Method Is starving to death a viable option to CTB ?

[Tarantula]

Dying of starvation takes alot longer than you would expect. It's also NOT painless, it is psychologically and physically agonizing, you will slowly lose your mind and constantly think about food 24/7. You will also probably faint and get rescued or end up reactive eating before you die. It's considered a non-method for a reason, it almost never works.

I've struggled with Anorexia Nervosa for years and I have also tried to kill myself via dry fasting when times were rough so I am speaking from personal experience. I can't force you to stop but this is not the way to go. Seek help or find a better method because this is not going to kill you as fast as you think it would

 

[MyLifeisHell]

Only if you're already extremely debilitated by something else in a controlled environment.

Otherwise not a chance. That is the myth of Tantalus made reality.

 

[JassieDusk]

No, this will not work. Even if it works it will be everything but not peaceful. I met many people with anorexia during my hospitalizations (as a recovered anorexic myself) who survive weeks or even months without anything, they eventually end up binging severely or force fed through a feeding tube in a closed psychiatric ward. A heard of a woman dying after her stomach ripped due to a binge after extreme starvation - the only death caused by this stuff that I know of. Save yourself the struggle.
If you're still considering this after everyone advising against it, I highly recommend reading the chapter of VSED (voluntary stopping eating and drinking) in the PPH.

 

[HangMan123]

Really? For now I really dont feel like eating anything and I'm already feeling a bit dizzy, so I'm sort of making progress?

No don't do it. You won't die. You'll be too out of it to not eat anything. And you have no idea how hungry you can get.
Plus, when you survive, you'll have incurred serious damage because your body starts eating itself (autophagy).

 

[zdeweilx]

Okay, I think I will try to choose another method since everyone tells me this is not a good one...

 

[Kiryu6877]

No offense but this is the dumbest CTB "method" ive read on here.

 

[thelostautistic]

As someone who has experience with a restrictive eating disorder I would not recommend. It will be a slow and painful way to go.

 

[EmptyBottle]

Someone in the UK actually went over 360 days without solid food he just survived on water and nutrients. Curious to know why you've chosen that when there's better faster methods? I've gone 10+ days without, I only lasted that long was because I'm an addict and the drugs to suppress my appetite. By the end I was so weak I could barely get out of bed even small movements were painful. When hypoglycemia hits it's brutal. Sweating, shaking dizziness and intense hunger cramps and that feels pretty damn awful your body is literally screaming at you to eat

Angus Barbieri had quite a high starting weight (and was monitored by doctors)... tho yes, he indeed lasted around a year.. (382 days)

 

[BillyBob]

Dying of starvation takes alot longer than you would expect. It's also NOT painless, it is psychologically and physically agonizing, you will slowly lose your mind and constantly think about food 24/7. You will also probably faint and get rescued or end up reactive eating before you die. It's considered a non-method for a reason, it almost never works.

I've struggled with Anorexia Nervosa for years and I have also tried to kill myself via dry fasting when times were rough so I am speaking from personal experience. I can't force you to stop but this is not the way to go. Seek help or find a better method because this is not going to kill you as fast as you think it would

Fully agree. I am suffering AN BP type for the past 5 years and it is a living hell. Your mind will constantly be thinking of food 24/7 and the urge to eat is very strong for the first 3-5 days without food.
Then after that your mind will start to go weird and then the pain will slowly set in.

Would not recommend starving to death for anyone at all.

 

[zdeweilx]

Day 3 update : I'm still hanging in but my head is starting to feel really heavy. My mouth smells really bad and it's so dry it almost hurts. I feel really weak, I don't know if I can last one more day but I'll try.
I've read all the messages advising against doing that but I'd still like to know what could happen if I push it until I reach my limit.

 

[EmptyBottle]

Day 3 update : I'm still hanging in but my head is starting to feel really heavy. My mouth smells really bad and it's so dry it almost hurts. I feel really weak, I don't know if I can last one more day but I'll try.
I've read all the messages advising against doing that but I'd still like to know what could happen if I push it until I reach my limit.

hmmm... check this quote out from someone who did smth similar... tho without water... it might as well be day 5-7 vs week ~7 or smth. There is a risk of permanent damage tho, if one pushes too far.

Week seven: I was no longer me. I say this is because you know how when a kid pretends he's a plane, he spreads his arms and pretends he's flying? I don't know if I really did that, or if I was dreaming, but for some reason, I'm convinced I actually did it.

At some point during this week, I got out of my sleeping bag, hiked back to that grocery store. The next thing I know, I open my eyes, I was laying in a hospital bed. I remember none of this, the getting up, the hiking, being at a store, or coming to the hospital.

 

[zdeweilx]

hmmm... check this quote out from someone who did smth similar... tho without water... it might as well be day 5-7 vs week ~7 or smth. There is a risk of permanent damage tho, if one pushes too far.

Damn that's kinda scary but I kinda want to experience this.
I don't know if I'll be able to go to sleep without eating tonight though, it's getting difficult

 

[Seneca65AD]

It's a method that can work - see Bobby Sands and a list of IRA members who did die from "hunger strikes" - it seems to cause death between 46 and 73 days depending on the person. There were a lot of others who tried and failed due to family members who intervened when the striker became unconscious. One defnitely has to be committed to this manner of CTB. Also, one would have to be in a jurisdiction that has "end of life" directives and will recognize "do not resuscitate" orders. At least a person will have plenty of time to back out if they lose the desire to CTB.

Edit: Obviously the above was done with water. Not sure of the stats on without water.

 

[eggsausagerice]

Damn that's kinda scary but I kinda want to experience this.
I don't know if I'll be able to go to sleep without eating tonight though, it's getting difficult

there really is no point to doing this if it's just going to cause suffering.

 

[slowlydying2mrrw]

I'm 48 hours in without ingesting a single calorie, could starving myself be a way to CTB painlessly ?

I will try to document my journey towards the final exit on this thread

You can live for 2-3 months without food. Depending on certain biometrics, you could go longer with water only. I think it was Kevin James (actor) who did a starvation fast of 8 months, no food; only had water, coffee, electrolytes and if I recall, vitamin supplementation, and lost a ton of weight, but lived. He talks about it on the Joe Rogan podcast if you are interested. Short answer is no, this method has a bad success rate unless you truly deprive yourself of all nutrients as your body can create it's own macronutrients (gluconeogensis/ketogensis). It just can't produce certain amino acids on it's own, so protein becomes necessary for living.

The starving yourself idea won't work unless you plan to remove liquids.

Did you already try it ?

I get it, thank you, but I'm too much of a coward to try a on/off method. I need something that is long and progressive. Otherwise I'll never succeed I'm afraid

If this really can be all over in less than 1 month, this is enough motivation for me to keep going

It's called science and survivor's stories of people who should've died in extreme survival conditions. People who have survived being shipped wreck off seas/oceans have lived for several months to a year stranded in the elements of the ocean, with almost no food sources.

If your brain doesn't kick in and you subconsciously drink salt water (small doses of salt water, not ocean water) for electrolytes, you live another day from starvation.

It would be scientifically faster to deprive yourself of liquids for 4 days.

It's a method that can work - see Bobby Sands and a list of IRA members who did die from "hunger strikes" - it seems to cause death between 46 and 73 days depending on the person. There were a lot of others who tried and failed due to family members who intervened when the striker became unconscious. One defnitely has to be committed to this manner of CTB. Also, one would have to be in a jurisdiction that has "end of life" directives and will recognize "do not resuscitate" orders. At least a person will have plenty of time to back out if they lose the desire to CTB.

Edit: Obviously the above was done with water. Not sure of the stats on without water.

scientifically, it takes 2-3 months to starve to death. variables include why. A hunger strike can kill anyone going through it. It's how you manage your stress/biometrics. You could also get stranded in the Amazon forest or pacific ocean for months and still live from starvation.

Dying of starvation takes alot longer than you would expect. It's also NOT painless, it is psychologically and physically agonizing, you will slowly lose your mind and constantly think about food 24/7. You will also probably faint and get rescued or end up reactive eating before you die. It's considered a non-method for a reason, it almost never works.

I've struggled with Anorexia Nervosa for years and I have also tried to kill myself via dry fasting when times were rough so I am speaking from personal experience. I can't force you to stop but this is not the way to go. Seek help or find a better method because this is not going to kill you as fast as you think it would

This is probably the worst part of starvation as a method. You will literally suffer psychologically and hallucinate while fighting the urge to eat. Somewhere along the way, the brain will subconsciously try to eat or find nutrition.

Interesting enough, it can take as much as a soda to ruin this method. Sugar is still food to the body even if we aren't eating our calories.