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anonymousfox

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Apr 8, 2026
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Hello everyone, this is my first post here. I've been lurking in this forum for a while, but I've finally decided to introduce myself and ask a question. I have been frustrated with reality for a long time. I have many reasons, but I'll list the ones that jump out at me here. The state of the world, the sheer amount of suffering, the feeling that nothing meaningful ever changes despite everything constantly moving around us. On a personal level, I do not feel at home in my body, and I've always felt alienated from everyone else. It's hard to explain exactly what I mean by that, but I've always felt like I was processing things in a different way, and like I was watching another species living their lives while I stood on the sidelines. I know that sounds strange, but I imagine a few of you feel the same way.

Anyway, I am also an optimist about the far future. I believe that, given enough time, humanity has the potential to overcome the constraints that translate into the experiences I have outlined above. I am generally a self-preservative person, but I have gotten to the point where I would much rather end my experience than continue enduring this, day after day. So I have been looking into cryonics. I would like to undergo elective cryonic preservation, freezing myself right now at the highest quality possible. This would allow me to stop my current experience and be revived if the future I envision takes shape. If humanity ends up blowing itself up or backsliding into a technological dark age, well, I won't have to be around for it. Unfortunately, it seems like none of the current cryonics providers have an avenue for elective cryopreservation. None of the MAID providers - not even the Swiss ones - offer euthenasia for healthy people in their twenties, and apparently in the jurisdictions of all the major cryonics providers, an autopsy has to be performed after a suicide, which would render the cryonic preservation ineffective.

I was wondering if anyone knows of an alternative route or loophole that would allow me to be cryogenically frozen?
 
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Nov 18, 2024
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I personally think that if elective cryo preservation became an option, this is what would happen:

cryogenics.png


After all, someone has to do the work of changing the world for the better...
 
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anonymousfox

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Apr 8, 2026
10
I personally think that if elective cryo preservation became an option, this is what would happen:

cryogenics.png


After all, someone has to do the work of changing the world for the better...
Haha, wow, xkcd really does have a comic for everything. I feel called out - I am, perhaps predictably, an engineer excited about the future! And yeah, I can see how you'd think that. But honestly I don't think THAT many people would take advantage of it. Most people have things that motivate them to stick around in the present.
 
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hdead

Arcanist
Jun 2, 2026
470
Hello everyone, this is my first post here. I've been lurking in this forum for a while, but I've finally decided to introduce myself and ask a question. I have been frustrated with reality for a long time. I have many reasons, but I'll list the ones that jump out at me here. The state of the world, the sheer amount of suffering, the feeling that nothing meaningful ever changes despite everything constantly moving around us. On a personal level, I do not feel at home in my body, and I've always felt alienated from everyone else. It's hard to explain exactly what I mean by that, but I've always felt like I was processing things in a different way, and like I was watching another species living their lives while I stood on the sidelines. I know that sounds strange, but I imagine a few of you feel the same way.

Anyway, I am also an optimist about the far future. I believe that, given enough time, humanity has the potential to overcome the constraints that translate into the experiences I have outlined above. I am generally a self-preservative person, but I have gotten to the point where I would much rather end my experience than continue enduring this, day after day. So I have been looking into cryonics. I would like to undergo elective cryonic preservation, freezing myself right now at the highest quality possible. This would allow me to stop my current experience and be revived if the future I envision takes shape. If humanity ends up blowing itself up or backsliding into a technological dark age, well, I won't have to be around for it. Unfortunately, it seems like none of the current cryonics providers have an avenue for elective cryopreservation. None of the MAID providers - not even the Swiss ones - offer euthenasia for healthy people in their twenties, and apparently in the jurisdictions of all the major cryonics providers, an autopsy has to be performed after a suicide, which would render the cryonic preservation ineffective.

I was wondering if anyone knows of an alternative route or loophole that would allow me to be cryogenically frozen?
I'd place my bets on elective reincarnation... 😬
 
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hdead

Arcanist
Jun 2, 2026
470
What do you mean by that?
It was meant as a joke.

What I tried to elude to is after you CTB, or die from any other potential cause, you'd get the choice to reincarnate in a timeline where circumstances are more suitable for you.
 
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anonymousfox

Member
Apr 8, 2026
10
It was meant as a joke.

What I tried to elude to is after you CTB, or die from any other potential cause, you'd get the choice to reincarnate in a timeline where circumstances are more suitable for you.
Oh hahaha XD sorry, I thought you were being serious. I certainly wish that was the case!
 
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hdead

Arcanist
Jun 2, 2026
470
Oh hahaha XD sorry, I thought you were being serious. I certainly wish that was the case!
I'll let you know when I find out! That is, if I can. 🤣

Anyway; wanted to say I deeply relate to the feeling like an alien, processing differently etc.

As much as I tried to function like 'the others' (not meant in a derogatory sense), I'd feel left out every time. There comes a time when you just go without being noticed.
 
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anonymousfox

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Apr 8, 2026
10
I'll let you know when I find out! That is, if I can. 🤣

Anyway; wanted to say I deeply relate to the feeling like an alien, processing differently etc.

As much as I tried to function like 'the others' (not meant in a derogatory sense), I'd feel left out every time. There comes a time when you just go without being noticed.
Thank you, yes, that is exactly the feeling. I really appreciate it :heart:
 
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plskilme

Member
Jul 8, 2026
52
I want to be cryogenically frozen myself. I'm in my 20's like you are. I want to be frozen for about 1000 years or until the world isnt shit anymore (whatever comes first). Been watching a lot of futurama lately and its had me thinking about things...
 
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anonymousfox

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Apr 8, 2026
10
I want to be cryogenically frozen myself. I'm in my 20's like you are. I want to be frozen for about 1000 years or until the world isnt shit anymore (whatever comes first). Been watching a lot of futurama lately and its had me thinking about things...
Yes! I genuinely think a large part of why people on this forum feel this way is that we happen to be born in a really terrible reality at a really terrible time. Better than the middle ages, sure, but we're still in the first 117 billion humans out of potentially quintillions+. The universe certainly doesn't care about us, and our species is still figuring out how to exist in a reality that does not care whether we exist. Many people haven't even admitted that to themselves yet (religious people, for instance). The fact that a star burning hydrogen into helium and a child dying of starvation are, from the perspective of physics, events of identical moral significance is a difficult thing to reckon with. Our planet is stricken with scarcity, poverty, disease, war, famine, forced labor, corruption, evil, among other things that future technology could and likely will engineer out. We were born at a time that imprisons us in conditions that are slowly getting worse, while allowing us to be very aware of how good things could be and likely will be in the far future. It is a genuinely terrible period to be alive.

Anyway, my thoughts aside, have you found any loopholes that allow for elective cryopreservation? I'd love to hear if you have!
 
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plskilme

Member
Jul 8, 2026
52
Yes! I genuinely think a large part of why people on this forum feel this way is that we happen to be born in a really terrible reality at a really terrible time. Better than the middle ages, sure, but we're still in the first 117 billion humans out of potentially quintillions+. The universe certainly doesn't care about us, and our species is still figuring out how to exist in a reality that does not care whether we exist. Many people haven't even admitted that to themselves yet (religious people, for instance). The fact that a star burning hydrogen into helium and a child dying of starvation are, from the perspective of physics, events of identical moral significance is a difficult thing to reckon with. Our planet is stricken with scarcity, poverty, disease, war, famine, forced labor, corruption, evil, among other things that future technology could and likely will engineer out. We were born at a time that imprisons us in conditions that are slowly getting worse, while allowing us to be very aware of how good things could be and likely will be in the far future. It is a genuinely terrible period to be alive.

Anyway, my thoughts aside, have you found any loopholes that allow for elective cryopreservation? I'd love to hear if you have!
I agree, and I have not found any loopholes sadly. If I find any, I will let you know. I hope you do the same if you find any. The only "loophole" I can find is paying like $60k (USD). BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY....
 
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anonymousfox

Member
Apr 8, 2026
10
I agree, and I have not found any loopholes sadly. If I find any, I will let you know. I hope you do the same if you find any. The only "loophole" I can find is paying like $60k (USD). BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY....
Thank you so much, I will definitely let you know! I have $60k at the moment, would you mind letting me know what the loophole is?
 
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plskilme

Member
Jul 8, 2026
52
Thank you so much, I will definitely let you know! I have $60k at the moment, would you mind letting me know what the loophole is?
I believe you can pay them to freeze you. I wish I had a loophole so I could get frozen myself...
 
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anonymousfox

Member
Apr 8, 2026
10
I believe you can pay them to freeze you. I wish I had a loophole so I could get frozen myself...
Ah, I've looked into this with several organizations: the Cryonics Institute, Tomorrow Bio, Alcor, and KrioRus. Currently, the legal landscape prevents elective living cryopreservation, meaning people have to wait until legal death occurs before they can be frozen. Unfortunately, suicides trigger autopsies, which render the cryonics process ineffective. :(
 
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