is there a valid reason to kill yourself?

[hyuna]

do you guys think your reasoning for wanting to kys is valid? everytime i go to write my letter for my family i feel like my reasoning is stupid sounding.

 

[Yogih212]

Yes, my reasoning is valid. It's just really dumb it got to this. 1 mistake almost 1 year ago now, is leading me to going to CTB one of these coming days. As soon as I get my AE for my SN I can go ahead and CTB and finally make this pain and suffering stop. I am becoming more and more disabled by the day, and at times I feel this acceptance like okay, I'll let this unfold and trust the process, but other times, just no. I don't want my health situation to get even worse...

 

[hyuna]

Yes, my reasoning is valid. It's just really dumb it got to this. 1 mistake almost 1 year ago now, is leading me to going to CTB one of these coming days. As soon as I get my AE for my SN I can go ahead and CTB and finally make this pain and suffering stop. I am becoming more and more disabled by the day, and at times I feel this acceptance like okay, I'll let this unfold and trust the process, but other times, just no. I don't want my health situation to get even worse...

I hope everything gets better. If you dont mind can I ask what happened?

 

[Yogih212]

Of course, do you have discord by any chance? I think it's good if I keep that private for now from the forums.

 

[hurb]

You dont need a reason to be suicidal.
The fact there might not even be a reason is what makes this life even more cruel.

 

[Yogih212]

You dont need a reason to be suicidal.
The fact there might not even be a reason is what makes this life even more cruel.

I have never been suicidal myself before this health situation, if I didn't have this reason, I personally wouldn't. But that's the thing, I don't know how others stand in their life, how they truly feel about things, whether they get enjoyment from life and all these things. I can't account for that, no one can and it's selfish to say that one's problems aren't that big in my opinion, now that I know what it's like to really want to die.

 

[hyuna]

Of course, do you have discord by any chance? I think it's good if I keep that private for now from the forums.

of course thats understandable, its delicatenana

 

[Forveleth]

I do not think one needs a reason nor justification to kill themselves. If you no longer wish to live, that should be reason enough. It is the person's life and it should be their choice to end it.

 

[Macedonian1987]

I think I have a valid reasons to kill myself:

- I have Asperger's and I'm avoided by everyone even though I have been told that I'm a peaceful and good person
- Because of my Asperger's never had a single true friend in my entire life
- Never had a love life (I was told many times that I'm handsome when I was younger, but my autism f*cked my potential relationships)
- On top of it all I have numerous painful joints. I have a joints like a 70 year old even though I'm 38. This is getting worse as I age
- I have chronic fatigue, I'm always tired in the last 5-6 years.
- I'm sad and depressed all the time.

I think that I have pretty valid reasons to ctb, don't you think so?

 

[TwistedNightmares]

I believe my reasons are valid:

- My family literally do not care about me at all.
- No one in real life wants to talk to me. I am largely ignored and ridiculed for the most part.
- I suffer from CPTSD. I get constant nightmares every time I sleep, as well as occasional flashbacks during the day. Benzos do not help me. I can't get therapy.
- I don't enjoy life. Never have. I have severe anhedonia.
- I quite literally have no quality of life.

 

[LigottiIsRight]

The reasons for ctb or continue living are a deeply personal issue. Only oneself can experience one's life and judge its value.

 

[Unrequitedlife]

do you guys think your reasoning for wanting to kys is valid? everytime i go to write my letter for my family i feel like my reasoning is stupid sounding.

I'm not sure that i have reasons as such, i struggle with severe depression and anxiety which are situational and due to chemical imbalance. Although i am trying to manage it all with meds and therapy, i just have this continual and gnawing feeling that I'm just not supposed to be here and it is exhausting. I have been resisting acting on it for about the last three years mainly because of my children although the reality is they would grieve for a short time and then move on, as is human nature. But to go back to your orginal question, my feeling is that only one person needs to feel any reasoning is valid, and that person is ourselves. I believe if we are sure then the decision is ours to make but if we have any seed of doubt then we should try and battle on. But thats just how i feel about it.

 

[DeadManLiving]

What other choice is there

 

[Seneca65AD]

People always have reasons and rationales for killing themselves. For me, the question is whether they understand those reasons and rationales. I believe the vast majority of people want to understand why they feel the need to CTB, but that type of self-investigation takes a lot of work and can be very messy and energy sapping. For some, it's simply easier to exit without expending the energy to figure why or how one got to that point.

 

[LetMeOut67]

I think it's very obvious that life is a fate worse than death and a unbearable burden for some.

 

[BillyBob]

Do not fit in and I am tired/run down from my life it is no longer worth living.
Also we should have the option to opt out of life

 

[npC_0]

Sometimes I'm glad to come in here and read that I'm not the only one who thinks this, and especially to read the answers. It makes me feel "calm" in part, sometimes I feel bad, like you, writing letters or recording audios and I read them or listen to them and say, shit, they'll think I'm an idiot or feel bad. I think one of the main problems is that you never know if there's really a good reason, because supposedly there isn't. They say life is beautiful, but I don't see it as such.

 

[egyptian_baddie]

dont fit in society , unlovable ,lack of stable future, economy is in ruins in my country, no rights. just a complete failure of a person with no prospects of a good future.

 

[FuneralCry]

To me what could never be valid is imposing this torturous and dreadful existence that I just always saw as the most cruel mistake in the first place, to me the existence of life is the most terrible, dreadful tragedy that just causes harm and suffering with no limit as to how much one can be tortured.

What is so horrible to me is how humans actually choose to force this onto others, all that procreation does is harm and torture existing beings and there's just so much evil in existing with existing beings in agony every second. I'll just always see it as an abomination to suffer in this existence, to me existence is the problem and for me ceasing to exist would be the positive solution to find peace from the suffering, torture and evil of existing, for me ceasing to exist is suffering prevention and I'd only be relieved to never be tortured in this existence ever again, I just find it so horrific how the torture and agony of existing can continue for decades longer just for one to be tortured by old age.

 

[aesthetic]

i have more than enough valid reasons to kill myself.

 

[violetforever]

i feel like all of the bad in the world outweighs the good so thats enough reason.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

My reason is so valid that there's no need to even mention it in my note, but I will. My reason is 100% permanent, and I will never accept it.
Unpopular opinion: if it sounds stupid to you when you write it down, don't dismiss that. Sometimes the best way to get clarity on an issue is to write it down. That doesn't always give us the answer that we expect. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[TheCavernousDeep.]

do you guys think your reasoning for wanting to kys is valid? everytime i go to write my letter for my family i feel like my reasoning is stupid sounding.

Personally, I do think it's all context dependent. If you have lots of people who care about you, the impact will hurt them lots. I know this because I've had someone close to me kill themselves. Not everybody has that though, some people are more alone than others. But either way, only you can judge how this will impact the people who love you, how few or how many they are.

And then the other side of the coin is you. If you are suffering a lot and there seems like no hope for change, then suicide can seem like a good way to relieve suffering.

The morality of the act then lies in the relationship between those two things. Is the suffering you'll inflict on your parents greater than the suffering you'll relieve for yourself? If you're struggling to write the note, then it's possible the answer is no, or at least you're not sure yet. The convenient thing about suicide is you can always put it off, so there's no rush to choose.

As for me personally? No. My suicide is not morally correct. It will be a selfish act I take to escape pain. In truth I deserve to suffer, but my family? They don't deserve the pain that will come to them. If hell is real I certainly will go there, for how I chose to live and how I choose to die. But that is only me.

Why do you want to die?