Discussion It seems that funeral cry got banned, does anybody know a reason?

[Leiden]

That's because humor was evil in her eyes.

This wasn't humor

 

[Bed]

Yes l know this, but there is no such thing as an "automatic" ban, because a mod has to decide which percentage points are applied, and when, and the percentage points which take someone over 100% are all decided by a mod.

You are describing something as "auto ban" whilst also describing the fact that this automatic output is governed entirely by moderator assessment and decision making. I don't have a problem with this fwiw, even as someone who has been given flaky percentage points for bullshit reasons because I'm on the staff naughty list, l just think it may be better if staff would acknowledge someone was banned because they were repeatedly warned and failed to heed the warning rather than suggest it was automatic and essentially in the hands of a calculated algorithm.

I don't look at a user's warning percentage when applying a new warning, it's irrelevant to me and I think can influence moderation in a negative way. Hence when I gave FC the warning it resulted in a ban. Fwiw I think she's had enough chances here.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

This wasn't humor

She didn't believe in laughter at all. So of course she wouldn't make fun of anyone. But her passive-aggression showed in many other ways. Such as the fact that she constantly tried to police and shame people here for making not even mean but completely benign jokes.

 

[Bed]

@Placo @ijustwishtodie @Dr Iron Arc everyone on this thread :

from what @Bed said . it doesn't seem definite FC will be allowed back. what it seems they said is that for now banned but will determine again? in a month if they will let FC back or not ?

Correct, we will reassess in a month's time

 

[Saturn_]

I understand why a lot of people here may empathize with FuneralCry, and there is no doubt that she is suffering, but I'm very glad this decision was taken. Even barring her rhetoric, her presence was extremely divisive and beckoned for drama, and she sort of reveled in it. This forum seems to have a relatively easy-going atmosphere except when FuneralCry is in the picture. I began to feel unsafe when it came to disagreeing with this anti-life rhetoric, and when it came to trying to see the good in life. The nature of her posts was also really indirect and passive aggressive at times, leaving people to worry about saying something wrong, when they are on a website where they should be able to feel like they won't be looked down upon for venting their problems. Her posts which vaguely condemn posts about self harm come to mind. I hope she can find another outlet, but her usage of this outlet has proven destructive for countless others. It shouldn't be solely about her.

 

[Leiden]

She didn't believe in laughter at all. So of course wouldn't make fun of anyone. But her passuve-aggression showed in many other ways. Such as the fact that she constantly tried to police and shame people here for making not even mean but completely benign jokes.

I understand what you're saying and I can respect your opinion but I'm not talking about some benign jokes. I'm talking about cruelty, but for that matter, who goes onto a clearly suffering person's thread ( in the suicide discussion) and jokes in any manner at all... Either way, It's cruel imo. It made me feel bad for her when I see that, just as I would on anyone else's posts of suffering in this community, if they were being mocked and laughed at

 

[bernara]

Correct, we will reassess in a month's time

Don't you understand that life isn't always about following a strict set of rules? Every situation is unique, and applying numerous hard restrictions on behavior without considering this makes any system rigid. In this particular situation, the consequences of such a reaction may be fatal. There is always an option to introduce a set of soft rules, the violation of which may result in account suspension according to the moderators' decision. Please.

 

[Myforevercharlie]

Don't you understand that life isn't always about following a strict set of rules? Every situation is unique, and applying numerous hard restrictions on behavior without considering this makes any system rigid. In this particular situation, the consequences of such a reaction may be fatal. There is always an option to introduce a set of soft rules, the violation of which may result in account suspension according to the moderators' decision. Please.

You are a new user
What you may not understand is that FC has had many changes, so much users accused us of favoritism.

We had many talks with her, she always assured us to improve her behavior. This isn't something from the last 6 months.

She has been considered. Many times .

 

[R_N]

It might do her good if she doesn't keep doing the same thing elsewhere. I wish her peace.

 

[UmbraDweller]

I've seen her begging for her posts to not be taken down before the thread got deleted shortly after. I can imagine how devasted she must be and I feel sad for her. SaSu is clearly her sanctuary, it might be the only good thing left in her miserable life. Can't really blame her for being so overly active on here if she got nobody and is all alone, without a better place to express herself. It means everything to her.

FC's posts are often considered extreme, repetitive, annoying even. I'd be lying if I said I've never felt that way myself, even though I agree with most of things she got to say. It's okay to not like her. But what turns my stomach upside down is how badly she gets treated. It's dissapointing to see it happen especially on a place like this one. She's just a suffering person looking for comfort, same as everyone else. Nobody deserves to be mocked for that. Some of you can do better.

I'm aware that her behaviour is often problematic and I understand she broke rules. But I don't think it's on purpose, she's mostly just venting. With her autism it might be difficult to grasp on these things. Her posts can be offensive, but ignore button exists and is quite an easy solution. I believe her presence has a place in here.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

SaSu is clearly her sanctuary, it might be the only good thing left in her miserable life. Can't really blame her for being so overly active on here if she got nobody and is all alone, without a better place to express herself. It means everything to her.

How does that square with her ever more frequent claims that the site was only good for venting, that she found no comfort in it, that it just made her feel more alone and longing for death?

Either she was being truthful or not. If she meant those things sincerely then forced time away could only be beneficial since she seemed to lack the wherewithal to detach from the site. If she was not being honest then her presence was not justifiable for reasons external to her.

Either way now she has an opportunity to take stock on her relationship to this site and on her life and maybe will feel more motivated to take steps to find her peace or palliate better.

We can feel sympathy for her but I think that's a good thing on balance.

With her autism it might be difficult to grasp on these things.

Autism means your *initial* social intuition can be off, but once things have been explained to you plainly (e.g. don't stand so close to me, don't talk so loud) there's no excuse not to understand and adjust. For some reason she was never able to adjust.

 

[Chinaski]

I don't look at a user's warning percentage when applying a new warning, it's irrelevant to me and I think can influence moderation in a negative way. Hence when I gave FC the warning it resulted in a ban. Fwiw I think she's had enough chances here.

That's fine but slightly misses the point which is that ultimately there's no such thing as an "auto ban", to be clear l make no argument for her reinstatement whatsoever.

Correct, we will reassess in a month's time

Can l ask what will be different in a month? If her conduct is ban-worthy now it will still be so in four weeks.

I've seen her begging for her posts to not be taken down before the thread got deleted shortly after. I can imagine how devasted she must be and I feel sad for her. SaSu is clearly her sanctuary, it might be the only good thing left in her miserable life. Can't really blame her for being so overly active on here if she got nobody and is all alone, without a better place to express herself. It means everything to her.

FC's posts are often considered extreme, repetitive, annoying even. I'd be lying if I said I've never felt that way myself, even though I agree with most of things she got to say. It's okay to not like her. But what turns my stomach upside down is how badly she gets treated. It's dissapointing to see it happen especially on a place like this one. She's just a suffering person looking for comfort, same as everyone else. Nobody deserves to be mocked for that. Some of you can do better.

I'm aware that her behaviour is often problematic and I understand she broke rules. But I don't think it's on purpose, she's mostly just venting. With her autism it might be difficult to grasp on these things. Her posts can be offensive, but ignore button exists and is quite an easy solution. I believe her presence has a place in here.

Autism should not give a pass on shitty conduct to others which continues over a period of years, and it's not imcumbent on everyone to use the "ignore" facility to serve the needs of one individual.

Most of us have issues which impact on our interaction but lines have to be surely drawn as to what is acceptable and what is just routinely poisonous, to the point of it being essentially no different from actual trolling. We're all capable of being a dick on here, myself included, but she's treated this place like it's her personal domain for two years and her defenders should not demand that every user on here accomodates this. She is not bigger than the forum or warranting of any special treatment that would not be available to anyone else, and frankly she has been absolutely fucking indulged for too long.

 

[Esokabat]

Not going to launch into FC now she has no right to reply but going to state here, (given the white noise being made around how awful it must be for FC abd how she must be afforded special consideration not extended to others) on behalf of myself and the not insignificant number of sound users who no longer feel welcome here as a result of interacting with her, that l hope she remains banned.

Fully agree

That's fine but slightly misses the point which is that ultimately there's no such thing as an "auto ban", to be clear l make no argument for her reinstatement whatsoever.

Can l ask what will be different in a month? If her conduct is ban-worthy now it will still be so in four weeks.

Autism should not give a pass on shitty conduct to others which continues over a period of years, and it's not imcumbent on everyone to use the "ignore" facility to serve the needs of one individual.

Most of us have issues which impact on our interaction but lines have to be surely drawn as to what is acceptable and what is just routinely poisonous, to the point of it being essentially no different from actual trolling. We're all capable of being a dick on here, myself included, but she's treated this place like it's her personal domain for two years and her defenders should not demand that every user on here accomodates this. She is not bigger than the forum or warranting of any special treatment that would not be available to anyone else, and frankly she has been absolutely fucking indulged for too long.

Yes, fully agree. I agree with the ban, it was the right call. This forum is for everyone with same rules and nobody should be above the rules. I assume they will eventually let her back in but I have never seen her bullied, in fact I have only seen her being the biggest bully in here, and an absolute troll. Autism is not an excuse not to follow rules and basic decency, I have autism and this does not authorize me to HATE everyone and treat this forum like her personal vomit bucket

 

[UmbraDweller]

How does that square with her ever more frequent claims that the site was only good for venting, that she found no comfort in it, that it just made her feel more alone and longing for death?

Either she was being truthful or not. If she meant those things sincerely then forced time away could only be beneficial since she seemed to lack the wherewithal to detach from the site.

Thats true. I've seen her complaining about how this site isn't what it used to be a lot though. So maybe she started saying those things for matter of her frustration because it no longer gives her that level of comfort anymore and right now it's just for venting. Yet it's still all she got and it must be hard to move on since it has served her for very long time so she keeps holding on to it.

So I agree that this might actually be beneficial for her. Maybe this forced break will be helpful and she will finally manage to move on a bit since it doesn't give her what it used to. I wish the best to her.

 

[Chinaski]

Thats true. I've seen her complaining about how this site isn't what it used to be a lot though. So maybe she started saying those things for matter of her frustration because it no longer gives her that level of comfort anymore and right now it's just for venting.

She's been doing this for *two years* tbf

 

[UmbraDweller]

Autism should not give a pass on shitty conduct to others which continues over a period of years, and it's not imcumbent on everyone to use the "ignore" facility to serve the needs of one individual.

Most of us have issues which impact on our interaction but lines have to be surely drawn as to what is acceptable and what is just routinely poisonous, to the point of it being essentially no different from actual trolling. We're all capable of being a dick on here, myself included, but she's treated this place like it's her personal domain for two years and her defenders should not demand that every user on here accomodates this. She is not bigger than the forum or warranting of any special treatment that would not be available to anyone else, and frankly she has been absolutely fucking indulged for too long.

Of course I agree with that. Rules should apply to everyone with no exceptions including autism. If someone breaks them repeatedly a ban is absolutely reasonable. If she's allowed back, she definitely needs to find a way to be more respectful of others on here. I was more trying to be understandable of the reasons for her actions there, because she doesn't seem to be trying to act purposefully offensive from what I've seen and she deserves more kindness in my eyes. But I must admit the truth is I don't know her entire story, you have been here way longer than me to witness it.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I haven't been here long and I won't be here long. I don't know FC as person. And I don't know her real life situation either. I can't guarantee that my assessment of her is correct, but I would like to share it anyway...

She doesn't hate people, she just hates her situation. It is pain, great pain.
She wants to die but can't, for whatever reason. She is stuck between life and death. When she talks about being hollow and empty, that is even one of the positive feelings.
This person is suffering so much and is powerless to change the situation. This person does not want to go through this suffering again under any circumstances. She doesn't hate, she begs... Why do we procreate, why did we procreate, it creates unbelievably cruel suffering with an endless depths. And she's damn right about that. Every birth exists out of selfishness. Even if the birth had a good reason, it is always selfish. You don't have a child for the good of the child. And if that's what you think, then that's naive. Because you don't know if the child will be happy in life.
And even if you are parents, it doesn't change reality.
You are not bad people because you have children. She has nothing against her parents. So why should she hate other parents?
It questions reproduction as a whole, not that of the individual. She refers primarily to the history of evolution. The fact that humans as a whole have never stopped procreating is a selfish tragedy.
She doesn't hate people who are happy, she just doesn't understand them. What she hates are people who are happy and behave disgustingly. Out of her desperate anger, she generalises a little too much.
I find it so sad to see how short-sightedly people talk about her. I don't understand why people don't just ignore her.
I hope that the ban doesn't affect her too much, but I'm afraid it will. The only refuge in her lonely agonising life has abandoned her. Things are getting worse. The depth knows no bottom unless it is the most intense pain one can consciously bear.

Your assessment of FC is correct. I've seen people here think that FC doesn't actually want to die but rather that she wants others to die. I've seen people call her manipulative and also that she enjoys seeing people die. None of this is correct and that's obvious from analysing her posts. FC does want death, perhaps more than anybody else here, but she doesn't want to go through the process of dying due to how risky it is. She acknowledges that some people suffer worse than her and that she could also be suffering worse if she failed a suicide attempt. Also, there are other reasons for why she isn't killing herself but mentioning them would make my reply too long.


You're also right about procreation. She doesn't hate parents but only procreation. Like you said, she doesn't even hate her parents so why should she hate other parents?

Your analysis of how FC views happiness is correct too. She just thinks that happiness is delusional as she's never been happy during her entire life hence she can't understand happiness. She just generalises her posts because all she's doing is venting about life from her perspective. All of her vents are from her perspective because she's the one doing the venting. Oh, also, I think that, if you were to search her posts, she also somewhat explains why she thinks happiness is delusional but I can't access her profile as she's banned. Oh, actually, I found a post of hers which verifies what you said

People who want to live in such an awful world must be delusional.

100% agree. Some people probably are, ye. However, if your blessed with money and looks, I'm finding it hard to believe you aren't enjoying life to some extent. I guess I personally make that assumption because I'm unhappy lacking the latter. plenty of celebrities have died by suicide. money...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Chinaski]

Your assessment of FC is correct. I've seen people here think that FC doesn't actually want to die but rather that she wants others to die. I've seen people call her manipulative and also that she enjoys seeing people die. None of this is correct and that's obvious from analysing her posts. FC does want death, perhaps more than anybody else here, but she doesn't want to go through the process of dying due to how risky it is. She acknowledges that some people suffer worse than her and that she could also be suffering worse if she failed a suicide attempt. Also, there are other reasons for why she isn't killing herself but mentioning them would make my reply too long.


You're also right about procreation. She doesn't hate parents but only procreation. Like you said, she doesn't even hate her parents so why should she hate other parents?

Your analysis of how FC views happiness is correct too. She just thinks that happiness is delusional as she's never been happy during her entire life hence she can't understand happiness. She just generalises her posts because all she's doing is venting about life from her perspective. All of her vents are from her perspective because she's the one doing the venting. Oh, also, I think that, if you were to search her posts, she also somewhat explains why she thinks happiness is delusional but I can't access her profile as she's banned

This is such an impressive piece of revisionist PR spin that I'm surprised the lsraeli government haven't made you a very lucrative offer

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I haven't been here long and I won't be here long. I don't know FC as person. And I don't know her real life situation either. I can't guarantee that my assessment of her is correct, but I would like to share it anyway...

She doesn't hate people, she just hates her situation. It is pain, great pain.
She wants to die but can't, for whatever reason. She is stuck between life and death. When she talks about being hollow and empty, that is even one of the positive feelings.
This person is suffering so much and is powerless to change the situation. This person does not want to go through this suffering again under any circumstances. She doesn't hate, she begs... Why do we procreate, why did we procreate, it creates unbelievably cruel suffering with an endless depths. And she's damn right about that. Every birth exists out of selfishness. Even if the birth had a good reason, it is always selfish. You don't have a child for the good of the child. And if that's what you think, then that's naive. Because you don't know if the child will be happy in life.
And even if you are parents, it doesn't change reality.
You are not bad people because you have children. She has nothing against her parents. So why should she hate other parents?
It questions reproduction as a whole, not that of the individual. She refers primarily to the history of evolution. The fact that humans as a whole have never stopped procreating is a selfish tragedy.
She doesn't hate people who are happy, she just doesn't understand them. What she hates are people who are happy and behave disgustingly. Out of her desperate anger, she generalises a little too much.
I find it so sad to see how short-sightedly people talk about her. I don't understand why people don't just ignore her.
I hope that the ban doesn't affect her too much, but I'm afraid it will. The only refuge in her lonely agonising life has abandoned her. Things are getting worse. The depth knows no bottom unless it is the most intense pain one can consciously bear.

I think that this thread shares a lot about what FC's mind is like. She replies a lot here. What intrigued me is post #50 where FC says this:

"Calling people a bot, stubborn and rude is very unkind. I am clearly suffering enough and behind all these words I am a real person. I know people are just trying to get rid of me from the forum. However those words cannot hurt me."

I was never meant for this life.

I really should have never existed in the first place, every day it hurts me that I have to endure this life and that it is so difficult to leave this world. As long as someone is alive there is no escape from suffering and the pain can always get so much worse. That is why life is so...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[ForgottenAgain]

OK, so the person that constantly made polarising threads looking down on others because they didn't have her extreme worldview but was constantly kept safe because she was just "venting" is banned - great!

She was treated like a queen here while clearly being a nuisance to a big portion of the community. A lot of people in her defence just saying we should ignore her posts but she didn't have the same courtesy of doing that to others she disagreed with. Instead, she would make post complaining about how other members use the site or what they post, making people feel bad for no reason.

About time she gets some consequences her way. Surely it must hurt a lot given how much she used this forum, but at the same time I hope this can help her in a way.

 

[Esokabat]

I think that this thread shares a lot about what FC's mind is like. She replies a lot here. What intrigued me is post #50 where FC says this:

"Calling people a bot, stubborn and rude is very unkind. I am clearly suffering enough and behind all these words I am a real person. I know people are just trying to get rid of me from the forum. However those words cannot hurt me."

I was never meant for this life.

I really should have never existed in the first place, every day it hurts me that I have to endure this life and that it is so difficult to leave this world. As long as someone is alive there is no escape from suffering and the pain can always get so much worse. That is why life is so...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Yes, narcissist personalities are not hurt by what others say as they don't care what everyone else says. They just like to hear themselves talking or other's talking about what they said. Some people have the innate ability to recognize Narcisist traits almost innately and some people are completely fooled by it. This explains why people either cannot stand her or, analyze her scripts with more effort and enthusiasm than a Shakespeare expert analyzing classic literature (also this innate difference in people in regards to the ability to spot
Narcissists might also explains current US politics). I am not fooled by her, I can see her for what she is. And I think if someone wants to spend analyzing thousands of lines of text, there are more worthy literature to deeply analyze from all angle than her repetitive narcissitic self-centered writing. Of course she cannot be hurt by words. She doesn't care what you think, what you say, what you write, she just wants to hear herself talking. There is no mystery here. And no, she does not want to and never will CTB. Mark my words. Narcissists don't CTB. They are tbe center of their universe and the most important part of the whole. She just want everyone else to die. You are easily fooled and Narcisist are the masters of manipulation. She is good at what she is doing, I will give her that

OK, so the person that constantly made polarising threads looking down on others because they didn't have her extreme worldview but was constantly kept safe because she was just "venting" is banned - great!

She was treated like a queen here while clearly being a nuisance to a big portion of the community. A lot of people in her defence just saying we should ignore her posts but she didn't have the same courtesy of doing that to others she disagreed with. Instead, she would make post complaining about how other members use the site or what they post, making people feel bad for no reason.

About time she gets some consequences her way. Surely it must hurt a lot given how much she used this forum, but at the same time I hope this can help her in a way.

So so so agree!

 

[Chinaski]

I think that this thread shares a lot about what FC's mind is like. She replies a lot here. What intrigued me is post #50 where FC says this:

"Calling people a bot, stubborn and rude is very unkind. I am clearly suffering enough and behind all these words I am a real person. I know people are just trying to get rid of me from the forum. However those words cannot hurt me."

I was never meant for this life.

I really should have never existed in the first place, every day it hurts me that I have to endure this life and that it is so difficult to leave this world. As long as someone is alive there is no escape from suffering and the pain can always get so much worse. That is why life is so...

sanctioned-suicide.net

We can all use one post from 35000 as a representation of who FC is. Even l can do it, look:

Too late for that. You got what you deserved, it took a long time but this site is finally free from your drivel. Goodbye and good riddance, this site is so much better off without trolls like you. I hope that you enjoy being happy, no wait happier far far away from this site.

 

[Otaku]

I think she should stay banned. But it's eventually the mods/admins that decide that.
I think some people in here lack respect for moderators/admins in here, begging for her to be unbanned.

I remember a whole lot of people that have been banned because of FC. She had a habit of reporting right and left, when people asked her something she didn't like. I have lost counts, how many times this has happened.

Do people really think its gonna be different, if she was unbanned? If you do, you're seriously naive. It has been stated that she has been given so many chances. And another thing is that, she does not respect the rules inhere.

Her spiting and using of harsh language attacking people and the community. And there is a lot more. But I think the point is made...

 

[Pluto]

Having seen the update, I commend the admin team on making the responsible decision. I have long advocated that we should prioritise the wellbeing of the entire community, not just one person, but I didn't think it would ever happen.

Firstly, we do not need a prominent member espousing lunatic fringe attitudes and giving opponents of the website fodder to allege that we are a death cult. The sheer power of mass media and politicians has regularly threatened the existence of this website.

Secondly, there are entire groups who have been routinely intimidated and berated who will now feel much safer here; namely parents and anyone who is considering recovery at any level.

Over the years, FC's character underwent a startling descent from a melancholic young woman to a raging death fetishist who advocated for child suicide, threw tantrums against the very existence of the "recovery" forum (forgetting that her former self actually used it) and railed against anyone giving or receiving support not explicitly pertaining to death. If we treat the lives of others with any respect, this is dangerous online behaviour for a purportedly safe space.

She became increasingly unresponsive to feedback and largely stopped interacting with others beyond generic and mechanical commiserations, yet somehow always attracted a vocal cult following dedicating itself to excusing her behaviour. The claim was that her aggression was mere mental illness, that those offended by her attacks should just ignore and that she is 'just venting'. FC would artfully drop inflammatory posts then step back to watch the community descend into pages of heavy in-fighting. I felt that she viewed us, our lives and our deaths as mere entertainment.

Autism is an extremely common ailment on this forum and yet I cannot name any other member even remotely like FC in their conduct. I mentioned previously that I had supported someone reverse a ban; it was someone with bipolar who made a bunch of unhinged posts in a state of mania but was deeply ashamed and regretful afterwards. FC, by contrast, would only ever repeat her attacks on others and then play the victim in response to backlash.

In summary, it has been sad and sobering to witness FC descend from a harmless, wounded personality to a destructive influence on the entire community. I just ask that everyone consider the good of all in the community and not fall into the trap of endlessly pandering to someone whose bleak personality is not compatible with any sort of community standards.

 

[redeeming_butterfly]

Your assessment of FC is correct. I've seen people here think that FC doesn't actually want to die but rather that she wants others to die. I've seen people call her manipulative and also that she enjoys seeing people die. None of this is correct and that's obvious from analysing her posts. FC does want death, perhaps more than anybody else here, but she doesn't want to go through the process of dying due to how risky it is. She acknowledges that some people suffer worse than her and that she could also be suffering worse if she failed a suicide attempt. Also, there are other reasons for why she isn't killing herself but mentioning them would make my reply too long.


You're also right about procreation. She doesn't hate parents but only procreation. Like you said, she doesn't even hate her parents so why should she hate other parents?

Your analysis of how FC views happiness is correct too. She just thinks that happiness is delusional as she's never been happy during her entire life hence she can't understand happiness. She just generalises her posts because all she's doing is venting about life from her perspective. All of her vents are from her perspective because she's the one doing the venting. Oh, also, I think that, if you were to search her posts, she also somewhat explains why she thinks happiness is delusional but I can't access her profile as she's banned. Oh, actually, I found a post of hers which verifies what you said

People who want to live in such an awful world must be delusional.

100% agree. Some people probably are, ye. However, if your blessed with money and looks, I'm finding it hard to believe you aren't enjoying life to some extent. I guess I personally make that assumption because I'm unhappy lacking the latter. plenty of celebrities have died by suicide. money...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thank you, I didn't know this thread.

It's incredible how connected I feel to this person.
I'm not going to delve any further into this topic. I also no longer read the comments from certain people.
I think the existential purpose of some people is exactly what they do and that says a lot about them.
I'm not interested in these people.
I'm only interested in FC and I often think about her and wish that she could somehow get her valve diverted.

As she will be away for at least a month, I won't see her here again.
Thank you, FuneralCry, for being there.
Thank you for saying exactly what you said.
Thank you for saying it again and again.
You had not the slightest influence on my CTB decision, I came here just to research about methods.
But you gave me one of the most beautiful feelings, a feeling that was very rare in my life, if at all. The feeling of deep connection. And as I write this, tears are rolling down my face. No, it's not sadness. It's not tears of joy either. They are tears of understanding. They are tears of connection. It is a beautiful sadness. It is a deeply melancholic sense of joy.
A feeling that I will take with me on the bus. I will think about this feeling. And if I had to entrust only one person to be God, it would be you.
Because you are the opposite of even the slightest cruelty. You would not give cruelty the slightest chance to exist. And that's the only thing I feel is a valuable ideal.

You can tear my post apart. That's because I'll never look at this thread again. Because, unlike FC, I'm far too vulnerable. And I have no intention of letting these feelings get to me, so shortly before my CTB appointment.
I wish you all the best.

 

[Chinaski]

Having seen the update, I commend the admin team on making the responsible decision. I have long advocated that we should prioritise the wellbeing of the entire community, not just one person, but I didn't think it would ever happen.

Firstly, we do not need a prominent member espousing lunatic fringe attitudes and giving opponents of the website fodder to allege that we are a death cult. The sheer power of mass media and politicians has regularly threatened the existence of this website.

Secondly, there are entire groups who have been routinely intimidated and berated who will now feel much safer here; namely parents and anyone who is considering recovery at any level.

Over the years, FC's character underwent a startling descent from a melancholic young woman to a raging death fetishist who advocated for child suicide, threw tantrums against the very existence of the "recovery" forum (forgetting that her former self actually used it) and railed against anyone giving or receiving support not explicitly pertaining to death. If we treat the lives of others with any respect, this is dangerous online behaviour for a purportedly safe space.

She became increasingly unresponsive to feedback and largely stopped interacting with others beyond generic and mechanical commiserations, yet somehow always attracted a vocal cult following dedicating itself to excusing her behaviour. The claim was that her aggression was mere mental illness, that those offended by her attacks should just ignore and that she is 'just venting'. FC would artfully drop inflammatory posts then step back to watch the community descend into pages of heavy in-fighting. I felt that she viewed us, our lives and our deaths as mere entertainment.

Autism is an extremely common ailment on this forum and yet I cannot name any other member even remotely like FC in their conduct. I mentioned previously that I had supported someone reverse a ban; it was someone with bipolar who made a bunch of unhinged posts in a state of mania but was deeply ashamed and regretful afterwards. FC, by contrast, would only ever repeat her attacks on others and then play the victim in response to backlash.

In summary, it has been sad and sobering to witness FC descend from a harmless, wounded personality to a destructive influence on the entire community. I just ask that everyone consider the good of all in the community and not fall into the trap of endlessly pandering to someone whose bleak personality is not compatible with any sort of community standards.

This is an excellent post.

 

[Life Is My Coffin]

Correct, we will reassess in a month's time

Disappointing cuz she's super annoying. Was kind of hoping it was permanent

35,000 posts of nothing but preaching how life is nothing but unending despair and how death is so great and perfect for everyone to embrace. Other times actually complaining about when people have something positive to say about their life as well

 

[Esokabat]

Having seen the update, I commend the admin team on making the responsible decision. I have long advocated that we should prioritise the wellbeing of the entire community, not just one person, but I didn't think it would ever happen.

Firstly, we do not need a prominent member espousing lunatic fringe attitudes and giving opponents of the website fodder to allege that we are a death cult. The sheer power of mass media and politicians has regularly threatened the existence of this website.

Secondly, there are entire groups who have been routinely intimidated and berated who will now feel much safer here; namely parents and anyone who is considering recovery at any level.

Over the years, FC's character underwent a startling descent from a melancholic young woman to a raging death fetishist who advocated for child suicide, threw tantrums against the very existence of the "recovery" forum (forgetting that her former self actually used it) and railed against anyone giving or receiving support not explicitly pertaining to death. If we treat the lives of others with any respect, this is dangerous online behaviour for a purportedly safe space.

She became increasingly unresponsive to feedback and largely stopped interacting with others beyond generic and mechanical commiserations, yet somehow always attracted a vocal cult following dedicating itself to excusing her behaviour. The claim was that her aggression was mere mental illness, that those offended by her attacks should just ignore and that she is 'just venting'. FC would artfully drop inflammatory posts then step back to watch the community descend into pages of heavy in-fighting. I felt that she viewed us, our lives and our deaths as mere entertainment.

Autism is an extremely common ailment on this forum and yet I cannot name any other member even remotely like FC in their conduct. I mentioned previously that I had supported someone reverse a ban; it was someone with bipolar who made a bunch of unhinged posts in a state of mania but was deeply ashamed and regretful afterwards. FC, by contrast, would only ever repeat her attacks on others and then play the victim in response to backlash.

In summary, it has been sad and sobering to witness FC descend from a harmless, wounded personality to a destructive influence on the entire community. I just ask that everyone consider the good of all in the community and not fall into the trap of endlessly pandering to someone whose bleak personality is not compatible with any sort of community standards.

OMG! Reading this I realized that I am not such a good communicator as these are exactly the points I wanted to make, but somehow could never organize my thoughts enough to write it down so beautifully. Great points. I even had the word "sect" in my mind, and it is not uncommon for strong narcissistic dividing personalities to attract a cult-like following. It is just human nature. I agree with every points you made. All this time, I thought I was the only one that sees her for who she is. I am pleasantly surprised that others can see what I see. Normally I just see comments from users that follow her like a sect leader and all the love fest. I am autistic and what she is does not define autism.

Disappointing cuz she's super annoying. Was kind of hoping it was permanent

35,000 posts of nothing but preaching how life is nothing but unending despair and how death is so great and perfect for everyone to embrace. Other times actually complaining about when people have something positive to say about their life as well

Agree.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Thank you, I didn't know this thread.

It's incredible how connected I feel to this person.
I'm not going to delve any further into this topic. I also no longer read the comments from certain people.
I think the existential purpose of some people is exactly what they do and that says a lot about them.
I'm not interested in these people.
I'm only interested in FC and I often think about her and wish that she could somehow get her valve diverted.

As she will be away for at least a month, I won't see her here again.
Thank you, FuneralCry, for being there.
Thank you for saying exactly what you said.
Thank you for saying it again and again.
You had not the slightest influence on my CTB decision, I came here just to research about methods.
But you gave me one of the most beautiful feelings, a feeling that was very rare in my life, if at all. The feeling of deep connection. And as I write this, tears are rolling down my face. No, it's not sadness. It's not tears of joy either. They are tears of understanding. They are tears of connection. It is a beautiful sadness. It is a deeply melancholic sense of joy.
A feeling that I will take with me on the bus. I will think about this feeling. And if I had to entrust only one person to be God, it would be you.
Because you are the opposite of even the slightest cruelty. You would not give cruelty the slightest chance to exist. And that's the only thing I feel is a valuable ideal.

You can tear my post apart. That's because I'll never look at this thread again. Because, unlike FC, I'm far too vulnerable. And I have no intention of letting these feelings get to me, so shortly before my CTB appointment.
I wish you all the best.

I relate to this. FC has also made me feel connected in the same way that you feel connected too. Just like you, I'm also interested in FC and not in what others have to say about her. We only have one life so why should I spend it being miserable at what FC's opponents have to say. It seems like, from now on, the people replying here are all hating on FC so I'm also not going to come back to this thread after I reply to you. At the end of the day, FC actually changed my life by making me not hate myself and even making me discover my true self. I will forever be grateful to her for this. Everybody else did nothing for me which means I'm not interested in them. Like you, I'm only interested in FC too.

I hope that both you and FC find peace soon. You both deserve it. I'm going to stop looking at this thread now

 

[kunikuzushi]

I don't know why but this hit me hard. I'll miss you FuneralCry. I wanted to read more of your thoughts.