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FawnSong

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Apologies for the meandering nature of this post. I am trying to get out a lot of unconnected thoughts at once.

I would like to establish expectations by saying I am not actively suicidal and am not possessed by an overwhelming urge to die. But I am filled with despair and anticipatory grief whenever I step outside my home and it makes me think killing myself would be, in some ways, more merciful than continuing to watch all the beautiful things in the world wither and die.

I moved to my current location a decade ago, give or take a few years. It used to be a nice place to live and many could argue it is still better than other locations. But everywhere I go, there is decay and decline. There is more graffiti, more petty crime such as stealing which has led to the introduction of those plastic 'anti theft' devices in supermarkets, more litter, more poverty, more food banks, more open displays of despair, etc.

This also applies to companies. New building constructions are ubiquitous in how ugly and cheaply made they are, and yet they are some of the most expensive houses ever. Absolutely no attempt is made to have these buildings blend in with existing structures (I live in a place with lots of historical buildings) and they are invariably cluttered with the generic 'minimalist' beige/ grey/ white aesthetic that I have come to loathe. It's the equivalent of living inside a wafer. This aesthetic choice has bled into many of the franchises and eateries in the area; all share the same inoffensive colour scheme and have replaced their formerly comfortable chairs with cheap, ugly, and uncomfortable plastic that scream 'pay and get out'. I no longer enjoy window shopping or spending an afternoon in a cafe because most of them are so 'samey' and implicitly hostile now.

To get away from such depressing surroundings, I like to go hiking or spend time in nature with no people around. I am someone who values the environment, but I find that even going to various nature parks or hiking areas can bring out these feelings of anticipatory loss and sadness. Certain routes are being destroyed due to coastal erosion, certain monuments or landmarks will not be there in a few decades, the threat of climate change means many animal and bird and insect species native to this area will struggle or become extinct, etc. I also have to take care to avoid popular routes because of overcrowding and the knowledge that I would be further contributing to the decline of that area if I chose to visit.

Part of me wants to go out and enjoy things while they still exist. Another part just wants to stay at home so I don't have to deal with the strong negative emotions that seeing these social changes brings out in me. Even if you are someone who shuns the outside world to stay online, I've noticed more and more paywalls are being put up in areas that were once free to access. Various news sites or websites, apps, the constant shoving of subscriptions into everything, the increasing inability for things to exist without the creator trying to monetise it, etc (for the record, I do not blame people for trying to make more money in this increasingly difficult living environment. I just find it depressing). Everything is more expensive and you get far less for your money than you once did.

Speaking of finances, it is also increasingly difficult to get and maintain a job. I really feel for teenagers and young people graduating into this utterly atrocious job market—all the entry level grad jobs, the part time retail positions, the warehouse jobs, the ones people are 'supposed' to do for a few years and then move on from, have effectively vanished in my area. I work in a field which was once considered 'recession proof' and 'a job for life' but that all changed a few months after I entered this field, and I'm one of the lucky ones because I got a job whilst many of my fellow graduates really struggled. But even that is cold comfort, for I work in a niche field with few opportunities to transfer these skills elsewhere and I genuinely think I would be screwed if I was laid off or fired. I have no emotional or support network whatsoever so this is a very legitimate concern.

When all these things are taken together (and I haven't even touched upon other threats such as AI), I really struggle to see myself surviving long enough to die of natural causes. It feels like my future will feature me dying of climate change induced issues (such as heatstroke), war (over basic things like food and water which are becoming increasingly expensive), tropical illnesses/ antibiotic-resistant bugs, starvation (from being unemployed with no safety net because I do not believe UBI will ever be established or would even be a good idea to implement), or suicide. I think I would be in better spirits if it was I who had the terminal illness, because at least life would carry on without me, but I find it so difficult to deal with the possibility that the world itself is only getting worse.

The really aggravating part is that everyone else around me is carrying on like everything is normal and society hasn't deteriorated considerably in my lifetime. I feel like I am insane for even noticing or caring about these issues because seemingly nobody else around me does. I do not know how to handle these feelings.

Thank you for reading.
 
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This captures exactly how I feel about the future. It feels like the world is rotting. Climate change, the current state of art, economics- all of it just fills me with despair. I'm trying to get better, but it's hard when the world has a big sign in neon lights that says "WE ARE DYING" or whatever.
 
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FawnSong

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This captures exactly how I feel about the future. It feels like the world is rotting. Climate change, the current state of art, economics- all of it just fills me with despair. I'm trying to get better, but it's hard when the world has a big sign in neon lights that says "WE ARE DYING" or whatever.
Yes, there are many signs that the world is circling the drain. It frustrates me when people talk about 'things being really difficult at the moment' as though this is a passing event and things will eventually improve. I can't even be angry with the people saying these things because for the majority of human history, they would have been correct. Economic downturns and conflicts are nasty, but they will eventually pass. The same cannot be said for contemporary issues. I used to study history and I don't think there is much historical precedence for global climate changes or mass job redundancies. Even the issues that are common throughout history are different because they are now global in scale. I don't think there are very many countries which are 'doing better' than they were thirty odd years ago (I know some poorer countries have experienced a rise in living standards, although I am a westerner so I don't know as much about them).

It makes me wonder how we should spend our lives given the social contract and 'expected life path' are both broken.
 
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I don't know which country you're from, but the Western bloc is evidently taking a peculiar turn, where capitalism absorbs anything that can be commodified—and nowadays, that even extends to romantic relationships.

For some time now—ever since my cat Louise died—I've had the feeling that something has ended, or that something is about to end. And I'm not specifically talking about my life in terms of suicide, but rather as if life itself had entered that phase you describe where everything begins to slide into a certain state of decline.

I don't have a job, nor am I occupied with anything these days—I'm a "NEET"—so things are a bit more complicated. While I used to dream of having a job, starting a family, and doing things, I don't feel that same motivation anymore; the world doesn't seem appealing enough for me to jump in and say, "Oh, sure, I want to live every day to the fullest." To be honest, things like wars, high prices, fleeting relationships, and loneliness—among so many other issues—make the world seem rather ugly to me, like a "poorly made video game" that isn't worth continuing to play.
 
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i've heard that the cycles of society being crappy or good kind of generally work in about 80-year cycles, but so if that is true then this crap we are living through now shouldn't be permanent for ever..

but yeah i believe we are still in a type of dark age.. we have cute little cell-phones and cute technology but it doesn't mean we as a whole have done critical thinking on what we as humans here are trying to do as a whole.. every one is playing king of the hill and trying to win for them selves and push every one else off..

the jobs and economy stuff you mentioned has to do with some thing called technological unemployment, and it has been happening for decades (or centuries depending on how you define it).. technolgy serves the purpose as a tool of trying to accomplish some thing easier with less work required from the actual human.. and every company tries to persue more and more automation because it saves them money, either in the form of making their workers more efficient so they don't have to pay their workers to work as long to get the same amount of work accomplished, or replacing the human completely as the human isn't even needed for that position at all any more because a machine/system can do it now..

in a perfect utopian society techonological advancement should progressively help the world to become a better place because all humans would benefit from it.. but in our actual world what happens 99% of the time is that companies that adopt more technology end up using the extra money saved for more profits instead of trickling down the efficiences in to helping humans in the form of things like lower prices or better services or even making some things free..

technological unemployment (in my opinion) is the single biggest factor for the reason that the economy keeps getting worse and never gets better, and why jobs are more scarce and not paying very well.. it's because it's an employer's market.. companies can be picky because the demand of people looking for jobs far out-weighs the supply of jobs actually still available to any one..

AI is just an other form of automation, but yeah AI is just accelerating things even more to the point where there will hardly be any jobs left for humans to have to do.. in fact, some people think this sounds crazy right now but, i believe we might even see things in the future like (for example) plumbing robots; where you call a plumbing company and they have a robot come out that uses AI and cameras to try to identify the problem and come up with a fix and try to fix it its self.. we can already aim a camera at some thing and do a live streaming video feed and AI can identify what it is it is looking at and maybe what you need to fix it; all it needs now is just a robot body to be able to do the fixes its self.. and even if there are still human options for things like plumbing they might be more expensive and rarer, which means there will still be fewer jobs.. there are a lot of AI nerds excited about how far they can push these advancements, so people are always going to be working on this stuff until robots can literally do 99% of all jobs for us, and then what the heck do we do?..

which is why eventually we are going to need some form of universal income.. the technological unemployment is going to continue until society reaches a breaking point and realizes we can't continue like this, and it is going to be a VERY painful transition.. it is going to be a huge awakening for society to realize as a whole that we have entered in to a type of world where we don't actually require humans to have to do any of our tasks any more to be able to complete those tasks.. any thing that a human could do a robot/machine/AI can do better eventually, except maybe make high-level decisions but we don't want AI making huge decisions like that any way..

so unfortunately the people currently living in this current time period are in an pretty difficult arc where we are stuck here in a place where jobs are drying up but before the time where the world realizes that universal income of some sort is needed.. it's going to be a tough and long process and i don't know how many more decades it will take before places start to implement universal income, but the fact that you even are starting to see universal income mentioned more and more is because some people are already realizing that that is where things are heading..
 
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The human race peaked in the 80s and 90s. It will die a slow dystopian death now.
 
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The world is going through some insane changes right now, and not everybody is going to make it.
 
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This also applies to companies. New building constructions are ubiquitous in how ugly and cheaply made they are, and yet they are some of the most expensive houses ever. Absolutely no attempt is made to have these buildings blend in with existing structures (I live in a place with lots of historical buildings) and they are invariably cluttered with the generic 'minimalist' beige/ grey/ white aesthetic that I have come to loathe. It's the equivalent of living inside a wafer. This aesthetic choice has bled into many of the franchises and eateries in the area; all share the same inoffensive colour scheme and have replaced their formerly comfortable chairs with cheap, ugly, and uncomfortable plastic that scream 'pay and get out'.
I fucking hate the landlord special, everything white bullshit. Your mind needs color to survive.
 
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FawnSong

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i've heard that the cycles of society being crappy or good kind of generally work in about 80-year cycles, but so if that is true then this crap we are living through now shouldn't be permanent for ever..

but yeah i believe we are still in a type of dark age.. we have cute little cell-phones and cute technology but it doesn't mean we as a whole have done critical thinking on what we as humans here are trying to do as a whole.. every one is playing king of the hill and trying to win for them selves and push every one else off..

the jobs and economy stuff you mentioned has to do with some thing called technological unemployment, and it has been happening for decades (or centuries depending on how you define it).. technolgy serves the purpose as a tool of trying to accomplish some thing easier with less work required from the actual human.. and every company tries to persue more and more automation because it saves them money, either in the form of making their workers more efficient so they don't have to pay their workers to work as long to get the same amount of work accomplished, or replacing the human completely as the human isn't even needed for that position at all any more because a machine/system can do it now..

in a perfect utopian society techonological advancement should progressively help the world to become a better place because all humans would benefit from it.. but in our actual world what happens 99% of the time is that companies that adopt more technology end up using the extra money saved for more profits instead of trickling down the efficiences in to helping humans in the form of things like lower prices or better services or even making some things free..

technological unemployment (in my opinion) is the single biggest factor for the reason that the economy keeps getting worse and never gets better, and why jobs are more scarce and not paying very well.. it's because it's an employer's market.. companies can be picky because the demand of people looking for jobs far out-weighs the supply of jobs actually still available to any one..

AI is just an other form of automation, but yeah AI is just accelerating things even more to the point where there will hardly be any jobs left for humans to have to do.. in fact, some people think this sounds crazy right now but, i believe we might even see things in the future like (for example) plumbing robots; where you call a plumbing company and they have a robot come out that uses AI and cameras to try to identify the problem and come up with a fix and try to fix it its self.. we can already aim a camera at some thing and do a live streaming video feed and AI can identify what it is it is looking at and maybe what you need to fix it; all it needs now is just a robot body to be able to do the fixes its self.. and even if there are still human options for things like plumbing they might be more expensive and rarer, which means there will still be fewer jobs.. there are a lot of AI nerds excited about how far they can push these advancements, so people are always going to be working on this stuff until robots can literally do 99% of all jobs for us, and then what the heck do we do?..

which is why eventually we are going to need some form of universal income.. the technological unemployment is going to continue until society reaches a breaking point and realizes we can't continue like this, and it is going to be a VERY painful transition.. it is going to be a huge awakening for society to realize as a whole that we have entered in to a type of world where we don't actually require humans to have to do any of our tasks any more to be able to complete those tasks.. any thing that a human could do a robot/machine/AI can do better eventually, except maybe make high-level decisions but we don't want AI making huge decisions like that any way..

so unfortunately the people currently living in this current time period are in an pretty difficult arc where we are stuck here in a place where jobs are drying up but before the time where the world realizes that universal income of some sort is needed.. it's going to be a tough and long process and i don't know how many more decades it will take before places start to implement universal income, but the fact that you even are starting to see universal income mentioned more and more is because some people are already realizing that that is where things are heading..

I think such theories refer to more modern societies, right? Where places are industrialised and people have more freedoms/ rights on the whole. I would imagine that such theories would run into problems when applied to more authoritarian cultures (and I do think western countries are becoming technologically authoritarian) or pre-modern times, but I could be off base there. I agree with you that humanity as a whole has made absolutely no plan whatsoever for figuring out what we are doing or what the point of all this 'wonderful' 'progress' is. Everyone is just fulfilling their assigned roles and living their lives and is not thinking ahead at all.

It is very true that technology is a major contributor to the declining economy and worsening employment situation. There have been times in history where the economy has waxed and waned, but it is also worth noting that not only are jobs declining in number and quality, but the number of people competing for these jobs has jumped exponentially. I don't think 8-9 billion people will ever be a sustainable number for Earth to host, honestly.

We will definitely see plumbing robots. Right now, I see 'join the trades' being pushed in the news and since I possess basic pattern recognition, I am reminded of a decade ago where 'join the programmers' was the dominant message. It is obvious that this messaging will encourage a tsunami of people to overwhelm the trades, drive down prices, and ramp up competition. You know the situation is bad when trades (which famously wreck your body) are being touted as a great opportunity.

When I said that I don't think UBI is a good idea, I don't mean that I think unemployed people should just go fuck themselves or that they should starve or that you are wrong in noting that some system will need to be implemented to stop civil unrest. The current welfare system that many western countries have is, in my opinion, a prototype of UBI. But I don't think anyone will look at the current outcomes of the welfare system and say they are a good thing. A lot of the people I know on welfare are not living any sort of utopian existence. They are quite miserable (I speculate that having some kind of gainful, fulfilling employment or vocation or calling is good for the human soul, but we probably both know a lot of the remaining jobs are absolutely not filling that need). In the best case scenario, UBI means more people will be dragged down into the 'welfare state'. Worst case scenario, the government/ corporations/ whoever is paying for UBI suddenly gain the power of life and death over vast swathes of the population. They will have the unilateral power to cut off your support if you step out of line. And you are not needed for the system to keep functioning in any way, so there is no reason they would not abuse this power. As much as working sucks, at least we currently have SOME ability to work towards a new job or training or whatever. UBI would result in a bunch of people who would be destined never to get out of their situation. I find that quite sobering as a potential future.

That said, I don't think it's anywhere near guaranteed at the moment that UBI will be implemented. I know they are trialling it in some places though so I could be wrong.

I don't know which country you're from, but the Western bloc is evidently taking a peculiar turn, where capitalism absorbs anything that can be commodified—and nowadays, that even extends to romantic relationships.

For some time now—ever since my cat Louise died—I've had the feeling that something has ended, or that something is about to end. And I'm not specifically talking about my life in terms of suicide, but rather as if life itself had entered that phase you describe where everything begins to slide into a certain state of decline.

I don't have a job, nor am I occupied with anything these days—I'm a "NEET"—so things are a bit more complicated. While I used to dream of having a job, starting a family, and doing things, I don't feel that same motivation anymore; the world doesn't seem appealing enough for me to jump in and say, "Oh, sure, I want to live every day to the fullest." To be honest, things like wars, high prices, fleeting relationships, and loneliness—among so many other issues—make the world seem rather ugly to me, like a "poorly made video game" that isn't worth continuing to play.

If the world is a game, it's poorly balanced and buggy. Your outcomes are heavily decided by your starting locations and stats, and your 'life objectives' are glitched so increasing numbers of people can't complete them.
I fucking hate the landlord special, everything white bullshit. Your mind needs color to survive.
I have lived in rented accommodation for years and find it so tedious. It's a constant reminder that everything is being designed to appeal to the widest audience possible so as to maximise the amount of money made. Even when I was thinking about design ideas for my current (unfurnished) place, multiple people in my life told me 'oh, you'd best go for white this and white that to maximise appeal for when you move out' as if I should consider the maximum return on my investment with every purchase I make (a mentality I hate). None of them considered the fact that I might want to, you know, live in this place in the meantime.
 
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Apologies for the meandering nature of this post. I am trying to get out a lot of unconnected thoughts at once.

I would like to establish expectations by saying I am not actively suicidal and am not possessed by an overwhelming urge to die. But I am filled with despair and anticipatory grief whenever I step outside my home and it makes me think killing myself would be, in some ways, more merciful than continuing to watch all the beautiful things in the world wither and die.

I moved to my current location a decade ago, give or take a few years. It used to be a nice place to live and many could argue it is still better than other locations. But everywhere I go, there is decay and decline. There is more graffiti, more petty crime such as stealing which has led to the introduction of those plastic 'anti theft' devices in supermarkets, more litter, more poverty, more food banks, more open displays of despair, etc.

This also applies to companies. New building constructions are ubiquitous in how ugly and cheaply made they are, and yet they are some of the most expensive houses ever. Absolutely no attempt is made to have these buildings blend in with existing structures (I live in a place with lots of historical buildings) and they are invariably cluttered with the generic 'minimalist' beige/ grey/ white aesthetic that I have come to loathe. It's the equivalent of living inside a wafer. This aesthetic choice has bled into many of the franchises and eateries in the area; all share the same inoffensive colour scheme and have replaced their formerly comfortable chairs with cheap, ugly, and uncomfortable plastic that scream 'pay and get out'. I no longer enjoy window shopping or spending an afternoon in a cafe because most of them are so 'samey' and implicitly hostile now.

To get away from such depressing surroundings, I like to go hiking or spend time in nature with no people around. I am someone who values the environment, but I find that even going to various nature parks or hiking areas can bring out these feelings of anticipatory loss and sadness. Certain routes are being destroyed due to coastal erosion, certain monuments or landmarks will not be there in a few decades, the threat of climate change means many animal and bird and insect species native to this area will struggle or become extinct, etc. I also have to take care to avoid popular routes because of overcrowding and the knowledge that I would be further contributing to the decline of that area if I chose to visit.

Part of me wants to go out and enjoy things while they still exist. Another part just wants to stay at home so I don't have to deal with the strong negative emotions that seeing these social changes brings out in me. Even if you are someone who shuns the outside world to stay online, I've noticed more and more paywalls are being put up in areas that were once free to access. Various news sites or websites, apps, the constant shoving of subscriptions into everything, the increasing inability for things to exist without the creator trying to monetise it, etc (for the record, I do not blame people for trying to make more money in this increasingly difficult living environment. I just find it depressing). Everything is more expensive and you get far less for your money than you once did.

Speaking of finances, it is also increasingly difficult to get and maintain a job. I really feel for teenagers and young people graduating into this utterly atrocious job market—all the entry level grad jobs, the part time retail positions, the warehouse jobs, the ones people are 'supposed' to do for a few years and then move on from, have effectively vanished in my area. I work in a field which was once considered 'recession proof' and 'a job for life' but that all changed a few months after I entered this field, and I'm one of the lucky ones because I got a job whilst many of my fellow graduates really struggled. But even that is cold comfort, for I work in a niche field with few opportunities to transfer these skills elsewhere and I genuinely think I would be screwed if I was laid off or fired. I have no emotional or support network whatsoever so this is a very legitimate concern.

When all these things are taken together (and I haven't even touched upon other threats such as AI), I really struggle to see myself surviving long enough to die of natural causes. It feels like my future will feature me dying of climate change induced issues (such as heatstroke), war (over basic things like food and water which are becoming increasingly expensive), tropical illnesses/ antibiotic-resistant bugs, starvation (from being unemployed with no safety net because I do not believe UBI will ever be established or would even be a good idea to implement), or suicide. I think I would be in better spirits if it was I who had the terminal illness, because at least life would carry on without me, but I find it so difficult to deal with the possibility that the world itself is only getting worse.

The really aggravating part is that everyone else around me is carrying on like everything is normal and society hasn't deteriorated considerably in my lifetime. I feel like I am insane for even noticing or caring about these issues because seemingly nobody else around me does. I do not know how to handle these feelings.

Thank you for reading.
yeah, I can definitely relate to this feeling. the state of the world makes it really hard for me to understand normal people's thinking process sometimes. y'all are making plans for the future? what future? lol

every time I make any steps towards recovery I am reminded of just how terrible the world is getting--we are trapped in the depths of late-stage capitalism with seemingly no way out of it, doomed to watch everything grow more soulless and more profit be extracted just for the sake of it, the planet be damned. i wish i could channel this anger and sadness towards activism or working on making the world a better place, but it genuinely feels futile. i am barely keeping myself afloat as it is

i find myself awake late at night genuinely terrified of everything the future might hold for us. the amount of suffering we are already witnessing is immense, with so much more death and tragedy to come. i do not know how anyone has it in themselves to stay hopeful without deluding themselves.

overall, i definitely feel you on every single point. since the world is fucked i am just trying to focus on doing whatever little things are left that bring me joy. also in a way the fact that I could technically ctb at any time (SI is a bitch though) brings me a lot of peace. if a world catastrophe strikes that would guarantee me a lot of misery i could always take myself out of it. this may be a bit morbid but it helps to remind me that im not trapped here and ultimately still have some semblance of control. though it does fill me with a lot of sadness thinking about what humanity could have been in some ideal utopian world. it doesn't even have to be utopian--even a few seemingly small changes could allieviate suffering for so many people. i have read "Less is More" by Jason Hickel recently and it really opened my eyes on how easily we'd be able to prevent a climate catastrophe if only we stopped prioritizing infinite growth over everything else. capitalism breeds growth just for the sake of it, a cancerous tumor

i think life could have been beautiful and enjoyable but our species had irreversibly fucked everything up for themselves. but yeah, you are definitely not alone in feeling this way 🖤
 
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yeah, I can definitely relate to this feeling. the state of the world makes it really hard for me to understand normal people's thinking process sometimes. y'all are making plans for the future? what future? lol
This is how I feel. People say I have my whole life ahead of me. Meanwhile I feel I'll be dead in the next 10-20 years. I see people around me talking about marriage and buying houses and, get this, having children. I don't understand how anyone looks at the world and concludes bringing children into this mess is a good idea. Intellectually, I know this is because humans have a strong desire to procreate, etc etc, but it still seems insane to me. I think many people are also better at 'deluding themselves' and that ability is a trait that would allow people to continue to survive and pass on their genes. We are the weird ones for not having this ability to the same extent.
every time I make any steps towards recovery I am reminded of just how terrible the world is getting--we are trapped in the depths of late-stage capitalism with seemingly no way out of it, doomed to watch everything grow more soulless and more profit be extracted just for the sake of it, the planet be damned. i wish i could channel this anger and sadness towards activism or working on making the world a better place, but it genuinely feels futile. i am barely keeping myself afloat as it is
Soulless is an appropriate word for it. Art has become more auto tuned, more generated, more mechanical. Charities and third sectors have become more corporate (I used to volunteer for one but eventually stopped as I felt it was losing its way and was no longer aligning with my values). This bleeds over into the people you'll encounter. I have definitely noticed a difference in how older generations behave vs people who have spent a lot of their formative years on social media. Even though older generations are also addicted to this stuff, they generally have more interesting life experiences and had better opportunities to live life, etc, which I think younger people don't really have nowadays due to expenses, increasing surveillance, etc.
i find myself awake late at night genuinely terrified of everything the future might hold for us. the amount of suffering we are already witnessing is immense, with so much more death and tragedy to come. i do not know how anyone has it in themselves to stay hopeful without deluding themselves.
I can't offer any help in this regard, but I have a good understanding of how you feel. I also hold a lot of fear towards the future and have responded to it by trying to get stuff I want done NOW and not thinking about preparing for old age because tomorrow cannot be guaranteed and the future will suck. I think some 'hopeful people' are so busy and caught up in their own affairs (work, children, household, aging parents, extracurriculars, etc) that they don't have the time or inclination to ruminate about how screwed we all are.
overall, i definitely feel you on every single point. since the world is fucked i am just trying to focus on doing whatever little things are left that bring me joy. also in a way the fact that I could technically ctb at any time (SI is a bitch though) brings me a lot of peace. if a world catastrophe strikes that would guarantee me a lot of misery i could always take myself out of it. this may be a bit morbid but it helps to remind me that im not trapped here and ultimately still have some semblance of control. though it does fill me with a lot of sadness thinking about what humanity could have been in some ideal utopian world. it doesn't even have to be utopian--even a few seemingly small changes could allieviate suffering for so many people. i have read "Less is More" by Jason Hickel recently and it really opened my eyes on how easily we'd be able to prevent a climate catastrophe if only we stopped prioritizing infinite growth over everything else. capitalism breeds growth just for the sake of it, a cancerous tumor

i think life could have been beautiful and enjoyable but our species had irreversibly fucked everything up for themselves. but yeah, you are definitely not alone in feeling this way 🖤
I don't think that is morbid. People act like suppressing and hiding suicidal thoughts is better because they 'cannot be seen' but this makes it more likely for people to attempt so it is counterproductive. Accepting suicidal thoughts is, in many cases, a decent way to mitigate the risk of actually killing yourself on impulse. They are a type of 'power fantasy'. You tell yourself your current problems are not so bad because hey, you can kill yourself. You have the power to take away your life at any time, so you don't need to rush into it, and very few situations can take that power away from you. Or that is what I have concluded from my own life. I do not mean to speak on your behalf as your experiences will be different (and I know what I say won't apply to people with certain physical or mental conditions that make their life hellish).

In any case, I thank you for your kind words and wish you peace :)
 
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HNR_

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This, 100%

What grinds my gears is that, when you've understood that, along with other issues this world has, and even hear experts in their respective fields agree that things are legit getting worse (historians talking about politics/social injustice, economists etc) across western Europe, if you tell someone that you can't picture yourself living in such a fucked up world that'll only get worse as we grow old, you're told that it's not true or that things'll magically get better or even that it used to be even worse 40 years ago

Even a friend of mine handwaved all the issues I told them I had with the world a few months ago
Hell, that even happen here a few days ago, someone replied to my profile status talking about how they're temporary or don't exist or whatever nonsense
 
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softfur

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Mar 22, 2026
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This also applies to companies. New building constructions are ubiquitous in how ugly and cheaply made they are, and yet they are some of the most expensive houses ever. Absolutely no attempt is made to have these buildings blend in with existing structures (I live in a place with lots of historical buildings) and they are invariably cluttered with the generic 'minimalist' beige/ grey/ white aesthetic that I have come to loathe. It's the equivalent of living inside a wafer. This aesthetic choice has bled into many of the franchises and eateries in the area; all share the same inoffensive colour scheme and have replaced their formerly comfortable chairs with cheap, ugly, and uncomfortable plastic that scream 'pay and get out'. I no longer enjoy window shopping or spending an afternoon in a cafe because most of them are so 'samey' and implicitly hostile now.
i walked through a barnes and nobles a while back that was in the process of remodeling, demodeling, like all the others. spending money to destroy anything nice that still stands. "aren't we lucky to get to watch the world around us dying?"
previous generations got to watch it be built up. we get to watch it die, and those who come after us will know a dead world. there's nothing funny to say about it beauty is now a pest
 
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Apologies for the meandering nature of this post. I am trying to get out a lot of unconnected thoughts at once.

I would like to establish expectations by saying I am not actively suicidal and am not possessed by an overwhelming urge to die. But I am filled with despair and anticipatory grief whenever I step outside my home and it makes me think killing myself would be, in some ways, more merciful than continuing to watch all the beautiful things in the world wither and die.

I moved to my current location a decade ago, give or take a few years. It used to be a nice place to live and many could argue it is still better than other locations. But everywhere I go, there is decay and decline. There is more graffiti, more petty crime such as stealing which has led to the introduction of those plastic 'anti theft' devices in supermarkets, more litter, more poverty, more food banks, more open displays of despair, etc.

This also applies to companies. New building constructions are ubiquitous in how ugly and cheaply made they are, and yet they are some of the most expensive houses ever. Absolutely no attempt is made to have these buildings blend in with existing structures (I live in a place with lots of historical buildings) and they are invariably cluttered with the generic 'minimalist' beige/ grey/ white aesthetic that I have come to loathe. It's the equivalent of living inside a wafer. This aesthetic choice has bled into many of the franchises and eateries in the area; all share the same inoffensive colour scheme and have replaced their formerly comfortable chairs with cheap, ugly, and uncomfortable plastic that scream 'pay and get out'. I no longer enjoy window shopping or spending an afternoon in a cafe because most of them are so 'samey' and implicitly hostile now.

To get away from such depressing surroundings, I like to go hiking or spend time in nature with no people around. I am someone who values the environment, but I find that even going to various nature parks or hiking areas can bring out these feelings of anticipatory loss and sadness. Certain routes are being destroyed due to coastal erosion, certain monuments or landmarks will not be there in a few decades, the threat of climate change means many animal and bird and insect species native to this area will struggle or become extinct, etc. I also have to take care to avoid popular routes because of overcrowding and the knowledge that I would be further contributing to the decline of that area if I chose to visit.

Part of me wants to go out and enjoy things while they still exist. Another part just wants to stay at home so I don't have to deal with the strong negative emotions that seeing these social changes brings out in me. Even if you are someone who shuns the outside world to stay online, I've noticed more and more paywalls are being put up in areas that were once free to access. Various news sites or websites, apps, the constant shoving of subscriptions into everything, the increasing inability for things to exist without the creator trying to monetise it, etc (for the record, I do not blame people for trying to make more money in this increasingly difficult living environment. I just find it depressing). Everything is more expensive and you get far less for your money than you once did.

Speaking of finances, it is also increasingly difficult to get and maintain a job. I really feel for teenagers and young people graduating into this utterly atrocious job market—all the entry level grad jobs, the part time retail positions, the warehouse jobs, the ones people are 'supposed' to do for a few years and then move on from, have effectively vanished in my area. I work in a field which was once considered 'recession proof' and 'a job for life' but that all changed a few months after I entered this field, and I'm one of the lucky ones because I got a job whilst many of my fellow graduates really struggled. But even that is cold comfort, for I work in a niche field with few opportunities to transfer these skills elsewhere and I genuinely think I would be screwed if I was laid off or fired. I have no emotional or support network whatsoever so this is a very legitimate concern.

When all these things are taken together (and I haven't even touched upon other threats such as AI), I really struggle to see myself surviving long enough to die of natural causes. It feels like my future will feature me dying of climate change induced issues (such as heatstroke), war (over basic things like food and water which are becoming increasingly expensive), tropical illnesses/ antibiotic-resistant bugs, starvation (from being unemployed with no safety net because I do not believe UBI will ever be established or would even be a good idea to implement), or suicide. I think I would be in better spirits if it was I who had the terminal illness, because at least life would carry on without me, but I find it so difficult to deal with the possibility that the world itself is only getting worse.

The really aggravating part is that everyone else around me is carrying on like everything is normal and society hasn't deteriorated considerably in my lifetime. I feel like I am insane for even noticing or caring about these issues because seemingly nobody else around me does. I do not know how to handle these feelings.

Thank you for reading.
i really feel this. the idea of living a long life was respected for good reason up until the 90s. living a long life now in my opinion just seems stupid and forced, even if you had it all. i personally have a really weak heart when it comes to other people, even if i were to be doing great for myself i would still be hurting knowing just what kind of things other people are going through that never did anything wrong in their lives. it makes me wish for human extinction just so we can all be at peace, because it's impossible to lift everyone up at once, but easier to drop everyone altogether
 
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Serena 2026

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Jan 15, 2026
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This captures exactly how I feel about the future. It feels like the world is rotting. Climate change, the current state of art, economics- all of it just fills me with despair. I'm trying to get better, but it's hard when the world has a big sign in neon lights that says "WE ARE DYING" or whatever.
That's exactly the feeling I have!! 🫤
 
limenlux

limenlux

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Jul 12, 2026
191
The world isn't dying; it's being murdered by people who hate us and find our suffering amusing. On a positive note, the established world order is becoming increasingly unstable and they're beginning to flail, so while we may be entering uncharted territory, so are they.
 
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HNR_

Close to a new start...or meet my end
May 21, 2026
195
The world isn't dying; it's being murdered by people who hate us and find our suffering amusing. On a positive note, the established world order is becoming increasingly unstable and they're beginning to flail, so while we may be entering uncharted territory, so are they.
Sadly, some of these won't get to live long enough to suffer the consequences of their actions
Specific politicians for instance, you know the ones
 
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itsgone2

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I agree. Things are objectively getting worse. It that life was ever easy but getting a job, affording a home, etc is ending. Many reasons why but what's the difference. I see no reason to continue.
 
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Misery99

Misery99

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Yes I feel that as well. Everything in the world is going downhill. The government, society and the people are becoming more and more self-centered and hateful
 

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