

Listen to LP everyday. My escapism.

 

[FireFox]

I feel sorry for you. These people blame you for something you never wanted? Shame on them! I wish you well, working on yourself and making yourself happy first is always a great starting point. You deserve love and happiness!

@kwittywhiskerzz!.. Relationships and finding love are very unpredictable. There are plenty of examples of long term couples who were together since secondary school and then later on divorcing in their 30s or 40s or older age. There are also people who find love a bit later on in life and then they are people who never experience love.

The pornography culture along with the hook up culture have given men and some women too unrealistic standards of what they want in a partner. Most of the women models in pornography have had plastic surgery procedures giving their bodies a modified flawless look along with good expensive professional supermodel make up you can't buy in supermarkets etc. Not all men have a six pack as it takes dedication and some men who do have muscles are known to abuse steroids to get quick fix results. There is a reason why plastic surgery is on the rise amoungst young adults in their 20s and 30s.

We have become so obessed with looks it unfortunately does effect dating and whether or not guys notice you.

Most men ( NOT ALL) want a supermodel looking girlfriend and believe they are entilted to such a women while women ( NOT ALL) today do want a superhero romantic boyfriend of some kind. Unfortunately that show so many examples of couples travelling together and doing fun stuff this has led to woman wanting more excitement and materialism in thier relationships. I once read stories of women complaining about the gifts their boyfriends got them for not being lavish enough.

I can 100% guarantee these are the same women who judged me if their boyfriends or partners cheated on them or leave them they will crying and wondering why it happened to them. When you read the women's magazines and talk shows you will spot common patterns.

Indeed. You rarely see 2 people go at each other's throats here. And we obviously have nothing to flex or show off to each other. We're the probably the most normal people online, but the rest of the internet would never know that, or even bother to look closely enough to see this.

@MatrixPrisoner The same women and men who judged me in the digtal detox wellness community where also demanding Sanctioned Suicide be shut down and even called the site "evil" and demanded the moderators even be jailed.

These sanctimonious self righteous arseholes want the world to believe Sanctioned Suicide and other suicide forums are to blame. Yep according to these people its all Sanctioned Suicide fault but Never themselves, never the unfair status quo they comform and participating in a system where mentally ill people are judged, treated like lepers and excluded from family and friends and wider society. These arseholes can not see they are part of the problem regarding suicide.

Suicide and Society is connected but these sanctimonious people are too arrogant, self centred and egotistical too comprehend that.

Media is bought and only for vested interests. It can't be trusted. If you obey it and conform you won't be targeted. If you steer even slightly away for the narrative expect to lose people in your circle if you have one.
This is especially true in social circles where if a family gets into the "big leagues" they will parrot opinions and not tow the line due to being looked down upon by said group.

Digital detox community lol - I can only imagine the type of characters within that circle. Its
Normies. And with normies you can't discuss even if this stuff, anything negative, nothing about slaving away for a mortgage that will
Keep getting worse, etc. It'll just bring risk onto you as some might even report you - the UK has some extreme laws currently - you can be locked up for saying naughty things online.

Listen to LP everyday. My escapism.

@Throwawayacc3 It is formal name is No Surf which is a sub reddit community that gives tips on how to spend less time surfing the Internet, gaming and social media and being more productive with life and having healthier relationships in reality instead of online ones. The digtal detox community is just a name I use. It sounds great on paper but their discord group was not really that great. The sub had a discord group. The discord group was just wasn't supportive even though the rules are to be supportive of others.

● Moderators presence was distant and people were kind of left to it. None of the moderators intervened when the community where just being judgemental and ganging up on me.

● Circle jerking ie I spent a less hours on YouTube today or I spent x amount of days without social media instead I made X YZ.

● Too much blaming social media for everything you can't even have a serious and balanced discussion about things.

● Hostility when I criticised some of the methods these people suggested their magical free and low cost therapy options I can try and my city. When I explained the free and low cost options they were recommending did not work because my area generally has poor mental health services NOT all UK cities have the same level of mental health services in terms of access. Mental health in the UK varies a lot some areas have better acess to facilities than others.

The people blamed me and said I was "making excuses". These arseholes think they know the system when they know nothing.

I hate idiots who think they are intelligent and know the system.

The community members had too much " if I can do it so can you" - STFU

 

[AnyWonderBR]

I am sorry to hear about what you have experienced, and what you have gone through. I wish things were better, should have been better. For you. For all of us.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Those people sound like assholes, but I guess most people tend to be so stuck in their ways that they don't realize what they're saying and the impact it could have on others. While online communities can be great (and awful), I think I've come to realize how important it is to try and work on yourself by taking the time to learn to be honest with yourself and learning to try and think differently. Sometimes you get so absorbed by your usually way of thinking that it just ends up screwing you over and making you miserable, so I think it's important to try and let go of those normative thinking patterns.

You honestly seem a lot more accomplished than me and I geniunely think you deserve to be happy. I understand that you are in a lot of due to years of pain of rejection, being bullied, racism, and being emotionally abused by your family, but I think it's important that you find some sense of happiness within yourself. Society puts a lot of emphasis on things like being in a relationship, having kids, working some sort of prestigous job, etc. People idealize those things and put pressure on you to try and live of to those expectations so when you can't it can make you feel like crap. I've recently been coming to the realization that I don't need to live by any of societies expectations in order to be happy. My own thoughts on myself and things around me are starting to change for the better. I honestly think it's important that you try to and break free from those expectations too and forge your own path towards improvement. I know it's easier said then done but I have you have a lot potential to do good in this life. I also know that what I'm saying may come off as a bit naïve (I only starting having these revelations recently) but I do think that you deserve to be happy, even if society is working to prevent that.

 

[FireFox]

I am sorry to hear about what you have experienced, and what you have gone through. I wish things were better, should have been better. For you. For all of us.

@AnyWonderBR People act like it so f*cking easy to see a therapist for treatment. If it was so easy we would all be doing it

I have had judgmental arseholes and morons on a discord digal detox group tell me to try free therapy in my city which is available and blamed me for not "trying hard enough" and calling me "lazy" and finding "excuses"

Free therapy and lost cost therapy options in my city come with criteria which I do not meet. Some free therapy or low cost therapists you need to live in a certain Borough in the city to eligible for services. The mental health charity Mind does offer low cost or some cases free therapy across the UK. The Mind charity branches in my city the rules are you have to live in the area of the Mind branch to he eligible and majority of services cater to those on the mild to moderate spectrum of mental illness. Mind make it clear if you are suicidal you have to UK phone emergency services or the NHS crisis teams where a medical professional comes to your house to check up on you. My family do not know about me being suicidal I plan to keep it that way.

I have suicidal thoughts ongoing and anoxeria out of control I have to unfortunately go through the NHS services as my issues will be too big for these free or low cost therapists.

Majority of low cost or free therapy is catered for mild to moderate mental illnesses anything serve

These F*cking mental wellness idiots think they know everything, when they know f*ck all about the system. Therapy is a luxury for middle class and wealthy people in the UK and same can be said for other countries too.

Online support community is the substrate of garbage manure. You (Sasu) are my family and my friends.

@Labyrinth I now realise there is no such thing as a supportive online community. Even in online communities for mental health support I even got builled and ganged upon by the depression sufferers along with the moderators who side the people doing the bullying and ganging up on me. I have experienced this in the past.

Mental health advocates and campaigers like to blame Sanctioned Suicide but they never look at the toxicity that exists within online mental health communities and spaces, they never look at how hard it is to get treatment for mental health problems and the lack of support generally in society if want to make something good of your life.

According to these people everything is all Sanctioned Suicides fault and never the society which created conditions for a forum like Sanctioned Suicide to be born and other equivalent suicide forums.

 

[Throwawayacc3]

@AnyWonderBR People act like it so f*cking easy to see a therapist for treatment. If it was so easy we would all be doing it

I have had judgmental arseholes and morons on a discord digal detox group tell me to try free therapy in my city which is available and blamed me for not "trying hard enough" and calling me "lazy" and finding "excuses"

Free therapy and lost cost therapy options in my city come with criteria which I do not meet. Some free therapy or low cost therapists you need to live in a certain Borough in the city to eligible for services. The mental health charity Mind does offer low cost or some cases free therapy across the UK. The Mind charity branches in my city the rules are you have to live in the area of the Mind branch to he eligible and majority of services cater to those on the mild to moderate spectrum of mental illness. Mind make it clear if you are suicidal you have to UK phone emergency services or the NHS crisis teams where a medical professional comes to your house to check up on you. My family do not know about me being suicidal I plan to keep it that way.

I have suicidal thoughts ongoing and anoxeria out of control I have to unfortunately go through the NHS services as my issues will be too big for these free or low cost therapists.

Majority of low cost or free therapy is catered for mild to moderate mental illnesses anything serve

These F*cking mental wellness idiots think they know everything, when they know f*ck all about the system. Therapy is a luxury for middle class and wealthy people in the UK and same can be said for other countries too.


@Labyrinth I now realise there is no such thing as a supportive online community. Even in online communities for mental health support I even got builled and ganged upon by the depression sufferers along with the moderators who side the people doing the bullying and ganging up on me. I have experienced this in the past.

Mental health advocates and campaigers like to blame Sanctioned Suicide but they never look at the toxicity that exists within online mental health communities and spaces, they never look at how hard it is to get treatment for mental health problems and the lack of support generally in society if want to make something good of your life.

According to these people everything is all Sanctioned Suicides fault and never the society which created conditions for a forum like Sanctioned Suicide to be born and other equivalent suicide forums.

Just to prove my point. I got banned from the ResidentEvil Reddit and discord. Pointing out the hypocrisy of "cosplayers" advertising their only fans and other similar porn sites didn't go down well with the mods.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

@AnyWonderBR People act like it so f*cking easy to see a therapist for treatment. If it was so easy we would all be doing it

I have had judgmental arseholes and morons on a discord digal detox group tell me to try free therapy in my city which is available and blamed me for not "trying hard enough" and calling me "lazy" and finding "excuses"

Free therapy and lost cost therapy options in my city come with criteria which I do not meet. Some free therapy or low cost therapists you need to live in a certain Borough in the city to eligible for services. The mental health charity Mind does offer low cost or some cases free therapy across the UK. The Mind charity branches in my city the rules are you have to live in the area of the Mind branch to he eligible and majority of services cater to those on the mild to moderate spectrum of mental illness. Mind make it clear if you are suicidal you have to UK phone emergency services or the NHS crisis teams where a medical professional comes to your house to check up on you. My family do not know about me being suicidal I plan to keep it that way.

I have suicidal thoughts ongoing and anoxeria out of control I have to unfortunately go through the NHS services as my issues will be too big for these free or low cost therapists.

Majority of low cost or free therapy is catered for mild to moderate mental illnesses anything serve

These F*cking mental wellness idiots think they know everything, when they know f*ck all about the system. Therapy is a luxury for middle class and wealthy people in the UK and same can be said for other countries too.


@Labyrinth I now realise there is no such thing as a supportive online community. Even in online communities for mental health support I even got builled and ganged upon by the depression sufferers along with the moderators who side the people doing the bullying and ganging up on me. I have experienced this in the past.

Mental health advocates and campaigers like to blame Sanctioned Suicide but they never look at the toxicity that exists within online mental health communities and spaces, they never look at how hard it is to get treatment for mental health problems and the lack of support generally in society if want to make something good of your life.

According to these people everything is all Sanctioned Suicides fault and never the society which created conditions for a forum like Sanctioned Suicide to be born and other equivalent suicide forums.

Online communities can be so toxic and full of the most surface level bs, long gone are the days where the internet was for "weird" or nerdy sorts of people, and catered to a wide variety of niche peculiarities.

Now, the internet is accessible all over the world and billions of people are online daily, which means the internet is saturated with normality. The internet has become less and less welcoming to those who don't fit the mold, and this also means that the content on the web has been transformed to reflect that. Keeping ad revenue and investment requires a particular level of sanitisation. It's why so many websites ban suicidal people from speaking their minds or any sort of taboo discussion. The internet is so heavily censored now, and as a result it is difficult to have open and honest discussions where people might share difficult things or have conflicting viewpoints.

The people in those discord groups do not want to hear the reality that mental health services are not accessible to all, nor do they want to have to confront the notion that those services may not be super effective either. The charity Mind always has their details plastered on anything mental health related, and as a result are stretched thin and unable to provide a quality or comprehensive level of service. Everyone knows this, yet they continue to promote the charity anyway knowing it's just making the problem worse.

Due to liability reasons, IM services like discord encourage communities hosted on their platform to promote hotlines and other surface level bandaids of that nature. Nothing else. Even communities that are recovery focused but dabble in alternative methods (I'm thinking nootropic and research chemicals groups that are led by people who were deemed incurable by psychiatry) get banned.

And those people aren't even doing anything illegal or what you could consider recreational. They are just trying to treat themselves after the medical establishment gives up on them, but self-medicating is a cardinal sin apparently. Also, on many reddit subs, they straight up ban anyone who has a negative experience with therapy or psychiatric drugs, demonstrating how resistant they are to hearing any criticism of these so called super effective methods. They jump straight to deflecting blame on the person when their life doesn't improve, and are unwilling to display any sort of compassion towards those who have lost hope.

It's all pretty grim, when you realize most people can't see the reality of suicidal people's suffering because every single platform bans us, deletes our posts, or kicks us out for not hiding our struggles or censoring them to be more palletable for the average person. They don't want to see the failures of the mental health industry because trying to fix the way that system operates requires actual effort and investment from those in power. It's much easier for them to insult struggling people on a discord server then pat themselves on the back and act like they did a good deed, as opposed to campaigning for better mental health provisions and research.