Is N ethical?

[justpeachy]

Go to college. Take an entry level economics course. There's no shortage created by someone buying N.

I have a Masters therefore I went to graduate school. I'm good, thanks. And where on earth did I imply in this comment there was a shortage of N???? I think you may be the one who should go to college. I made a comment about ethics which was just an example as someone who has sold it was in the vet profession. It was not meant to be taken literally. It was just an example of why ethics is subjective bud.

aww don't hurt my feelings pweeeeaseeee

I would think if your posting on an open forum you aren't expecting people to mind their own business. thats common sense i would think or no one would be making any posts lmao

Its not paranoia, its just easy to point out BS posts by people that are really shit at lying. you keep asking questions and as they are having to lie they always slip up. members who tell the truth don't have to do that. but i'll keep pointing these things out so the genuine members can see, i can tell how much the people posting BS get upset. they always claim people are attacking them blah blah.

Its funny as they think this type of shit hasn't happened b4 on here, we had it all before with jeremy the nonce and his fake profiles. always claiming he was being attacked and posting bullshit and not liking being questioned, eventually the pro-lifers opened their arms to the nonce and took him into their group(says alot about them)

yeah i know some people have lives outside this site.if i was the pro-lifers i'd just stick to visiting there kids graves if i was them, thats all they are useful for

yeah loads have people have contacted A and spoke to him in the last few months i'm sure. where you get that info people posting on here?? like i said a moderator posted about A not being in business anymore and hasn't been replying to emails or collecting money from his wallet. i kind of believe them more than you. i'll leave other genuine members to make there decision though.

you said people have purchased from A within the last 3 months, if you notice i quoted what you said in a previous post. but A hasn't been selling within the last 3 months,i haven't seen all these posts by people that have bought from A in the las t3 months? and as you aren't on here all the time i wouldn't of thought you would know about them all either??

so you said this "Also, you really think every person that tries to get N in Mexico contacts the PPH and tells their experience? I mean come on you can't be this dense…." know of course they don't ithey all come on here and post about it on here, iand i'm meant to believe them like you do.

who are the several scammers the the pph have listed??????? I think you'll find there was one person who was listed and was selling legit stuff but then became a scammer. his details were then removed from it, hence why they update the book constantly. just like they updated it recently to say A no longer sells and just like the added a scam site site being touted around here by members.

You need to read my comments a bit better. I never said I bought from A in the last months. I said that I've seen posts of people buying from A in the last 90 days.



How exactly does it make me dense to ask you that? I asked you that because you make the PPH out to be like this all knowing bible that is infallible to any sort of error. This all started because I choose to not disregard every post here as a lie but every update by the PPH as the almighty truth. Someone else already posted several of the irregularities that have come from the PPH. As you could see there are definitely not just one of them, there has been many "mistakes" that ultimately could have been really bad for the population of people they serve (50+ yrs old who are already at risk of being scammed in general). In all, I just don't see how anyone can think the PPH is the end all and be all of answers but write everyone off but the mods (who mostly all were normal members before they applied and got a mod position) as liars? It just seems odd to me.

As a parent myself I don't think it's very funny to tell a grieving parents that they are only good for going to their dead child's grave…that's unneeded. Some of their behavior has been unnecessary too but there's absolutely no reason to say something like that besides to be flat out cruel to someone who just lost their child. I don't know any parent that wouldn't react the same to their child's death.

 

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I have a Masters therefore I went to graduate school. I'm good, thanks. And where on earth did I imply in this comment there was a shortage of N???? I think you may be the one who should go to college. I made a comment about ethics which was just an example as someone who has sold it was in the vet profession. It was not meant to be taken literally. It was just an example of why ethics is subjective bud.

You need to read my comments a bit better. I never said I bought from A in the last months. I said that I've seen posts of people buying from A in the last 90 days.



How exactly does it make me dense to ask you that? I asked you that because you make the PPH out to be like this all knowing bible that is infallible to any sort of error. This all started because I choose to not disregard every post here as a lie but every update by the PPH as the almighty truth. Someone else already posted several of the irregularities that have come from the PPH. As you could see there are definitely not just one of them, there has been many "mistakes" that ultimately could have been really bad for the population of people they serve (50+ yrs old who are already at risk of being scammed in general). In all, I just don't see how anyone can think the PPH is the end all and be all of answers but write everyone off but the mods (who mostly all were normal members before they applied and got a mod position) as liars? It just seems odd to me.

As a parent myself I don't think it's very funny to tell a grieving parents that they are only good for going to their dead child's grave…that's unneeded. Some of their behavior has been unnecessary too but there's absolutely no reason to say something like that besides to be flat out cruel to someone who just lost their child. I don't know any parent that wouldn't react the same to their child's death.

the PPH is listed on this site as a legit source of information. its the moderators who uploaded it and the owners who are willing to have the information on the site. lots of mistakes???? mistakes in what? all the information on how to ctb is legit and if followed correctly will result in death, If people choose to not foollow the information correctly that isn't a failure of the methods ,its a failure by the person to do it correctly.

Its perfectly fine if you don't want to follow the pph, are you saying you would rather follow what random strangers post on the internet instead? that would be your choice and perfectly fine if you choose that, but i would advise just believing what a person writes on an internet forum being gospel would be very stupid. i personally will stick to the resources and information provided by the site owners and moderators as we know they are legit or they wouldn't't be posted on here. but obviously members of this site can decide what they want for themselves.

I mean only the other week a moderator proved how a site being mentioned was a listed scammer. the same moderator posted the pph on here, i think that says alot myself.

I'm not interested in them grieving parents and their feelings, just like they aren't bothered about the members on here and their mental health, mocking them, antagonising them, wishing them to suffer in pain. if you can't take it don't give it i say, if they left us alone then then there wouldn't be an issue, also they wouldn't have to read the abuse if they weren't on the site, its pretty simple really.

you know what yes a person might react to childs death and seek out revenge, but they aren't attacking just one person on here they are attacking everyone, that also includes terminally ill people who have nothing to do with mental health issues. If they want to get SN banned or taken down off sites thats upto them, but the moment they step on here and mock people, try to cause people pain, antagonise people, provide misinformation, manipulate hope people suffer then they become fair game and its laughable if they start crying because they get abused. there fucking bullies, well i'll give them a little heads up not all members on here sit in a corner crying alday(i don't have an issue if people didd this and do suffer) but as they don't understand mental health or other issues it unsurprising they thought we were easy targets

the simple answer would be to leave us alone and if the want to try stopping things being on sale blah blah do it in their own groups, and not on here

 

[justpeachy]

the PPH is listed on this site as a legit source of information. its the moderators who uploaded it and the owners who are willing to have the information on the site. lots of mistakes???? mistakes in what? all the information on how to ctb is legit and if followed correctly will result in death, If people choose to not foollow the information correctly that isn't a failure of the methods ,its a failure by the person to do it correctly.

Its perfectly fine if you don't want to follow the pph, are you saying you would rather follow what random strangers post on the internet instead? that would be your choice and perfectly fine if you choose that, but i would advise just believing what a person writes on an internet forum being gospel would be very stupid. i personally will stick to the resources and information provided by the site owners and moderators as we know they are legit or they wouldn't't be posted on here. but obviously members of this site can decide what they want for themselves.

I mean only the other week a moderator proved how a site being mentioned was a listed scammer. the same moderator posted the pph on here, i think that says alot myself.

I'm not interested in them grieving parents and their feelings, just like they aren't bothered about the members on here and their mental health, mocking them, antagonising them, wishing them to suffer in pain. if you can't take it don't give it i say, if they left us alone then then there wouldn't be an issue, also they wouldn't have to read the abuse if they weren't on the site, its pretty simple really.

you know what yes a person might react to childs death and seek out revenge, but they aren't attacking just one person on here they are attacking everyone, that also includes terminally ill people who have nothing to do with mental health issues. If they want to get SN banned or taken down off sites thats upto them, but the moment they step on here and mock people, try to cause people pain, antagonise people, provide misinformation, manipulate hope people suffer then they become fair game and its laughable if they start crying because they get abused. there fucking bullies, well i'll give them a little heads up not all members on here sit in a corner crying alday(i don't have an issue if people didd this and do suffer) but as they don't understand mental health or other issues it unsurprising they thought we were easy targets

the simple answer would be to leave us alone and if the want to try stopping things being on sale blah blah do it in their own groups, and not on here

How do two wrongs make a right? You are no better then they are now. You are doing exactly what they do. Attempting to hurt people going through pain.

 

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How do two wrongs make a right? You are no better then they are now. You are doing exactly what they do. Attempting to hurt people going through pain.

exactly two wrongs don't make a right. but if they are going to do it then so am i. i'm not claiming to be morally right.

yes just as they are attempting to cause pain and distress to members on here, they actually should no better as they have seen what can happen to people with metal health problems or other issues.

what they have in my case is not the stereotypical suicidal person that they think is an easy target, they have someone who can fight back. and they don't like that. seriously there are so many different types of people with so many different issues, and as i pointed out on another thread it just shows how little they understand the members and why they should leave us alone. i'm not being funny but some people are fucking pyscopaths who have mental health, i watched a documentary the other day on guy he stuck knifes through people heads! so it isn't really wise to antagonise people. then you have people that got to work and seem perfectly normal to most others but still feel suicicdal. I'm not going to start explain all the different types and reasons as i would be here forever.

A key thing to remember is they attacked this site first not the other way round, and as far as i'm aware there are no anti stop SS groups. there is proven posts of these groups members wishing members on here of being in pain, I can guarantee at no point did any member do that to their child, so again they should no better than to do it to another persons parents child.

they can want revenge or whatever but stick to their FB pages or getting stuff taken down from sites, that doesn't bother me at all. its the minute they stepped onto this site and tried to attack people and cause distress to them they crossed the line. i'm not vulnerable believe me, i will absolutely destroy anyone ho tries to attack me and have no issues in things i will say(within the rules of course, i'm not saying its right but someone tries to antagonise me i will go next level on them. thats why no1 has ever bullied me, i can stick up for myself and have always been able to protect myself and will stick up for genuine members of this forum who are less able to stick up for themselves

anyway were going off topic in this thread about this, so i will stop there.

seriously if they all just left and left us alone there would be no discussion to be had its really that simple. they wouldn't get abused or at least wouldn't be here to read anything, they can have goops on fb or whatever and try to get things banned, fine. just don't try and antagonise people, hurt and manipulate others.

Like i haven't gone on their sites and attacked them and said the stufff i have on here which i could of, because i can't be arsed and see no point. but on here its different.