Is SN PAINFUL

[freelifexit]

How have you not been banned yet? You pop up in every SN thread to try and scare the shit out of the OP.

You can team up with other SN fanatics and ask admin to create a rule that forbids any criticism of SN:

- The spread of any negative information about SN is equated with fear mongering and betrayal of the forum.
- Ban all those who disagree, or even better, shoot them.

An ideal world for SN fanatics, very similar to fascist censorship and totalitarianism. "Praise the great SN and don't you dare criticize it. Hooray!".

 

[👁️👃👁️]

You can team up with other SN fanatics and ask admin to create a rule that forbids any criticism of SN:

- The spread of any negative information about SN is equated with fear mongering and betrayal of the forum.
- Ban all those who disagree, or even better, shoot them.

An ideal world for SN fanatics, very similar to fascist censorship and totalitarianism. "Praise the great SN and don't you dare criticize it. Hooray!".

Hanging can lead to brain damage and being paralyzed, be careful. Forgot to mention! ACTUAL SUFFOCATION.

 

[Mofreeko]

You can team up with other SN fanatics and ask admin to create a rule that forbids any criticism of SN:

- The spread of any negative information about SN is equated with fear mongering and betrayal of the forum.
- Ban all those who disagree, or even better, shoot them.

An ideal world for SN fanatics, very similar to fascist censorship and totalitarianism. "Praise the great SN and don't you dare criticize it. Hooray!".

The vast majority of people on here freely share the TRUE negatives of SN. You push tons of misleading and outright FALSE info about it. Fuck me. This is the last time I unignore you to respond to your lunacy.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

The vast majority of people on here freely share the TRUE negatives of SN. You push tons of misleading and outright FALSE info about it. Fuck me. This is the last time I unignore you to respond to your lunacy.

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[freelifexit]

The vast majority of people on here freely share the TRUE negatives of SN. You push tons of misleading and outright FALSE info about it. Fuck me. This is the last time I unignore you to respond to your lunacy.

I provided links to real posts. Don't understand why you call it false info. Maybe you just want to hide negative information about SN from people and call it FALSE to mislead people.

In any case, you don't have to be very smart to understand that the cases I mentioned are real.

 

[Mofreeko]

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lol

 

[Sersilv1]

You can team up with other SN fanatics and ask admin to create a rule that forbids any criticism of SN:

- The spread of any negative information about SN is equated with fear mongering and betrayal of the forum.
- Ban all those who disagree, or even better, shoot them.

An ideal world for SN fanatics, very similar to fascist censorship and totalitarianism. "Praise the great SN and don't you dare criticize it. Hooray!".

So which way would you suggest ?

 

[freelifexit]

Hope he's just a troll

You asked "how painful It could be at worst", I provided you worst cases. They are real, links attached.

 

[Sersilv1]

You asked "how painful It could be at worst", I provided you worst cases. They are real, links attached.

Ok, and now i am asking which method Is the best in your opinion, besides SN

 

[freelifexit]

Ok, and now i am asking which method Is the best in your opinion, besides SN

I'm not trying to dissuade you from the method, I just answered your question about the worst case . Each method has its drawbacks, each person chooses for himself.

When someone criticizes SN, there are always fanatics who react very emotionally, even insulting the opponent. You can see it in this case too. However, they like to create a false positive image of SN and will do everything to protect it. They are just fanatics, nothing can be done about it. Do not pay attention.

As usual communicating with them is a waste of time, so I will no longer respond to their comments.

What took the cake for me is he posted an "SN" study from russia that wasn't even about SN it was some other chemical.

It was about SN, you can check it by yourself, use google translate. Link was provided.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

I provided links to real posts. Don't understand why you call it false info. Maybe you just want to hide negative information about SN from people and call it FALSE to mislead people.

In any case, you don't have to be very smart to understand that the cases I mentioned are real.

Again the only thing that you do is provide the worst case scenarios possible half the time these cases are of people who didn't even follow the protocol to begin with. Then you go on to fear monger and mention that there are people that are possibly brain dead that couldn't come on here to tell us with no evidence whatsoever. It's always fear mongering. You never once share the cases of people who had a peaceful experience or the cases of people who came back to explain that it was peaceful. You are not intending to educate people you are intending to scare people it's clear as day and it has been since day one. For example the time you posted the study about pigs and responded "Scary isn't it?" Or something like that. Again for the 100th time you were taking the one method that is easily available to most people that has the least damage in terms of survival and are putting a magnifying glass over and trying to make it as scary as possible. How about we talk about the method that you are choosing? Hanging? The method that can literally leave you paralyzed and brain dead? I'm ignoring you and I'm ignoring this thread I'm getting sick of seeing it.

 

[ge0rge]

oh i knew what this thread was going to be before i even clicked the title :p

 

[iltloml]

I'm not trying to dissuade you from the method, I just answered your question about the worst case . Each method has its drawbacks, each person chooses for himself.

When someone criticizes SN, there are always fanatics who react very emotionally, even insulting the opponent. You can see it in this case too. However, they like to create a false positive image of SN and will do everything to protect it. They are just fanatics, nothing can be done about it. Do not pay attention.

As usual communicating with them is a waste of time, so I will no longer respond to their comments.

It was about SN, you can check it by yourself, use google translate. Link was provided.

You are missing the point. The only thing you comment on this website is about how bad SN is. That signals an agenda.

 

[October112021]

From everything I've read, SN is uncomfortable. It isn't pleasant. It's not agonizingly painful, but it doesn't feel good. It isn't painless the same way a fentanyl overdose or N are.

 

[akirat9]

personally, physical pain is nothing compared to mental agony
at least physical can be healed, the other cannot

 

[Nikki2020]

You asked "how painful It could be at worst", I provided you worst cases. They are real, links attached.

I looked at your posts. you seem to post the negative to every single method. of course there is negative to everything. but it just makes me wonder if you understand how frustrating it is for those of us wanting to ctb. :( why are you here? are you suffering with suicide ideation? or are you here against it? cuz its hard enough for us.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I think you can imagine that not being able to breathe (insufficient oxygen) would bring with it some type of discomfort, to say the least.

Sodium nitrite is a powerful oxidizing agent that causes hypotension and limits oxygen transport and delivery in the body through the formation of methemoglobin. Clinical manifestations can include cyanosis, hypoxia, altered consciousness, dysrhythmias, and death.

 

[Mofreeko]

I think you can imagine that not being able to breathe (insufficient oxygen) would bring with it some type of discomfort, to say the least.

Sodium nitrite is a powerful oxidizing agent that causes hypotension and limits oxygen transport and delivery in the body through the formation of methemoglobin. Clinical manifestations can include cyanosis, hypoxia, altered consciousness, dysrhythmias, and death.

SN doesn't keep oxygen from getting from your lungs into your blood, it inhibits oxygen from getting from your blood into your tissue cells. You should be able to breathe fine. All the reports of people snoring, snorting, gasping, ect I've read have been after the person fell unconscious, which is to be expected. Look up death rattle.

 

[Nikki2020]

SN doesn't keep oxygen from getting from your lungs into your blood, it inhibits oxygen from getting from your blood into your tissue cells. You should be able to breathe fine. All the reports of people snoring, snorting, gasping, ect I've read have been after the person fell unconscious, which is to be expected. Look up death rattle.

i hope you're right. this thread has me scared.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

SN doesn't keep oxygen from getting from your lungs into your blood, it inhibits oxygen from getting from your blood into your tissue cells. You should be able to breathe fine.

What do you think the tissue in your lungs are comprised of, Oreo cookies? It is compised of cells. You won't be able to breathe fine. You should do some more reading on how SN causes death.



Sodium nitrite is a powerful oxidizing agent that causes hypotension and limits oxygen transport and delivery in the body through the formation of methemoglobin. Clinical manifestations can include cyanosis, hypoxia, altered consciousness, dysrhythmias, and death.


Hypoxia: Hypoxia is low levels of oxygen in your body tissues. It causes symptoms like confusion, restlessness, difficulty breathing, rapid heart rate, and bluish skin.


Symptoms Of Central Cyanosis: breathlessness, shortness of breath, bluish or purple discolouration of the oral mucous membranes, rapid and shallow breathing, etc.

 

[Mofreeko]

What do you think the tissue in your lungs are comprised of, Oreo cookies? It is compised of cells. You won't be able to breathe fine. You should do some more reading on how SN causes death.



Sodium nitrite is a powerful oxidizing agent that causes hypotension and limits oxygen transport and delivery in the body through the formation of methemoglobin. Clinical manifestations can include cyanosis, hypoxia, altered consciousness, dysrhythmias, and death.


Hypoxia: Hypoxia is low levels of oxygen in your body tissues. It causes symptoms like confusion, restlessness, difficulty breathing, rapid heart rate, and bluish skin.


Symptoms Of Central Cyanosis: breathlessness, shortness of breath, bluish or purple discolouration of the oral mucous membranes, rapid and shallow breathing, etc.

In a process called diffusion, oxygen moves from the alveoli in the lungs to the blood through the capillaries (tiny blood vessels) lining the alveolar walls. SN doesn't impede that process. I don't know what happens when your lung tissue is literally dying from lack of oxygen, but the brain is way more sensitive from lack of oxygen than your other organs so you should be unconscious well before it matters. Stop just copy pasting SN poisoning symptoms without knowing what they really mean please.

 

[Dot]

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[Venus13]

I appreciate SN for what it does, reliably kills you when you take the right dose and there's no intervention. You'll drink down the SN knowing times up. Hanging leaves you in fear of becoming a vegetable and the consequences of a failed gunshot is even worse.

I think SN is scary. Maybe I'm sensitive but I feel my body will freak the fuck out for 20 minutes because I have a traumatized nervous system. The vomiting and intense nausea is a horrid final experience. I hate nausea, almost have a phobia of it. Just shit all the way. The supporting meds only do so much. Still, 20 minutes of potential bullshit or so many more years of horror. I won't drink it until those 20 minutes are nothing compared to the life I'm leading.

N is superior in every way. I still appreciate SN for what it can do when N is simply impossible to get.

 

[leeloosnow]

You can control all unpleasant side effects by medication. Paracetamol/ibuprofen for pain, propranolol for increased heart rate, benzocaine lozenges for bad taste, benzodiazepines for panic. Then it becomes very smooth.

from my obsessive evenings of sn reading and planning, agree. i will use propanolol, benzos, and polish the plans/privacy/timing, seems to make a big difference with overcoming SI, staying calm and comfortable, and getting the ctb success i really want.
sn is intimidating because of the anxiety factor causing panic, noise, discomfort. i think it's uncomfortable but depending on how individuals deal with emotional/physical distress, it's a better option for me. i don't think it's nearly as outright painful as some other methods and it's a good success rate esp with meds/plans.

 

[Cryptonite]

from my obsessive evenings of sn reading and planning, agree. i will use propanolol, benzos, and polish the plans/privacy/timing, seems to make a big difference with overcoming SI, staying calm and comfortable, and getting the ctb success i really want.
sn is intimidating because of the anxiety factor causing panic, noise, discomfort. i think it's uncomfortable but depending on how individuals deal with emotional/physical distress, it's a better option for me. i don't think it's nearly as outright painful as some other methods and it's a good success rate esp with meds/plans.

Definitely. Also, SN stands out in terms of safety. In case of failure, long-term damage is rare. Contrary to e. g. jumping, where long-term damage is almost guaranteed.

 

[wljourney]

Here is the worst cases:

Post in thread 'I've tried SN & it's not for me. Been researching. First post btw!'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...researching-first-post-btw.96193/post-1681369

"Excruciating headache, vomiting, felt like my heart was gonna beat out of my chest - like my pulse from my neck felt like it was gonna burst. Not peaceful at all. Not how they say. I also couldn't walk & needed help."

Thread 'Snorting sn'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/snorting-sn.86951/

"I tried s n it was the most pain I've ever been in
In my life so much vomiting and pain if I snort it instead will it go straight into my blood stream I can't go through that pain again when it didn't even work"

Thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/

"Moonicide: 25g in luke warm water drank - after 10 minutes breathing heavily, gasping for air, sounds like choking.

Chat room: 25g, burning throat, breathing slowly, 20 minutes after ingesting vomited violent, sounds indicated it became a very tough experience, horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing,

Kukubananas : cannot breathe

timetogo:, throat warm, heaving but not vomiting, do not feel nauseous, hands falling asleep, pain, vomiting swallow back, cannot breathe."

Post in thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/post-1383070

"So I went to bed thinking I would fall asleep and ctb but instead I went through 4 hours of hell like suffocating. I didn't throw up at all a bit nauseous was all. I took 1000 mg naproxen before but at the end I got the worst headache of my life."

Also recommend you to read this

SS – Non-Fatal Sodium Nitrite (SN / NaNO2) Attempts: Member Methods & Experiences

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Ok, I am sure someone else has done the legwork already but here goes...

Example 1:
did not follow Stan's guide, did not take antiemetics, did not take propranolol to manage rapid heart beat.

Asked if he followed Stan's guide he wrote: "Well honestly, no. I'd say that even if I had anti nausea meds it wouldn't take away the heartbeat problem. That was my biggest issue. I thought about following the method but I felt like I could handle the nausea & I did, but the heartbeat thing was what did it for me."

Lesson: Follow Stan's Guide

Example 2:
Took Buccastem (not bad, but not as effective as Meto) and admitted later that he has an EXTREMELY sensitive stomach AND that he vomitted likely most of the solution out after drinking and did not have a backup glass "... I will say this though I have an extremely sensitive stomach and started throwing up within 5 mins of taking it so I don't know how much stayed in my body..."

Lesson: Follow Stan's Guide

Example 3:
These experience reports from others who watched/listened people die from SN describe to a large part the "death rattle" and simply what happens when you are dying. Most of this heavy breathing and gasping happens when you are already unconscious (or within 5 minutes before blacking out).

Don't get me wrong. Dying is NEVER pretty and it can be quite traumatic for someone who has never seen a person die to watch this. Many of these reports also say that the person seemed already unconscious (yes, you can vomit while unconscious).

The feeling of "I can't breathe" is also not necessarily proof that they truly couldn't breathe, but that their blood oxygenation had dropped to under 80%. That's when your brain starts to sound the alarm and makes you take deeper breaths, speeds up your heart in order to transport enough oxygen to your cells.

It actually only feels like "you can't breathe" for a few minutes. Less than 5 in fact (I received an IV drug at the ER that I was allergic to. Felt like I couldnt breathe, started to take deeper breaths, got disoriented and blacked out within 5 minutes. All I felt was dizziness and the need to open a window or go outside (which of course I couldn't).
All this was not painful at all. It was just a weird sensation and I was out before I even realized what was happening.

Example 4:
Says he took 30g but survived. He did not clarify the purity of the product or the source. I highly suspect that he used curing salt (Which contains only 4-6% SN). So out of those 30g only 1.5-2g were actually SN. The rest was table salt.

While 2g SN can kill a person (especially if small/frail), it also explains why he felt so sick and miserable, why his breathing was difficult (his oxygen levels apparently dropped far enough to give him all the symptoms) but he recovered.

Lesson: Follow Stan's Guide and make sure you buy the correct product

When someone criticizes SN, there are always fanatics who react very emotionally, even insulting the opponent. You can see it in this case too. However, they like to create a false positive image of SN and will do everything to protect it.

Follow up.

I think it is important to give people ALL of the information.
Glorification of SN is unfair to those who are considering it.
Same goes for only pointing out what could go wrong.

People should have access to every part, positive or negative, if they want to make an informed decision.

That also requires them to understand what SN does, how it affects your body, your breathing, your blood oxygenation etc etc.

I think if anyone wants to be taken seriously, they should provide objective information. That includes pros and cons. It includes success stories, but also stories of people who failed (and WHY they likely failed).

 

[leeloosnow]

a big factor for me is that i know thru research and experience first hand that a buildup of co2 in the body as one cannot breathe during an external mechanism (like drowning, choking, suffocation) causes the more acute panic response by triggering the sympathetic nervous, fight-or-flight system in the body. as sn creates hypoxia by converting hemeglobin to methemeglobin which can't carry 02, but still allows exhale co2, it's less stressful for that factor. also the physical ability to breathe, despite the physical symptoms of the actual hypoxia happening before unconsciousness, it could be said potentially less stressful but potentially uncomfortable. that's a similar idea with some methods of hanging, or nitrogen hoods, reducing time/distress between hypoxia and unconsciousness. i think w/sn my success will be better and if unsuccessful, less severe consequences.

 

[wljourney]

a big factor for me is that i know thru research and experience first hand that a buildup of co2 in the body as one cannot breathe during an external mechanism (like drowning, choking, suffocation) causes the more acute panic response by triggering the sympathetic nervous, fight-or-flight system in the body. as sn creates hypoxia by converting hemeglobin to methemeglobin which can't carry 02, but still allows exhale co2, it's less stressful for that factor. also the physical ability to breathe, despite the physical symptoms of the actual hypoxia happening before unconsciousness, it could be said potentially less stressful but potentially uncomfortable. that's a similar idea with some methods of hanging, or nitrogen hoods, reducing time/distress between hypoxia and unconsciousness. i think w/sn my success will be better and if unsuccessful, less severe consequences.

Absolutely.

I agree that SN is probably one of the most peaceful ways to go. Apart from the fact that you have to stomach a glass of salt water that may make you sick to your stomach. Anyone who knows severe anxiety, knows what a racing heart feels like. Nausea and headaches from Migraines or anxiety attacks are not uncommon either.

IMO the SN method (when just looking at how it works on your body/blood/brain is similar to Carbon monoxide poisonings, which are quite peaceful, considering that many people each year die accidentally from leaking CO into their homes. And they don't even realize it, until they either get sick and call an ambulance or die in their sleep.

 

[Sersilv1]

Absolutely.

I agree that SN is probably one of the most peaceful ways to go. Apart from the fact that you have to stomach a glass of salt water that may make you sick to your stomach. Anyone who knows severe anxiety, knows what a racing heart feels like. Nausea and headaches from Migraines or anxiety attacks are not uncommon either.

IMO the SN method (when just looking at how it works on your body/blood/brain is similar to Carbon monoxide poisonings, which are quite peaceful, considering that many people each year die accidentally from leaking CO into their homes. And they don't even realize it, until they either get sick and call an ambulance or die in their sleep.

Do you think i could do this in the night while everyone Is sleeping?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Stop just copy pasting SN poisoning symptoms without knowing what they really mean please.

I understand quite well what they mean. They mean exactly what they state. I typed them out and enlarged them for emphasis. You have no idea if you will reach unconsciousness before these symptoms start. If you knew that, you would be God. You are doing others a disservice by not sharing all of the possible effects that may be experience, including difficulty breathing. ALL information should ALWAYS be provided so one can make the best possible decision for their needs. I don't mention these to talk anyone out of anything. Information is the key to making informed decisions, and anything less than that, from you, or anyone else, is disingenuous at best. Unless you have actually CTB and then came back to describe what you want through, you have absolutely no idea how it would feel to CTB on SN. Now, I don't either, to be quite honest, but when numerous trustworthy websites tell you pretty much the same thing, I;'ll take their word over yours, any day.