Method Jumping, fall, anyone able/willing to crunch the numbers ?

[Miss clefable]

I used to skydive there are variations of a method we call d it the 'bullet ' you do the classic spread then put your arms at your side and straighten your legs and lean back/forward whatever your position is and you plummet at velocity believe me head first

That's right

 

[Jai]

That's right

But as I said earlier I was in NZ and I guy panicked and his reserve failed he literally landed on a bush about 4 feet high he broke his tibia his shins nothing else the cunt even had to balls to joke about it

 

[Circles]

You'd be better off rephrasing your question and asking on Quora. Or just searching on there. They frequently answer questions about how long it takes to fall from a given height, and so on.

Anyway, your mass doesn't affect your free fall speed. What it does affect is air resistance (drag), which is far more complicated to calculate and uses all those other factors you supplied like area, as well as air density. Your free fall speed would give you an upper limit of like 150 km/h. This is very generous, air resistance could affect it by like a third of that. There are calculators online that will calculate free fall speed with air resistance, you just have to look up how to calculate your air resistance so you can plug it in.

Quora is the worst place to ask about suicide methods.

 

[Ready to go.]

I used to skydive there are variations of a method we call d it the 'bullet ' you do the classic spread then put your arms at your side and straighten your legs and lean back/forward whatever your position is and you plummet at velocity believe me head first

Good information Jai. Thank you for that.

 

[Arak]

Just out of curiosity would the drug withdrawal kill you? You don't have to answer

No ... unlikely. Maybe after weeks/months, especially with serious and untreated wounds. But there is the 'rescuing you' factor.

 

[Sayo]

Quora is the worst place to ask about suicide methods.

Yes, it's the worst place to ask about suicide anything. However, it's a great place to ask detailed questions that can be solved with calculus That is why I said 'rephrase'. There are many questions exactly like this on Quora that have been answered quite accurately because the users on there can't help themselves.

 

[Arak]

@Sayo , just made an attempt !

 

[Jai]

@Sayo , just made an attempt !

Like I said mate saw a friends reserve fail fell almost 30000 ft in Queensland by accident only broke his leg so I don't know if you can survive that anything is possible

 

[Jai]

Like I said mate saw a friends reserve fail fell almost 30000 ft in Queensland by accident only broke his leg so I don't know if you can survive that anything is possible

Edit queenstown

 

[Arak]

@Sayo and others,

No luck yet ... I think the weight of the body AND the position (assume a horizontal position, possibly the worst case scenario) can make a lot of difference. If I were an elephant ... splat.

I might *splat* too, but wouldn't want to survive splintered bones, brain penetrated with bone splinters ...... and I presume in time someone would *rescue* me.

So if someone here knows enough about relevant physics ...

 

[Jai]

@Sayo and others,

No luck yet ... I think the weight of the body AND the position (assume a horizontal position, possibly the worst case scenario) can make a lot of difference. If I were an elephant ... splat.

I might *splat* too, but wouldn't want to survive splintered bones, brain penetrated with bone splinters ...... and I presume in time someone would *rescue* me.

So if someone here knows enough about relevant physics ...

I think it's all bullshit I took 5000mg of Tylenol for 3 days didn't puke nothing happened I'm not saying there maybe damage and I drank too just saying why are we still here despite our best efforts

 

[Jai]

I think it's all bullshit I took 5000mg of Tylenol for 3 days didn't puke nothing happened I'm not saying there maybe damage and I drank too just saying why are we still here despite our best efforts

That means everyday I took that

 

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Here is something I read awhile ago that I went back and found. Not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for, but maybe it can help.

https://www.science20.com/alpha_meme/suicide_life_ends_six_meters_above_ground-78133

 

[Arak]

@Jai , I don't want to encourage you but I just that 24 gr is usually lethal. Just don't count on it. It's an ugly way to go, and cumulative effects matter too.

 

[Arak]

Here is something I read awhile ago that I went back and found. Not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for, but maybe it can help.

https://www.science20.com/alpha_meme/suicide_life_ends_six_meters_above_ground-78133

30 m/s Always lethal ?

It would likely cause severe damage, but imagine falling on your feet first and reflexively breaking your fall. Enough opportunity for a 'rescue' ? People have survived great falls.

I vaguely recall a question, quora, can't find it atm, but here is something a bit like it. https://www.quora.com/Can-ants-die-if-they-fall

Two more: https://www.quora.com/If-you-drop-a...tate-Building-which-one-hits-the-ground-first

https://www.quora.com/Which-falls-faster-from-a-building-an-elephant-or-a-mouse

My low body weight, height wouldn't help. How some osteoporosis would factor in ?
I rephrased my quora question a bit.

 

[Deivis]

Hmm.... If you live in a civilized country (and city), I guess there has to be a skydiving club around.

You can buy a skyjump (with a parachute) ticket. And to open it in-flight or not is up to you.

 

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30 m/s Always lethal ?

It would likely cause severe damage, but imagine falling on your feet first and reflexively breaking your fall. Enough opportunity for a 'rescue' ? People have survived great falls.

I vaguely recall a question, quora, can't find it atm, but here is something a bit like it. https://www.quora.com/Can-ants-die-if-they-fall

Two more: https://www.quora.com/If-you-drop-a...tate-Building-which-one-hits-the-ground-first

https://www.quora.com/Which-falls-faster-from-a-building-an-elephant-or-a-mouse

My low body weight, height wouldn't help. How some osteoporosis would factor in ?
I rephrased my quora question a bit.

I'm unfortunately not so great with numbers, so some of that is hard for me to understand. But I thought the overall explanation was interesting, especially about blacking out before hitting the ground. I think I saw the full article on another forum, but unfortunately wasn't able to find it in my searches. It might be out there somewhere though.

 

[Salvacion]

I can't figure out how to land on my head. It seems you'd have little control over what position your body ends up in falling from a great height. Does anyone know how make sure you land on head?

I'm planning to jump from a 130 foot high and cannot determine how I will land on my head either.

 

[onewayroad]

Just wanted to add that I had a friend jump from the 8th floor (or maybe 10th?) of an apartment complex, land on concrete, and not die instantly. It took him about 36 hours to die from cranial pressure.

So I think even if you jumped out of a plane and landed on concrete if you don't land directly on your head there is a chance you will take a long time to die.

And if you jump off a building or a bridge or something and land on concrete I think the chances are pretty high that you won't die instantly, you're going to be in agony with your whole body broken and crushed for at least a few minutes if not hours or days.

So based on that jumping is a no-go for me, unless like I said in a another thread, you're jumping into a volcano. That's just awesome.

 

[Arak]

@onewayroad ,

it's not pretty, indeed. It helps if something is nearby, you are energetic and are in a gutsy mood. If you have no tolerance loading you up with opiates and sedatives will help as long as that doesn't impede the fall.

If I could only jump in the place I live in ... it's as flat as it could be.

 

[Arak]

Do you people think this one https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Free_falling_graph_simple.png is correct ?

After 8 seconds one's speed would be at about 280 km/h ? Still not very high ? And for a body weight of 50 kg ? Rounding down ?

 

[Suicideisnirvana]

I guess I'm saying it's hard to end your life and maybe just maybe other forces are at play

Others forces that surprisingly don't work with Nembutal.

Gunshot to the head and jumping from an extreme height has a 99% chance of success, obviously 99% mean there is still a 1% that will survive.

 

[Jai]

Others forces that surprisingly don't work with Nembutal.

Gunshot to the head and jumping from an extreme height has a 99% chance of success, obviously 99% mean there is still a 1% that will survive.

Chill mate it's not like I can go down the road and purchase them

 

[Gainax]

This is going to be my method of choice, jumping from a 70m bridge into water
some insightful links about the golden gate bridge

The Math involved
https://www.quora.com/How-does-jumping-off-a-bridge-into-water-kill-you

Main causes of death
http://libraryonline.erau.edu/online-full-text/faa-aviation-medicine-reports/AM68-19.pdf

in short:

• I will most probably not die upon impact
• My ribcage and many other bones will be destroyed/broken
• My internal organs will be ripped apart due to inertia from the deceleration
  
• i will either die by drowning or internal bleeding
• Death will come in a matter of seconds or some minutes
• from 75m and above te fatality rate is 98%

i could do it at home by hanging or partial suspension, but i dont want my mother to find my corpse

i could also tie a rope to the bridge and my neck and jump, with a large rope i would be self-decapitaded...but i want an open casket funeral and don't my head to get lost under the river

 

[Suicideisnirvana]

Chill mate it's not like I can go down the road and purchase them

Sorry mate, my bad, i misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about other forces like something mystical lol, my apologies.

 

[onewayroad]

This is going to be my method of choice, jumping from a 70m bridge into water
some insightful links about the golden gate bridge

The Math involved
https://www.quora.com/How-does-jumping-off-a-bridge-into-water-kill-you

Main causes of death
http://libraryonline.erau.edu/online-full-text/faa-aviation-medicine-reports/AM68-19.pdf

in short:

• I will most probably not die upon impact
• My ribcage and many other bones will be destroyed/broken
• My internal organs will be ripped apart due to inertia from the deceleration
  
• i will either die by drowning or internal bleeding
• Death will come in a matter of seconds or some minutes
• from 75m and above te fatality rate is 98%

i could do it at home by hanging or partial suspension, but i dont want my mother to find my corpse

i could also tie a rope to the bridge and my neck and jump, with a large rope i would be self-decapitaded...but i want an open casket funeral and don't my head to get lost under the river

I was just reading that quora page and someone mentioned that many bodies are eaten partially or completely by marine life. Maybe something to consider if you want an open casket... also I hate the idea of drowning so I wouldn't choose that way personally. I want to leave my body in tact too so I am choosing an argon mask as my method. Seems peaceful. But not everyone can get everything needed for the setup.

 

[Gainax]

I was just reading that quora page and someone mentioned that many bodies are eaten partially or completely by marine life. Maybe something to consider if you want an open casket... also I hate the idea of drowning so I wouldn't choose that way personally. I want to leave my body in tact too so I am choosing an argon mask as my method. Seems peaceful. But not everyone can get everything needed for the setup.

I initially was planning to do it at night where threres almost no traffic but then the maritime police might have difficulty locating my body in the water at dark and miss me and then that could happen, so im planning to do it during daylight in a time where theres is less traffic, the maritime police will be able to reach me within 30 minutes and have a much greater success recovering my body

 

[NoOneKnows]

can you please tell me what that graph means?

Do you people think this one https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Free_falling_graph_simple.png is correct ?

After 8 seconds one's speed would be at about 280 km/h ? Still not very high ? And for a body weight of 50 kg ? Rounding down ?

 

[Deivis]

Oct 10, 2018

NEW YORK – A former assistant to Goldman Sachs, Nicolas DeMeyer apparently committed suicide Tuesday, dying around the time he was expected to plead guilty to charges of stealing $1.2 million of pricey wine from his ex-boss.

When security forced open his door, DeMeyer was naked and sitting on the window sill.
He smiled at them and then jumped, sources said.

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Another winning case!

 

[Arak]

Yes, it's the worst place to ask about suicide anything. However, it's a great place to ask detailed questions that can be solved with calculus That is why I said 'rephrase'. There are many questions exactly like this on Quora that have been answered quite accurately because the users on there can't help themselves.

I tried a couple of times ... couldn't get an answer, and answers already present on Quora are not that clear either. Apparently, numerous factors are at play.

Anyway, a bit like the worst case scenario - let's assume I weigh 50 kg, height 1.86 metres, falling in a straight horizontal position. Probably the worst way to do it, with the exception of landing on your feet.

Weight, velocity, air resistance and the way the force of the landing meets your body. It has been some days since I last checked quora, gave up ...